Assetto Corsa Competizione | Season 14 Round 6 | GT3 Endurance @ Watkins Glen

[Count Buffalos]

I enjoyed that, lucky podium finish

 

What’s the deal with liveries? My car is still grey when it should be green - does the game save the livery that I had at the time of registering or something?

[milko]

interesting, watching the Meers stream for a moment there. If I dared so much as touch some of the kerbs he's happily riding all over, my car went on a bit of "upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!" thing. Wet tyres, wet conditions engine map, high TC, same pressures pretty much. Just Porsche things? There must be a way, and my goodness I will find it. In a hedge somewhere, hopefully.

[Valver]

Highlight video is  done, so here's the link - give it a minute or two to process in HD:

 

Congratulations to @Meers on the win!

 

I think a round of sorry's are in order from me. 

 

First there was a shambolic effort at the final chicane where I rammed @Corranga in the rear and sent us both spinning off.  The replay makes me look like a right n00b.  I waited to make sure you got your place back, but I realise someone else nipped through in the mean time.  I didn't actually have much damage from it - I hope you didn't either.  Later I caught you back up and we had a great battle for 4 or 5 laps - so hopefully you can forgive me!

 

Then I tried to aggressively undertake @milko on  the final corner of one lap.   You left an inviting gap and I figured I'd have a go.  I think in hindsight I was just being sucked into the vortex of danger (https://yousuckatracing.com/2021/04/07/the-vortex-of-danger-is-your-fault/    - so yeah, my bad!  Sorry.

 

 I think you actually came out of that OK-ish, where I span out and lost a bunch of time.  Serves me right.

 

I had another unforced error where I got 2 wheels on the grass in Sector 2 and ended up spinning.  And then sat for what felt like ages at the side of the road waiting for the cars behind me to pass until I could safely re-join.

 

But all that said - I had fun.  I did overtake a bunch of cars.  So my pace wasn't too nasty - and thanks to @milko and his low speed last lap/last corner spin, I managed to finished in 6th, a couple of places higher up than I qualified.  So I think that shows that persistence pays off?

 

 

 

 

[mexos]

17 minutes ago, milko said:

interesting, watching the Meers stream for a moment there. If I dared so much as touch some of the kerbs he's happily riding all over, my car went on a bit of "upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!" thing. Wet tyres, wet conditions engine map, high TC, same pressures pretty much. Just Porsche things? There must be a way, and my goodness I will find it. In a hedge somewhere, hopefully.

 

The BMW was the same, especially the right hander on to the back straight - touching the kerb was insta death but I played with the springs and bumpstop a bit and it totally dialled it out. 

[mexos]

That's 2 out of 3 races the game has done me in. The start penalty drive through at Bathurst and the pitstop here.  What did I do to you?! 😟

[Corranga]

25 minutes ago, Valver said:

First there was a shambolic effort at the final chicane where I rammed @Corranga in the rear and sent us both spinning off.  The replay makes me look like a right n00b.  I waited to make sure you got your place back, but I realise someone else nipped through in the mean time.  I didn't actually have much damage from it - I hope you didn't either.  Later I caught you back up and we had a great battle for 4 or 5 laps - so hopefully you can forgive me!

I think I was a bit early on the brakes which probably didn’t help.  I was a touch apprehensive perhaps as I think on the first lap I was right up behind someone with spray etc, so that was the first time going in alone at pace, and of course the brake markers were gone too.

I didn’t fair quite so well damage wise, about 20 seconds and a car that (to me anyway) would drive straight but didn’t want to turn left as well as it turned right! Only really an issue in the stadium and the Schumacher S mind. I then spun chasing you in the flat out curve on the back straight and touched the wall so eventually had a +25 seconds in my stop, but I hung it out in case it dried later in the race, then of course when I stopped I fell foul to the Dry tyres that a few of us managed, and to add to the injury, after getting the car all the way around without running off, I hit the brakes in the pit lane and the car went straight on, over the kerb right as the barrier starts, and I had to do a second lap on slicks!

