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6 minutes ago, bradigor said:

Chelsea opening City up at will right now. They need to make this count. 


;)

 

Chelsea have been magnificent so far. Happy to eat humble pie after thinking Lampard would struggle there. He’s still a fat, Tory bastard though.

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City really don't look confident at all against this Chelsea side. Still think City have many more gears to go through in this one and will be a different team in the second half. 

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9 minutes ago, ryodi said:

Aguero takes ages to leave the pitch and doesn't leave at the closest touchline. No booking. That rule lasted long.

 

The players make sure they're in the centre of the pitch. The rule should be changed to make the players run off, unless injured. If they don't run off, they get a yellow.

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7 minutes ago, Mr Do 71 said:

 

The players make sure they're in the centre of the pitch. The rule should be changed to make the players run off, unless injured. If they don't run off, they get a yellow.

 

Give them 10 seconds to get off the pitch. Have the timer on the screen in the stadium. The crowd can count down like they do during the Royale Rumble. If the player isn't off the pitch before the timer is up they have to come off and the sub coming on isn't allowed on. Sorted :coffee:

 

 

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Sniper with a tranq dart if they’re not off the pitch in time. Play goes on around them, it’s the only way to be sure.

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Still early days, but feels like the Top 4 is done already.

 

Chelsea's kids may run out of steam as may Leicester, but no signs on that at all at the moment for either team.

 

And at the moment - Wolves or Burnley look as likely to be challenging for 5th and 6th as the three usual other challengers.

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22 minutes ago, dr_manhattan^ said:

VAR can fuck off mate

 

I think VAR is getting a lot of flak for what is basically a weakness in the rules. Offside needs to be less black and white if VAR is going to adjudicate the tightest of tight calls.

 

How are the other leagues implementing VAR and offside? Surely it can't be a unique problem for the Premier League.

 

Maybe make it so that feet have to be offside rather than any scoring part? And maybe the player's entire foot? There has to be a solution.

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59 minutes ago, Adrock said:

Maybe make it so that feet have to be offside rather than any scoring part? And maybe the player's entire foot? There has to be a solution.

 

That's just moving the goal posts on what tiny detail they are going to be looking at though isn't it? We'd still get the same thing we do now with them measuring whether the entire foot is fully offside, or if it is on by a single millimeter. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ork1927 said:

Still early days, but feels like the Top 4 is done already.

 

Chelsea's kids may run out of steam as may Leicester, but no signs on that at all at the moment for either team.

 

And at the moment - Wolves or Burnley look as likely to be challenging for 5th and 6th as the three usual other challengers.

I think Tottenham will get their act together and get top 4 now, still 3rd best team with a very good manager, the meltdown will be in another 18 months

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Anyone remember Freddy Adu, once thought of as the next Pele?

 

He's been at 14 clubs.  Now 30, there's surely time to go on and be the most widely travelled journeyman footballer of all time.

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And 15 behind John Burridge, who amassed 29 different clubs during a career that saw him don the shirts of footballing heavyweights such as Enfield, Workington and Blyth Spartans. He did also spend time with Newcastle, Southampton, Sheffield United and Wolves.

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Aberdeen have been taken over by some Americans, and have some sort of link to Atlanta United (who are owned by a billionaire). Potentially big news for Scottish football. 

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57 minutes ago, deerokus said:

Aberdeen have been taken over by some Americans, and have some sort of link to Atlanta United (who are owned by a billionaire). Potentially big news for Scottish football. 


Still amazes me no one outside the Old Firm has won the Scottish league title since the mid-80s. Most leagues usually have the odd surprise or something of a cycle every few years. Almost four decades of dominance is laughable.

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26 minutes ago, glb said:


Still amazes me no one outside the Old Firm has won the Scottish league title since the mid-80s. Most leagues usually have the odd surprise or something of a cycle every few years. Almost four decades of dominance is laughable.

Hearts might have done it back in 2005 had their mental owner at the time not sacked the manager. 

 

The financial disparity is absolutely enormous really. Celtic are in the top twenty clubs in Europe by gate receipts. Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts can't ever compete with that. Rangers are a financial basket case and can't compete with Celtic financially any more but still have huge raw revenue compared to everyone else. 

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37 minutes ago, glb said:


Still amazes me no one outside the Old Firm has won the Scottish league title since the mid-80s. Most leagues usually have the odd surprise or something of a cycle every few years. Almost four decades of dominance is laughable.

 

While you don't have to go back as far in Ukraine, with Tavriya Simferopol winning the first title in 1991 before Shakhtar and Dynamo Kyiv shared the rest, it does make for a much higher percentage of 97% of all Ukrainian titles shared between just two clubs.

 

In Portugal, for a win outside the big three you only need to go back to 2001, but other than them the only other team to win in Portugal is Belenenses - in 1946. That's over 50 years of dominance shared between Benfica, Sporting and Porto.

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On 23/11/2019 at 19:45, Adrock said:

 

I think VAR is getting a lot of flak for what is basically a weakness in the rules. Offside needs to be less black and white if VAR is going to adjudicate the tightest of tight calls.

 

How are the other leagues implementing VAR and offside? Surely it can't be a unique problem for the Premier League.

 

Maybe make it so that feet have to be offside rather than any scoring part? And maybe the player's entire foot? There has to be a solution.

Offside is black and white though? If we let refs have some subjective judgement on it then it becomes even more vague like the other decisions VAR has been getting wrong. 

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9 hours ago, deerokus said:

Hearts might have done it back in 2005 had their mental owner at the time not sacked the manager. 

 

The financial disparity is absolutely enormous really. Celtic are in the top twenty clubs in Europe by gate receipts. Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts can't ever compete with that. Rangers are a financial basket case and can't compete with Celtic financially any more but still have huge raw revenue compared to everyone else. 

 

'Laughable' was probably the wrong word in my previous post having now looked at the history back to the league's inception. Rangers 54 titles, Celtic 50... next best is four apiece for Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs, and the latter two last won a title in the 1950s. Now see that any club breaking the duopoly would be seismic for the league.

 

9 hours ago, Fry Crayola said:

 

While you don't have to go back as far in Ukraine, with Tavriya Simferopol winning the first title in 1991 before Shakhtar and Dynamo Kyiv shared the rest, it does make for a much higher percentage of 97% of all Ukrainian titles shared between just two clubs.

 

In Portugal, for a win outside the big three you only need to go back to 2001, but other than them the only other team to win in Portugal is Belenenses - in 1946. That's over 50 years of dominance shared between Benfica, Sporting and Porto.

 

Portugal, SPL and Ukraine merger request! Suppose it makes England's five different champions in two decades look positively unpredictable.

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14 hours ago, deerokus said:

Aberdeen have been taken over by some Americans, and have some sort of link to Atlanta United (who are owned by a billionaire). Potentially big news for Scottish football. 

They have a new chairman too now Milne has fucked off. 

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12 hours ago, Stoppy2000 said:

Offside is black and white though?

 

An offside position is black and white. Determining whether or not the player is interfering with play is subjective, and in any case shades of grey in the position appear when you try to find the exact moment the ball was played forward, and check an offside position from a limited set of camera angles.

 

Verifying offside with VAR doesn't need to be perfect. If it isn't clear there's an offside from a quick viewing of the available angles, then give leeway to the attacker.

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