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12 minutes ago, LowCostMonkey said:

Here's another picture of those DevKits. Just devkits of course, nothing to really learn. Apparently the reason for the large V shape is to make them more easily stackable for Devs.

 

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Which is just weird, because it isn't as though there hasn't been decades of research into "how to air cool stacked things" without them having a stupid shape.

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1 minute ago, footle said:

 

Which is just weird, because it isn't as though there hasn't been decades of research into "how to air cool stacked things" without them having a stupid shape.

Not really. You don't put all your R&D budget into designing super efficient cooling into a dev kit. So if you can find a cheap way of doing it and forcing air out the front, then happy days.

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I think that's a silly article, which coming from Forbes is probably just a given. You don't need a 4K monitor to play on a Xbox One X, or a PS4 Pro. You won't need an HDMI 2.1 TV to play the PS5. But you would if you wanted to get the top whack from it. The same will likely be true for the Scarlett.

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It strikes me as a non story. Sets with HDMI 2.1 don’t support 120Hz anyway. 
 

And the idea that devs are suddenly going to start making 120fps console games for the 1% of people who can play them, when this generation solid 30fps is seen as an achievement and 60fps is basically a pipe dream, is far fetched. 

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That is an extremely stupid article. It seems to be saying that Sony have made a huge error by supporting a standard that is available on a tiny number of TVs at the moment. Presumably if they hadn't supported it, they could have a couple of minor amendments and published the same article, this time berating Sony for not future-proofing their TVs.

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11 minutes ago, skittles said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2019/06/07/playstation-5-just-gave-most-tv-brands-including-sony-a-serious-headache/#51dbe5b53a69

 

Has this been discussed? 

 

So new amp and a new screen will be required. Unkess can run an optical out to the amp and hdmi 2.1 to the screen. 

 

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To be clear, if you already have or end up buying a TV that doesn’t have HDMI 2.1 ports, you should still be able to play PS5 games that have been crafted to support 4K@120Hz. You won’t (hopefully!) be faced with blank screens. You will not, though, be able to enjoy the maximum performance from such games.

 

Duh!

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Interesting render. Woud they really build a screen into the controller? It's surely too small to bother streaming games to, so it's intended for quick messaging and fast access to menus? That seems like quite an extra expense for a modest convenience. I am curious how Sony will handle game streaming. MS seem to be working on a proper Xbox branded smartphone dock, which seems like the way to go. No indication yet that Sony are following that path, but with Vita mothballed, they will surely have some sort of mobile strategy.

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Fake game console aesthetics haven’t advanced since the early 2000s. That wouldn’t have looked out of place in the April 2001 issue of Gamesmaster. The last exciting fake was the 3D printed Nintendo NX and that stole all its bad design ideas from Nintendo’s patent attorneys.
 

What bold visionary will give us the next Nintendo ON?

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What's intereating is this is all bullshit, Sony are pretty much silent while MS is starting to give details. There's a quote from Horizon Zero Dawn, 'confidence is quiet'. 

 

That said, this could also signal Sony having fuck all in their hand. :lol:

 

Until we have full details from both parties, there's no point in all this shite. I want proper specs from both sides. The key point for me will be how the developers feel about both consoles, at the start of this gen the developers loved the PS4, and fucking hated the Xbox One .... that changed the developers mindset this gen. Last gen it was the Xbox 360 that developers loved, it could swing back to MS next gen. Sony can't get complacent, but we know from the PS3 they can be guilty of just that.

 

2020 is set to be very interesting. 

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1 hour ago, Thor said:

The key point for me will be how the developers feel about both consoles, at the start of this gen the developers loved the PS4, and fucking hated the Xbox One .... that changed the developers mindset this gen

 

In terms of what they've announced, they are both really similar in CPU, GPU, memory architecture and storage.  Maybe one of them will pull something different with ray tracing and be clear ahead?

 

Both teams only have so much silicon to work with.  Xbox aren't trading that for a RAM scratchpad this time around. 

 

(It's not entirely fair to say Sony got lucky with GDDR5  prices last time but a 4GB PS4 Vs an 8GB XBone would have been a different story)

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30 minutes ago, PC Master Race said:

Repeat after me. 'It's all about the games, graphics don't matter'.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-playstation-5-xbox-series-x-spec-leak-analysed

 

If Xbox is least powerful...

’Haha, weakest console. What a load of shit!’

 

If PS5 is least powerful...

’It’s all about the games, graphics don’t matter!’

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