 

Not the introduction to driving in the wet I wanted really, but there’s always next week 😅

 

[milko]

45 minutes ago, Count Buffalos said:

What’s the deal with liveries? My car is still grey when it should be green - does the game save the livery that I had at the time of registering or something?

 

Is it definitely on the right livery in the server select screen? I sometimes find that isn't on the same car as the SP setting. 

[OJM CHICKEN]

Congrats on the win meers you deserve it, as for me I need to remember that in the wet a wet setup will always be better than a dry setup than i can barely drive in the dry. Still onto the next one 

[Meers]

9 hours ago, Count Buffalos said:

I enjoyed that, lucky podium finish

 

What’s the deal with liveries? My car is still grey when it should be green - does the game save the livery that I had at the time of registering or something?

 

Good job on the podium, Nick! I hadn't noticed that!

 

No, you can change liveries before the race no probs. Did you, by chance, alter an 'external' livery instead of an in-game one?

 

9 hours ago, milko said:

interesting, watching the Meers stream for a moment there. If I dared so much as touch some of the kerbs he's happily riding all over, my car went on a bit of "upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!" thing. Wet tyres, wet conditions engine map, high TC, same pressures pretty much. Just Porsche things? There must be a way, and my goodness I will find it. In a hedge somewhere, hopefully.

 

I raised my suspension, max wing, upped the TC and ABS to 8 out of 11 and had my pressures right at 30psi (they dropped later though). The BMW, just as the Bentley, eats kerbs for breakfast and is really good in rainy conditions.

 

9 hours ago, mexos said:

That's 2 out of 3 races the game has done me in. The start penalty drive through at Bathurst and the pitstop here.  What did I do to you?! 😟

 

ACC still hands my arse to me almost every race, even after 4 years of first playing it. Except it didn't last night, which is rare. You'll get used to it. Just double-check your pit settings before you box.

Come to think of it...the last time I have won a race was also in rainy conditions on Suzuka. Dynamic weather really suits me (and the Beamer). Absolutely loving it. Dutchies and water, eh?

[Meers]

4 minutes ago, OJM CHICKEN said:

Congrats on the win meers you deserve it, as for me I need to remember that in the wet a wet setup will always be better than a dry setup than i can barely drive in the dry. Still onto the next one 

 

Thanks Oli. I'm sure you will have me eating your dust the next time!

[milko]

2 minutes ago, Meers said:

I raised my suspension, max wing, upped the TC and ABS to 8 out of 11 and had my pressures right at 30psi (they dropped later though). The BMW, just as the Bentley, eats kerbs for breakfast and is really good in rainy conditions.

yes I believe I had a bad setup, on reflection. Too ambitious! I got the pressure right but not much else, maybe TC/ABS were ok. As for kerbs haha yes, when I try the M4 it feels like it’s a monster truck. 

[mexos]

I just found the note I made to myself to change the engine map to 6 if it rains. Did I do it?    

You know I did think it was a bit harsh on traction. 

[mexos]

13 minutes ago, Meers said:

Come to think of it...the last time I have won a race was also in rainy conditions on Suzuka. Dynamic weather really suits me (and the Beamer). Absolutely loving it. Dutchies and water, eh?

 

You had really nice pace throughout. I was trying to keep a gap and *just* about doing it to you and @SharkyOB but it was bloody hard work. I would have a slightly off lap and bosh, a second lost. Concentration to the max.

[Meers]

3 minutes ago, milko said:

yes I believe I had a bad setup, on reflection. Too ambitious! I got the pressure right but not much else, maybe TC/ABS were ok. As for kerbs haha yes, when I try the M4 it feels like it’s a monster truck. 

 

Sounds about right.

 

 

You know, the thing with most people who sim race is that they see people who use TC and ABS as not being manly. But the thing is that it makes the cars stable. And stable cars reach the finish line. Sure, too much will cost you traction, but too little TC will make you spin out and lose position, so a good balance is key. There is no shame in using more TC and/or ABS.

