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SeanR

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46 minutes ago, Dudley said:

I note  #pochout is trending on Twitter, although I never know how many posts that actually means.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_trends

 

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A recent study[1] analysed trending topics of 2018 according to several criteria. Their results highlight a number of points:

 

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In average, a topic needs more than 112 thousand tweets to reach the top ten list, and 263 thousand tweets to reach the first rank.[1]

 

but that gets smaller as the region is reduced to, say, north london, it could be as low as 1200.

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2 minutes ago, Silent Runner said:

Leicester so close to taking a point off of Liverpool but then give up a 93rd minute is a ridiculous way. Bunch of clowns. 

 

For me it is a dive, there is contact but Mane just falls over like 2 seconds later, 

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3 minutes ago, humdrum said:

 

For me it is a dive, there is contact but Mane just falls over like 2 seconds later, 

 

Clumsy, needless challenge. Don’t give a striker the opportunity to make the most of any contact. If one of our defenders had done similar would be fuming at their error (and Vardy would have fallen exactly the same way given the chance)

 

Leicester were very good in the second half but shot themselves in the foot.

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1 minute ago, Stopharage said:

Ridiculously soft penalty. Albrighton gave Mane the opportunity to fall over and he took it. 

 

I hate that phrase, "gave him the opportunity". the bloke cheated and that phrase is just used by people to gaslight the dive and blame someone else for the players cheating.

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1 minute ago, glb said:

 

Clumsy, needless challenge. Don’t give a striker the opportunity to make the most of any contact. If one of our defenders had done similar would be fuming at their error (and Vardy would have fallen exactly the same way given the chance)

 

Leicester were very good in the second half but shot themselves in the foot.

 

Contact isn't a foul. 

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1 minute ago, humdrum said:

 

Contact isn't a foul. 

 

Not all contact no, but make contact at a players ankle and you run the risk of a foul being given.

 

Not disputing it was soft, but very easy to see why it was given. Like I said, if one of our players had done the same I’d be blaming them for being naive, not a Leicester player for taking the foul or the referee for giving it.

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5 minutes ago, humdrum said:

 

I hate that phrase, "gave him the opportunity". the bloke cheated and that phrase is just used by people to gaslight the dive and blame someone else for the players cheating.

“Gaslight the dive”. Jesus wept. 

 

I’m a Leicester fan. Albrighton screwed up. Whilst I don’t think it was a foul, Mane used Albrighton’s leg, the ref bought it. VAR was never going to overturn the decision. 

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14 minutes ago, humdrum said:

 

I hate that phrase, "gave him the opportunity". the bloke cheated and that phrase is just used by people to gaslight the dive and blame someone else for the players cheating.


Dry your eyes mate :lol:

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1 minute ago, Stopharage said:

“Gaslight the dive”. Jesus wept. 

 

I’m a Leicester fan. Albrighton screwed up. Whilst I don’t think it was a foul, Mane used Albrighton’s leg, the ref bought it. VAR was never going to overturn the decision. 

 

So if you don't think it was a foul, then you think it was a dive.

 

Blaming the defender for being naive is taking the responsibility from the player that dived and passing it onto the defender. 

 

We can't complain about players diving when fans pass the responsibility for being honest from the diver onto the defender by using phrases such as "gave him the opportunity", "brought it" and "earned it"  

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4 hours ago, Adrock said:

If it ends up with a Tottenham loss does it affect Pochettino's future? At some point they need to address the form going back to the end of last season.


I still don’t think so or hope it does, the ‘crisis’ is injuries and Poch not having been able to pick a full strength team for over a year let alone the back end of a season. This run is poor and the rot needs to stop but I don’t think Poch should be shouldering all the blame and I think the club are firmly behind him if the press and vocal fans are not.

 

I am not saying this is any excuse but apparently Lloris injury was very nasty and clearly some players were pretty shocked by what they saw as were some staff in the tunnel - sounds like a very bad break and long term recovery :( 

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1 hour ago, Shimmyhill said:


I still don’t think so or hope it does, the ‘crisis’ is injuries and Poch not having been able to pick a full strength team for over a year let alone the back end of a season. This run is poor and the rot needs to stop but I don’t think Poch should be shouldering all the blame and I think the club are firmly behind him if the press and vocal fans are not.

 

I am not saying this is any excuse but apparently Lloris injury was very nasty and clearly some players were pretty shocked by what they saw as were some staff in the tunnel - sounds like a very bad break and long term recovery :( 

 

Just saw the injury and can imagine something like that would be at a back of a player’s mind for a lot if not all the game. The fact a goal was also conceded at the same time made it the worst possible start.

 

Would be a shame if Pochettino got the boot so early in the season. Spurs still have a lot of players to come back and are a long way from their season being over. It’s a wobble but with a fair few mitigating circumstances that would render any rash decisions about his future short-sighted.

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skadupuk

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10 hours ago, neoELITE said:

I wish the rules would revert back to how offside used to be. 

 

He's not offside according to VAR. We'll ignore the other guy who's not interfering with play stood in the 18 yard box just next to the 6 yard box.

 

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The above is the perfect example of why the old rules didn't make sense if you watch the live clip rather than a still picture, Zaha has absolutely no impact on any element of the goal he's not in the goalkeeper's sight, he's not even pulled a defender out of position through the build up.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, skadupuk said:

 

The above is the perfect example of why the old rules didn't make sense if you watch the live clip rather than a still picture, Zaha has absolutely no impact on any element of the goal he's not in the goalkeeper's sight, he's not even pulled a defender out of position through the build up.

 

 

 

 

I understand your point of view but the old rules were obvious to officials, players and fans. There was no interpretation. I'd refer to, I think, Brian Clough. If they're on the pitch, they're influencing the game. 

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3 minutes ago, neoELITE said:

 

I understand your point of view but the old rules were obvious to officials, players and fans. There was no interpretation. I'd refer to, I think, Brian Clough. If they're on the pitch, they're influencing the game. 

 

Like most things in football it's opinions, I'd agree there's an argument for both.

 

Interestingly, if we extrapolate your logic then would going back to no offside rule be the ideal?

 

No need to try and interpret when the ball left the foot vs the position of the attacker at the precise moment etc.

 

It would make for an interesting experiment, I know there's the whole historical "goal hanger" argument, but when you think of the pitch space it opens up it could be entertaining. 

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3 minutes ago, skadupuk said:

 

Like most things in football it's opinions, I'd agree there's an argument for both.

 

Interestingly, if we extrapolate your logic then would going back to no offside rule be the ideal?

 

No need to try and interpret when the ball left the foot vs the position of the attacker at the precise moment etc.

 

It would make for an interesting experiment, I know there's the whole historical "goal hanger" argument, but when you think of the pitch space it opens up it could be entertaining. 

 

That experiment is in full effect in League 2 right now. 

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