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16 hours ago, SpagMasterSwift said:

The 3 episode arcs are a bit f'ed up now right?

 

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Episodes 1-3 Leaving Ferrix arc

Episodes 4-6 The Heist arc

Episodes 7 Stand alone return to Ferrix

Episodes 8-10 Prison arc?

Episodes 11-12 AMAZING SEASON FINALE!!!!111SYRILGETSDATASS!!!

 

 

11 & 12 are directed by the same person as episode 7, so it's possible it could be seen as a three episode arc, rudely interrupted by a lengthy stay in prison.  However, 11 & 12 are written by Tony Gilroy himself, whose only other episodes so far were 1-3, and 7 was written by someone else, so my bet would actually be it'll be taking us full circle and closing out the Ferrix story with an uprising of sorts there.

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1 hour ago, Sixkiller said:

 

11 & 12 are directed by the same person as episode 7, so it's possible it could be seen as a three episode arc, rudely interrupted by a lengthy stay in prison.  However, 11 & 12 are written by Tony Gilroy himself, whose only other episodes so far were 1-3, and 7 was written by someone else, so my bet would actually be it'll be taking us full circle and closing out the Ferrix story with an uprising of sorts there.

 

Nah, Ferrix is going to get flattened, crushed and completely subjugated. It'll end on that jumped-up incel twat confused why he's being made to suffer too. It's only going to get darker to make Andor who he becomes. 

 

On that note, I've been having some mental health bother and I really shouldn't be watching this. Episode 8 nearly broke me. But it's too good and I can't help myself. 

(weirdly I felt even more sad and trapped by that short Jedi series)

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52 minutes ago, AK Bell said:

 

Nah, Ferrix is going to get flattened, crushed and completely subjugated. It'll end on that jumped-up incel twat confused why he's being made to suffer too. It's only going to get darker to make Andor who he becomes. 


Syril? He’s not from Ferrix is he? I think he’s living with his mum on Coruscant now.

 

I’m guessing whatever ends up happening to Andor’s mum will be what fully radicalises him.

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16 minutes ago, MrCarrot said:


Syril? He’s not from Ferrix is he? I think he’s living with his mum on Coruscant now.

 

I’m guessing whatever ends up happening to Andor’s mum will be what fully radicalises him.

 

Oh, I'm getting mixed up as I thought that intelligence woman was flitting back and forth. 

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1 hour ago, AK Bell said:

 

Nah, Ferrix is going to get flattened, crushed and completely subjugated. It'll end on that jumped-up incel twat confused why he's being made to suffer too. It's only going to get darker to make Andor who he becomes. 

Oh I didn't mean I thought the uprising would go well for the uprisers, just that there would be one.

 

Any 'happiness' in the season's ending will be that Cassian escapes, likely saving Bix Caleen in the process, escaping to the rebellion to exact his revenge.

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Well Episode 9 was grim. It seems that we've spent forever in the prison without a huge lot of point.

Sure be slow and all, and don't make it too star wars, but have some star wars.

 

It was an unsettling, sometimes nasty, episode that feels like it's getting near some kind of director-led snuff porn.

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I remember thinking during Star Wars: The Last Jedi, when the harsh truths of the military-industrial complex are explained to Finn by Benicio del Toro's arms dealer character, that something had been allowed into Star Wars that was going to change things going forward. This series isn't just peaking through that crack in the door, the door is now completely off the hinges.

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There is a torture device that plays the children's death screams of an alien race, that have been isolated and modified for maximum effect - in Star Wars. It's one of the darkest things I've come across in sci-fi and its in Star Wars. I'm not sure how I feel about it. It's truly horrible of course, but I guess its inclusion excites me too because if this thing can exist then pretty much anything could happen now. I genuinely have no idea where things are going, but if they introduce some hope it's likely to break me like the end of The Shawshank Redemption.

 

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New directors for S2:

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In a conversation with Collider, showrunner Tony Gilroy revealed that the continuation of Andor’s Star Wars story has added three directors to focus on the events that precede Rogue One. The second season will be broken up into episode arcs, he confirmed, adding that duties will be split among Giving Ariel Kleiman (Yellowjackets), Janus Metz (All the Old Knives), and Alonso Ruizpalacios (Outer Range).

 

Not seen any of those shows; any thoughts?

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6 hours ago, Hamus said:

Well Episode 9 was grim. It seems that we've spent forever in the prison without a huge lot of point.

Sure be slow and all, and don't make it too star wars, but have some star wars.

 

It was an unsettling, sometimes nasty, episode that feels like it's getting near some kind of director-led snuff porn.

This feels like a massive overreaction. It's nowhere near snuff porn is it? We've not even seen any graphic injury? It is supposed to be grim and nasty. We are seeing what the Empire is really like. Don't worry - we know they eventually get their comeuppance. 

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Yeah it’s oppressive because it should be oppressive, otherwise what would be the point of a rebellion, and just how far would these oppressive powers go to quell that rebellion? 
 

It is scarily prescient and really taps into the anxiety that I feel from day to day just looking at what is going on in the world around me. 

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18 minutes ago, jonamok said:

His Mum deserves more love. Her volte-face when he announces his promotion was wonderful.


It’s one of the reasons why this is so great, even marginal supporting roles seem to be played by excellent actors, and his mom is one of the best examples.

 

The prison is such a treat for this too.

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I reiterate that this has been the best TV surprise I've had for years. It's absolutely thoroughly marvellous and unlike almost every other TV show I've watched recently has got better with each episode. 

 

I still don't think it feels especially Star Wars but I think that's just a fault in the way I think of it these days. It's strong enough that it has not mattered one bit to me at all. The story is extremely well done and I'm genuinely pleased to have given it a chance. It's a pity they can't now do Rogue One as a new series of this to be honest - I've always thought the film was just too filled with characters and as a result no-one got their chance to shine - especially as the thing seemed to be in such a rush to give 'fans' lots of cute throwbacks to the universe. 

 

But this is great. Absolutely great.

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11 hours ago, Monkeyboy said:

I know this is “dark” Star Wars but scenes of Syril forcing down endless bowls of space cereal in his mum’s kitchen is hilarious.

 

' I put a roof over your head, I make you dinner (pours bowl of cereal out)'

 

She looks like she belongs in the Black Lodge. 

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On 03/11/2022 at 22:23, jonamok said:

The missus is convinced the device they use on Bix is an homage to Kate Bush’s ‘Experiment IV’.

 


She might have a point.

 

This is something I think is very evident in the show:

 

it feels like it's actually written by people who are extremally "well read" when it comes to knowledge of politics, other media, popular culture, art and music.

 

There's the reference you mention which feels almost too perfect not to be intentional, so there's some pop music knowledge there. You've also got the more obvious but lost on younger viewers homage to THX 1138. Then with the bashing saucepan lids stuff on Ferrix you've got reference to The Troubles.

 

It makes a massive difference when something is created by people who are able to draw on so many influences and ideas. It's one of the problems you see in say, videogame narratives, when there's so many examples who's reference only seems to be other videogames. Then something like Immortality comes along and for reviewers it's like, Woah! Films exist!

 

I read somewhere that Akira Kurosawa was once asked something like, what sort of advice he would give to other film makers, and he was just like: "Read books! Lots of books!"

 

And slap in actors like Moxey from Auf Wiedersehen, Pet and you've got a classic show.

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