 

Just now, mexos said:

I just found the note I made to myself to change the engine map to 6 if it rains. Did I do it?   

 

I was running map 1, and it was fine with the TC settings I had.

 

7 minutes ago, mexos said:

You had really nice pace throughout. I was trying to keep a gap and *just* about doing it to you and @SharkyOB but it was bloody hard work. I would have a slightly off lap and bosh, a second lost. Concentration to the max.

 

I ran wide a couple of times trying to adjust the tyre pressures before my stop. I was gaining slightly on you but lost it again because of the fiddling.

[milko]

31 minutes ago, Meers said:

You know, the thing with most people who sim race is that they see people who use TC and ABS as not being manly. But the thing is that it makes the cars stable. And stable cars reach the finish line. Sure, too much will cost you traction, but too little TC will make you spin out and lose position, so a good balance is key. There is no shame in using more TC and/or ABS.

 

manly, or just slow? Nothing like the feeling of putting your foot down and hear it chop away while another car cruises off into the distance

I had them both pretty high though, I was tinkering a couple of times with dropping them as the track got a bit drier towards the end, but it got skittish straight away so I undid that straight away. I think my mechanical grip and ride height stuff was too aggressive.

 

ZaaaandvooOort next week, maybe you'll get some more rainy Dutch antics to play in.

[SneakyNinja]

12 hours ago, Count Buffalos said:

I enjoyed that, lucky podium finish

 

 

Well done on that. I reckon another 10 mins or so and I would have caught you  

 

@Meers! Bloody good job mate - winner winner chicken dinner (no pun intended @OJM CHICKEN - well, maybe a little bit)

 

Thankfully uneventful race for me, stealing 4th by attrition rather than speed. Again.

 

Sorry to the ACC newcomers for the various woes. But those hard earned lessons will serve you well in future. Pretty sure most of us went through the same pain, hence the paranoia now about checking all the pitstop settings, positions on the starting grid, fuel load, tyre pressures etc.!

 

[SharkyOB]

12 minutes ago, Meers said:

You know, the thing with most people who sim race is that they see people who use TC and ABS as not being manly.

 

GT3 cars are designed to be driven with TC and ABS on at all times, so that's 100% what you should do.  I wouldn't use either in a car from the 60s or 70s though.

[Erik]

18 minutes ago, milko said:

 

manly, or just slow? Nothing like the feeling of putting your foot down and here it chop away while another car cruises off into the distance

I had them both pretty high though, I was tinkering a couple of times with dropping them as the track got a bit drier towards the end, but it got skittish straight away so I undid that straight away. I think my mechanical grip and ride height stuff was too aggressive.

 

ZaaaandvooOort next week, maybe you'll get some more rainy Dutch antics to play in.

 

About this and your earlier remarks about how sketchy it is on curbs... Try to use 0 splitter angle and soften rear. You can raise both ends couple of mm and increase rake to compensate for lost splitter downforce. In my experience it becomes VERY sensitive to pitch and ground clearance if the front is low and/or there is more than 1 click of splitter and you really feel that when its wet.

[milko]

Thanks @Erik I will look at that. I keep thinking I should do a bit more wet weather practice in general but it's hard to break away from just trying to get better at whatever track we have on rotation, and this week's rain was a bit of a surprise (which I also like!). I find it plenty good enough on curbs usually in the dry but not last night, so that's very useful to know about.

[OJM CHICKEN]

38 minutes ago, SneakyNinja said:

 

@Meers! Bloody good job mate - winner winner chicken dinner (no pun intended @OJM CHICKEN - well, maybe a little bit)

After the hit their wasn't really much there left for dinner, you can still have pink slip to the worlds most broken Audi as an achievement if you want 😄

[davejm]

17 minutes ago, OJM CHICKEN said:

After the hit their wasn't really much there left for dinner, you can still have pink slip to the worlds most broken Audi as an achievement if you want 😄

 

My Audi setup was quite twitchy so struggled in the wet.  It is based on a Jardier stream that I saw... I froze the setup screen on the video and then copied the values over to my PC   Works nicely in the dry across most tracks, but in the wet?... no!!  I had varying degrees of TC set during the race and higher ABS values but I didn't get time to fiddle with the rest of the setup - or indeed know what I'd need to change to make a setup more friendly in the wet anyway.  So the race was a real struggle for me.  

