PlayStation 5 - Next gen is expensive

[Clipper]

4 minutes ago, Revival said:

 

There's currently just over 290! on there at the mo.

is there? when you go to the gamepas thing and list all - doies it? cos I scroll thru and think Im seeing about 100 icons - am I missing some?

 

[Ghosty]

I'd still personally rather buy my games. They feel more special that way. I can be more selective in my choices.

[Thor]

5 minutes ago, Ghosty said:

I'd still personally rather buy my games. They feel more special that way. I can be more selective in my choices.

Neanderthal.

[Boozy The Clown]

19 minutes ago, Ghosty said:

 

I watched all of it. I'll be honest. I felt stupid after a couple of minutes.

I feel like Mark Cerny after reading your posts.

[Mr. Gerbik]

3 hours ago, AI1 said:

A few things. The PS4, the PS1 and the Wii (leaving aside the PS2) are three of the most succesful games consoles of all time and had zero backwards compatibility. Ergo, although it's a nice feature, it has minimal affect on hardware sales

I give zero fucks about your hardware sales, I want BC because I like it. And I love the way Microsoft has been handling it, basically giving us free remasters thanks to all the improvements, and I was hoping PS5 would do at least something comparable.

[Ghosty]

12 minutes ago, Thor said:

Neanderthal.

 

I use it on the PC. Well the beta version anyhow.

[metallicfrodo]

So why were you asking what it was....

[Ghosty]

9 minutes ago, metallicfrodo said:

So why were you asking what it was....

 

In case it was different, or not the same thing.

[Alex W.]

Maybe the Xbox Series X will cost £500, there's an Xbox Series S that's £300 but slower than PS5, and Sony is finding a sensible, helpful compromise.

 

:|

[Super Craig]

That's what I thought would happen. Not so sure now. The specs seem close enough, outside of Sony putting more focus on SSD/audio and Microsoft putting more focus on CPU/GPU.

[JPL]

54 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

Maybe the Xbox Series X will cost £500, there's an Xbox Series S that's £300 but slower than PS5, and Sony is finding a sensible, helpful compromise.

 

:|

If the Series S doesn’t materialise, I’ve got a feeling that MS will want to continue along their confident path and will wait for Sony to announce the price of the PS5 first, then undercut them. Even if they have to take a hit.

[Trigg]

Some might be interested in this. Always liked his videos, though he does get very technical at times! 

 

 

[Bojangle]

They’ve clarified the BC stuff a little.

 

 

[teddymeow]

4 minutes ago, Bojangle said:

They’ve clarified the BC stuff a little.

 

 

 

Now that is a rather welcome clarification!!

 

Bring on Resogun at 120FPS & 8K!!!

[Alex W.]

Oh boy are they beefing the messaging on this.

[mdn2]

6 minutes ago, Bojangle said:

They’ve clarified the BC stuff a little.

 

 

At launch?

[Trigg]

6 minutes ago, Bojangle said:

They’ve clarified the BC stuff a little.

 

 

 

So did he mean that most of the top 100 PS4 games currently run in a boosted mode maybe?

[JPL]

Eh? What the fuck was Cerny on about then? They really need to wheel him back into the basement.

[Ghosty]

1 minute ago, Trigg said:

 

So did he mean that most of the top 100 PS4 games currently run in a boosted mode maybe?

 

Yes.

[Trigg]

Just now, Ghosty said:

 

Yes.

 

Makes sense with clarification. BC is the least of my concerns, I rarely, if ever replay games!

[Ghosty]

2 minutes ago, Trigg said:

 

Makes sense with clarification. BC is the least of my concerns, I rarely, if ever replay games!

 

Same here. But other people have collections of titles that they like to play often.

[teddymeow]

3 minutes ago, Trigg said:

 

So did he mean that most of the top 100 PS4 games currently run in a boosted mode maybe?

 

Or most of the top 100 ran without any tinkering needed to get them running.

[Uncle Mike]

Boneheaded messaging there for the 48 hours or whatever it was. Sony feel flat-footed at the moment.

[Ferine]

1 minute ago, Trigg said:

So did he mean that most of the top 100 PS4 games currently run in a boosted mode maybe?

That was my takeaway from the presentation. Playing games at PS4/PS4 Pro levels of performance should pretty much work for everything, but unlocking the extra performance of the PS5 might break some things.

 

It reminds me a bit of Boost Mode on the Pro, where Sony were extremely cautious in their messaging around it and it turned out to be totally fine; I'm sure there are titles that didn't like it, but I can't recall a single one.

[Ghosty]

1 minute ago, grindmouse said:

I will never not want to dip into Burnout Paradise. 

 

Awesome game.

[footle]

24 minutes ago, Bojangle said:

They’ve clarified the BC stuff a little.

 

 

Go back to the original developers to get a patch?!

[joffocakes]

21 minutes ago, Trigg said:

 

So did he mean that most of the top 100 PS4 games currently run in a boosted mode maybe?

 

That's what I thought Cerny meant in his presentation but afterward the messaging seemed to suggest that some of the top 100 most-played games wouldn't run at all.

 

Did Sony share the list of those top 100 titles? If it's by playtime it's likely full of FIFA and CoD and Fortnite.

[JoeK]

28 minutes ago, Ghosty said:

 

Same here. But other people have collections of titles that they like to play often.

 

I seem to spend my life replaying games to be honest. It doesn't stop me from buying more and more, but I always end up playing old favourites. I feel games like Witcher 3 and Mass Effect have entered into negative spend in terms of £ per hours played!

[Ghosty]

1 minute ago, JoeK said:

 

I seem to spend my life replaying games to be honest. It doesn't stop me from buying more and more, but I always end up playing old favourites. I feel games like Witcher 3 and Mass Effect have entered into negative spend in terms of £ per hours played!

 

You won't play them again once you see the games being developed for these new consoles.

[Mr. Gerbik]

It really is a lot like the Xbone introduction. Not in terms of tv tv tv sports sports sports, but people forget that the messaging was terribly unclear. Depending on which executive a journo got to talk to at the Xbone launch event, they'd hear a different story about for example how stuff like DRM would work. Confusion allround. That the PS5 presentation was so incredibly tone-deaf in regards to their audience and timing, and also featured horribly unclear messaging around stuff like BC - even with the above clarification we're STILL not fucking sure what exactly we can expect from BC at launch ffs - that's all uncannily similar to the Xbone team ballsing it up. You can tell that it's a totally different team launching the PS5 compared to the slick and confident PS4 launch.

 

The respective hardcore fans of the weaker console specs-wise, twisting themselves into a knot explaining that lower specs mean better performance somehow is another uncanny similarity.

 

(Admittedly a big difference is that Microsoft didn't have excellent first-party games to compensate)

 

All we need now, as mentioned above, is for Sony to announce the price of the PS5 and Microsoft subsequently undercutting it for history to repeat itself in the most unbelievable manner. (On that subject, maybe knowledgeable people like @PC Master Race could clarify whether having such a fancy and custom SSD could push the overall cost of the PS5 above the XsX despite the XsX being more beefy? That's just a thought that came to mind looking at how expensive SSD's can be, so a fancy custom one...)

 

 

 

I already have one pre-order to be clear, because I always buy all consoles, but I'm glad that one of the big players seems to be completely bricking it again. It's just excellent popcorn.gif entertainment.