PlayStation 5 - Next gen is expensive

[HarryBizzle]

8 minutes ago, the_debaser said:

Remember the brilliant switch adverts showing people playing the system and how it would improve gaming by being portable and sharing with your friends? 
 

This is the exact opposite of that. 

 

The "brilliant" Switch roof parties?

 

 

 

[the_debaser]

Yeah those. I loved them.
 

They sold the concept instantly. 

[footle]

3 minutes ago, HarryBizzle said:

 

The "brilliant" Switch roof parties?

 

 

 

From their advert...

 

You're a PS5 gamer.

You're probably scared of the opposite sex.

 

You're better off isolated on a boat.

Let's call it a cruise ship. 

A covid-raddled cruise ship.

In quarantine.

Stuck off the coast of Australia.

Praying for that tsunami.

 

Not sure how you'd fit the PS5 in your cabin though. You should probably buy a Switch instead.

[mikeyl]

those Switch parties are kinda realistic? Replace the hot women with out of control nephews who will absolutely not let you eat your Christmas dinner in peace or 4 hungover lads coming back from a stag do in a 10 hour delay at Split airport and it has happened? 

[Dirty Harry Potter]

Jesus you lot are harsh critics.

 

I thought it was quite imaginative and fun.

[yashiro]

I don't think having people invading on boats is a sound idea for a marketing video in the UK.

 

Also, wtf at the PS4 guy video when it cuts to the 20fps game footage. Imagine thinking yeah boss, this is good to go.

[Uncle Mike]

Mark me down for someone who thought the Switch adverts were decent. I think that dancing man PS4 ad is pretty decent also. The PS5 boat one does nothing for me.

[Flanders]

Has everyone forgotten how crazy the PS2 adverts were? The David Lynch one and all the others in the same vein?

 

Or the Mental Wealth one for the first PlayStation? It’s a proud legacy of marketing that has sweet fuck all to do with the main product but looks cool anyway.

 

Rooftop parties, pfffft.

[ChristopherBloodAxe]

I thought this was a Playstation ad but remember the Xbox ad specifically designed to put you off gaming by reminding you how short life is?:

 

 

[englishbob]

2 hours ago, Dirty Harry Potter said:

Jesus you lot are harsh critics.

 

I thought it was quite imaginative and fun.

 

All I got out of that was a game running at about 15fps and looking janky  (the PS4 ad)

[englishbob]

2 hours ago, HarryBizzle said:

 

The "brilliant" Switch roof parties?

 

 

 

 

What is it with the yanks and those big red cups? They are in just about every TV show or film when the yoofs "throw a party"

[Stanley]

2 hours ago, pinholestar said:

The collective 40-somethings of Rllmuk reliving their distant faded youth by dropping Britpop band names and then Sony come rolling in with a brand awareness ad set to a score of Baba O’Riley. What the hell is going on?!

Ah, yeah, you mean who the hell is going on 

[Broker]

5 minutes ago, englishbob said:

 

What is it with the yanks and those big red cups? They are in just about every TV show or film when the yoofs "throw a party"

They’re just disposable cups, like the white ones we have here but a bit bigger because they’re generally used for alcohol instead of children’s drinks. They’re more common in America, because they seem to buy more kegs of beer where we’re more likely to buy bottles, I guess because larger houses there make larger gatherings more common so everyone chipping in for a keg is generally more economical.

[Robo_1]

The advert sets a grandiose, fantastical tone. It seems like a continuation of the PS4 era adverts which put players into various game settings. I liked it, as an opening shot I think it captures the sort of larger than life tone they're going for.

[Talk Show Host]

55 minutes ago, Broker said:

They’re just disposable cups, like the white ones we have here but a bit bigger because they’re generally used for alcohol instead of children’s drinks. They’re more common in America, because they seem to buy more kegs of beer where we’re more likely to buy bottles, I guess because larger houses there make larger gatherings more common so everyone chipping in for a keg is generally more economical.

This is an extremely good answer. 

[Alex W.]

Well, that pretty much decides it, $499 or not

[carlospie]

If its too expensive, you can just get a second job. Or a third. 

[wretcherd]

A lot of us need a first job right now.

[Cyhwuhx]

“And now the moment you’ve all been waiting for. Welcome back Kaz Hirai with a very, very special number that’s close to our hearts and embodies the PlayStation spirit.”

 

[footle]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/15/21437517/sony-ps5-manufacturing-yields-problems-report
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/sony-is-said-to-cut-ps5-forecast-by-4-million-due-to-chip-woes
 

Yield rumours. If true, expensive.

(AMD are getting at least 70%+, it’s tricky to find sources, but then they’re not producing as complicated a SOC that has to run everything at high clock rates).

[AI]

I wonder if Sony have a mass PS4 upgrade scheme up their sleeves to make people transition to PS5 faster?

 

Send Sony your PS4 + £199/£299 > PS5 Digital/Disc

Send Sony your PS4 Pro + £149/£249 > PS5 Digital/Disc

 

Otherwise retail price is £349/£449

 

Therefore claiming that their console is cheaper than the Xbox Series X and S? They will then refurbish/reuse all the PS4 hardware into their PS Now infrastructure or sell them cheaply to countries that haven't progressed from PS3 yet?

[Dirty Harry Potter]

In your dreams.

[Transient Curse]

4 minutes ago, AI1 said:

Therefore claiming that their console is cheaper than the Xbox Series X and S? They will then refurbish/reuse all the PS4 hardware into their PS Now infrastructure or sell them cheaply to countries that haven't progressed from PS3 yet?

 

Their PSNow infrastructure? Like a big room with loads of PS4 consoles racked up together? Is that how they do it? Really? 

[footle]

15 minutes ago, AI1 said:

I wonder if Sony have a mass PS4 upgrade scheme up their sleeves to make people transition to PS5 faster?

 

Send Sony your PS4 + £199/£299 > PS5 Digital/Disc

Send Sony your PS4 Pro + £149/£249 > PS5 Digital/Disc

 

Otherwise retail price is £349/£449

Yes. This is definitely the plan for an item that they’re projected to make a loss on, and that they won’t be able to keep in stock.

[AI]

NO MUSING IN THREAD ALLOWED.

 

Plus @Wahwah*that's precisely what they were doing with PS3 retail units in the early stages of PS Now. Who knows what they will do with PS4 trade-ins? I don't particularly care.

 

 

[footle]

Just now, AI1 said:

NO MUSING IN THREAD ALLOWED.

No replying in thread calling said musing ridiculous, allowed?

[Popo]

Maybe just a blanket ban on all replies for the time being? Just to be on the safe side. 

[Transient Curse]

15 minutes ago, AI1 said:

 Who knows what they will do with PS4 trade-ins? I don't particularly care.

 

I suspect it's Sony who won't care about ps4 trade-ins.

[teddymeow]

ONE SLEEP TO GO!! w00t w00t!!!

 

Sorry, was that a little exuberant for a bland man?

[teddymeow]

1 hour ago, footle said:

https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/15/21437517/sony-ps5-manufacturing-yields-problems-report
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/sony-is-said-to-cut-ps5-forecast-by-4-million-due-to-chip-woes
 

Yield rumours. If true, expensive.

(AMD are getting at least 70%+, it’s tricky to find sources, but then they’re not producing as complicated a SOC that has to run everything at high clock rates).

 

They still plan on 11 million machines out there by end of March 2021 which is an insane number!

 

Unless this cut of 4 million means I can't get hold of one.

 

Then it's terrible!