Popular Post Paulando Posted May 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2019 Thought this was worthy of its own thread as it’s different enough from the Rift and Rift S models. It’s essentially its own platform, with a completely separate store and collection of games. It’s a self-contained VR headset, with all the hardware built into the unit itself so there are no wires, no PC or console, and it doesn’t need external cameras for tracking either. Day one for me, and I’m pretty excited by the prospect of wireless VR gaming with nothing to setup beforehand. Superhot VR is going to be pretty special on this I reckon. Out on the 21st May for £399 (64GB) or £499 (128GB). — Oculus Usernames: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YTbV_yvJtieDx7-RDcudzKMCs9jUD8XUY92xDKqmrZA/edit?usp=sharing 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
df0 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 What’s the difference between this and the Oculus Go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarhkFox Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, df0 said: What’s the difference between this and the Oculus Go? It's got proper tracking and touch controls and i believe a better screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
df0 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Well bollocks, I very recently bought the Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogster Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I'm very interested, although probably not day 1. I have an original retail Rift, but the idea of a self contained one is very appealing. I'll be interested to see how well it's supported going forwards compared to the Rift S, which I guess will depend on how well it sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchell Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Really interesting, in-depth video here. Only issue I see, is that because the controllers are different to the CV1's, that there are now two different control types - the CV1 vs the Quest and S (which are not compatible?) for different games. Bit of a weird decision that fragments the base even more... Looks good though, although I think I'll plump for an S, as I have a PC sitting there. Seems silly to go for a Quest if I have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, df0 said: What’s the difference between this and the Oculus Go? better screen more powerful 6 degrees of tracking inc tracking in 3d space using front mounted cameras on unit Front mounted cameras which you can use to set guardian space to walk aroudn in etc (because of the extra tracking) two touch sensor controllers with full tracking gubbins instead of single remote with no accelerometer. its 399! I am buying one day one. cable free all in one appeals to me especially with superior tracking to PSVR (which is infuriating at times) =- the games look great, Superhot is not great on PSVR and looking forwar dto it cable free on Quest. I had Oculus rift for PC but something went wrong after a big oculus software update and the headset just wouldnt work with my pc anymore, not even a replacement so I sold it. Quest will have no such problems and I have psvr for tethered powerful games (and sony exclusives like No Mans Sky) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mitchell said: Really interesting, in-depth video here. Only issue I see, is that because the controllers are different to the CV1's, that there are now two different control types - the CV1 vs the Quest and S (which are not compatible?) for different games. Bit of a weird decision that fragments the base even more... Looks good though, although I think I'll plump for an S, as I have a PC sitting there. Seems silly to go for a Quest if I have one. I'm only going for Quest as my PC (i7 with 1070) just doesnt work with oculus software anymore - god knows why - and standalone means my son can play it in lounge etc... free open play As for the contollers - I believe that they are the same barring the design of them - the buttons work same and it tracks the same the hoop bit is on top not bottom so cameras can see them but that's is it... so no difficulty supproting both as they are interchangeable in terms of programming them in games - it is pure trakcing tech means ring has to be on top/bottom depending on which system you have. So not compatible i.e. you cant use rift s controllers on rift - but basically the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeJay Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 This seems like it might be the jumping in point for me and several other people I know. Not having to have an expensive PC and wireless are the key factors. I have access to wired oculus through work but don't use it because of the tethering and not being able to use it with my laptop. I've used the gearVR more to be honest, for watching things like netflix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Certificate Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 wow, what spec are the computer bits on the inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 not much - snapdragon 835 same as a galaxy s8 but checkout Superhot video and others to see that it does look very good in action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
df0 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Are you restricted to the games on their Store? The Go allows side loading of movies which is very nice because you’re not restricted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Carmack on twitter in March said sideloading worked same as on the Go But I understand it isn't that straight forward on Go (you have to have a developer account?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
df0 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 For movies? I read that as well and that put me off, but then I learnt about Android Transfer Tool. Connect the Go via cable to the Mac/pc, allow access and simply drag and drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Ben Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I'm not sure how comfy the new ones will be but I couldn't watch a movie on my rift, I don't see the point of be uncomfortable and hot for 2 hours when a big TV is just fine. Unless we are talking about a different kind of movie you might watch for 10 minutes, in that case you need the SLR app. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, df0 said: For movies? I read that as well and that put me off, but then I learnt about Android Transfer Tool. Connect the Go via cable to the Mac/pc, allow access and simply drag and drop. oh right well Carmack said sideloading was same as the Go - and both Go and Quest are android so I am guessing they use same software/OS approaches etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mawdlin Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 That does look fantastic for £399. Beat Sabre and Moss I haven't played so it's very tempting. I love PSVR but the cable and blurriness definitely count against it. Concerns: - will it be supported with AAA games; - will they release a better version 1 year later; - will Sony trump this with something better (or as good as) with PS5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, Mawdlin said: That does look fantastic for £399. Beat Sabre and Moss I haven't played so it's very tempting. I love PSVR but the cable and blurriness definitely count against it. Concerns: - will it be supported with AAA games; - will they release a better version 1 year later; - will Sony trump this with something better (or as good as) with PS5. my predictions 1) Has there been a AAA VR game ? Realistically these are made at a loss given the install base and the investment needed for AAA games so likely to be platform exclusive paid for by the platform holder. I would predict that any AAA that oculus pays for will have versions for all its headsets. 