[OJM CHICKEN]

2 minutes ago, davejm said:

 

My Audi setup was quite twitchy so struggled in the wet.  It is based on a Jardier stream that I saw... I froze the setup screen on the video and then copied the values over to my PC   Works nicely in the dry across most tracks, but in the wet?... no!!  I had varying degrees of TC set during the race and higher ABS values but I didn't get time to fiddle with the rest of the setup - or indeed know what I'd need to change to make a setup more friendly in the wet anyway.  So the race was a real struggle for me.  

well you did better than me, my setup was absolutely terrifying it slid around all of the place even in the dry for no good reason so there was no chance i was ever going to make it through the race, still well done on taming the beast.

[Meers]

2 hours ago, milko said:

ZaaaandvooOort next week, maybe you'll get some more rainy Dutch antics to play in.

 

Bloody Zandvoort! Probably my least liked track in ACC.

 

2 hours ago, SneakyNinja said:

@Meers! Bloody good job mate - winner winner chicken dinner (no pun intended @OJM CHICKEN - well, maybe a little bit)

 

Sorry to the ACC newcomers for the various woes. But those hard earned lessons will serve you well in future. Pretty sure most of us went through the same pain, hence the paranoia now about checking all the pitstop settings, positions on the starting grid, fuel load, tyre pressures etc.!

 

Muchos graçias muchacho!

 

Yeah all the harsh lessons ACC gives you will make you stronger eventually!

[davejm]

No rain next week.  It's a sprint week so there will be daytime and night races

[SneakyNinja]

9 minutes ago, davejm said:

No rain next week.  It's a sprint week so there will be daytime and night races

 

By then I should have my new PC running so rather than turning things down so it can cope with sunsets, I'll be all..

 

[Kristian Svenning]

@Meers congrats on the win, mate!
 

Sounds like you all had an eventful race. Good for you I wasn’t able to race, I’m so bad in the wet and with wet setups that I would have had to have a huge warning sign over my car as I’d be very dangerous to everyone out on track 😅

 

I was sad I couldn’t race since I do like the Ring (when I’m having a good day) but life happens. Looking forward to Zandvoort, I love the track even though the track doesn’t love me….YET 😆

[Meers]

3 minutes ago, Kristian Svenning said:

@Meers congrats on the win, mate!
 

Sounds like you all had an eventful race. Good for you I wasn’t able to race, I’m so bad in the wet and with wet setups that I would have had to have a huge warning sign over my car as I’d be very dangerous to everyone out on track 😅

 

I was sad I couldn’t race since I do like the Ring (when I’m having a good day) but life happens. Looking forward to Zandvoort, I love the track even though the track doesn’t love me….YET 😆

 

Cheers Kris. Looking forward to seeing you back on the track again next week!

[Kristian Svenning]

14 minutes ago, Meers said:

 

Cheers Kris. Looking forward to seeing you back on the track again next week!

Looking forward to that myself…I think 😀 

[Kristian Svenning]

Omg! I have a zoom call from 2000-2300 with a producer community I’m involved in next Thursday so I won’t be able to make that race either. Jeez. Will unregister from the race to avoid confusion. Why do all the fun stuff collide! 🤣

[SneakyNinja]

25 minutes ago, Kristian Svenning said:

Omg! I have a zoom call from 2000-2300 with a producer community I’m involved in next Thursday so I won’t be able to make that race either. Jeez. Will unregister from the race to avoid confusion. Why do all the fun stuff collide! 🤣

 

Maybe sim racing isn't for you, if your life is so full of collisions  

 

(Shame you can't make it though!)