2) 2 years later would be my prediction as it is a bigger pricetag than Go so they will be looking for longer life here - asking people to drop $400 every year is a bit tricky I think. But it is a danger and obviously if we wait for a year we could jump in and still have it replaced in a year 3) Yes PS5VR headset is going to be better - and it better have decent controllers! - but it will still have a cable. I want Quest for the stuff that needs better tracking and for more social play in main family room etc. And I prefer short arcade style games these days anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulando Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, Mawdlin said: That does look fantastic for £399. Beat Sabre and Moss I haven't played so it's very tempting. I love PSVR but the cable and blurriness definitely count against it. Concerns: - will it be supported with AAA games; - will they release a better version 1 year later; - will Sony trump this with something better (or as good as) with PS5. - The launch line up is impressive enough. Hopefully with it being the most accessible VR headset ever released it’ll get decent support too. But we’ll see! - Undoubtedly. They’ll surely upgrade the mobile chip every 1 or 2 years. But you could get one now, or spend forever waiting for the next upgrade - It’s a different experience for me. I won’t be able to play WipEout or Astro Bot on the Quest, but the experience of playing those stand up/open world games like Superhot will be unparalleled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footle Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Mitchell said: Really interesting, in-depth video here. Only issue I see, is that because the controllers are different to the CV1's, that there are now two different control types - the CV1 vs the Quest and S (which are not compatible?) for different games. Bit of a weird decision that fragments the base even more... Looks good though, although I think I'll plump for an S, as I have a PC sitting there. Seems silly to go for a Quest if I have one. The controllers don’t differ in layout, just in where the band goes, I though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallicfrodo Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Really really tempted by one of these. Looks pretty great. Interested to know how much better the res on this is than PSVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Quest is 1600 x 1440 per eye PSVR is 960x1080 per eye both are OLED and pentile Oh but note that PSVR is 90/120hz and Quest is only 72hz - which might mean you are more susceptible to motion sickness apparently due to lower refresh rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayn Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 A 100% increase in pixels should be very noticeable indeed. I'm very tempted by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 reviews I have read say that Superhot definitely looks sharper than on any other headset which is promising. just have to temper expectations as it doesn't have the grunt to do the complex effects - so Thumper for instance while sharper is missing some visual effects to keep framerate up to snuff. And that is also the reason for the 72hz refresh rate as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 What's the launch line up? Whilst it does look impressive it's not going to capable of running Elite Dangerous or No Man's Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 https://uploadvr.com/quest-50-launch-titles-list/ but no it won't be able to do those two - PSVR can't even do E:D. Some good stuff there though. The fact it can do Moss, Superhot, I expect you to die and Robo recall is encouraging. I think plainer stylised content will work better - and I prefer that in VR generally. edit : here is list for those who cant click through 1. Angry Birds VR: Isle of Pigs, Resolution Games 2. Apex Construct, Fast Travel Games 3. Apollo 11, Immersive VR Education 4. Bait!, Resolution Games 5. Ballista, High Voltage Software 6. Beat Saber, Beat Games 7. Bigscreen Beta, Bigscreen VR 8. Bogo, Oculus 9. Bonfire, Baobab 10. Box VR, Fit XR 11. Creed, Survios 12. Dance Central, Harmonix 13. Dead and Buried 2, Oculus Studios 14. Drop Dead: Duel Strike, Pixel Toys 15. Electronauts, Survios 16. Epic Roller Coasters, B4T Games 17. Face Your Fears 2, Turtle Rock Studios 18. First Contact, Oculus 19. Fruit Ninja VR, Halfbrick 20. Guided Tai Chi, Cubicle Ninjas 21. I Expect You To Die, Schell Games 22. Job Simulator, Owlchemy Labs, 23. Journey of the Gods, Turtle Rock Studios 24. Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes, Steel Crate Games 25. Moss, Polyarc 26. National Geographic VR Explore, Force Field VR 27. Nature Treks, Greener Games 28. Ocean Rift, Dr. Llyr Ap Cenydd 29. Oculus Browser, Oculus 30. Oculus Gallery, Oculus 31. Oculus TV, Oculus 32. Oculus Video, Oculus 33. Orbus VR, Orbus Online 34. PokerStars VR, LuckyVR 35. Racket Fury: Table Tennis, Pixel Edge Games 36. Rec Room, Against Gravity 37. Robo Recall, Drifter Entertainment 38. RUSH, Binary Mill 39. Shadow Point, Coatsink 40. Skybox VR Video Player, Source Technology Inc 41. Space Pirate Trainer, I-Illusions 42. Sports Scramble, Armature Studios 43. SUPERHOT VR, SUPERHOT Team 44. The Exorcist: Legion VR, Developer Wolf & Wood, Publisher Fun Train 45. Thumper, Drool 46. Tilt Brush, Google 47. Ultrawings, Bit Planet Games 48. Vader Immortal, ILMxLab 49. Virtual Desktop, Virtual Desktop, Inc. 50. Virtual Virtual Reality, Tender Claws 51. VR Karts, Viewpoint Games 52. VRChat, VRChat 53. Wander, Parkline Interactive 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Oh and here are a list of Crossbuy games confirmed for those of us moving from Rift to Quest https://uploadvr.com/rift-quest-cross-buy-games/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdood Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Superhot doesn't seem to be on that list? It's gotta be crossbuy, surely? This is looking like my Xmas present to myself for this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallicfrodo Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I wonder if Beat Saber will allow you to load community creations onto it? While there is talk about this being cool for party play the lack of a social (screen obviously) makes this seem very much a solo experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarik Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I'll be keeping an eye on this, but for the time being at least, its 'Little Brother' the Oculus Go is a lovely little self-contained VR platform with quite an expansive software library that frequently has stuff on sale, so I'll stick with that for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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