Thor 4: Love and Thunder - 2022

[Festoon]

8 minutes ago, Nick R said:

 

I agree that most MCU things have a similar tone to their comedy (the Whedon/Gunn/Black/Waititi films emphasise that side more, whereas a few like Black Panther and Eternals tone it down). But there have been some prominent exceptions where the leading men haven't been that sort of snarky quipper... in which case those lines have been given to supporting characters instead.

 

You're posting this in a Thor thread; even though The Dark World, Ragnarok and L&T were heavier on the comedy, very little of it came from Thor making quips. (It mostly came from his earnest oafishness - or, in Endgame, his fatness, LOL.)

 

Cap and Hawkeye had their deadpan one-liners, but they weren't trying to use snarkiness to be the centre of attention like Stark and Strange.

 

T'Challa and Shang-Chi mostly left the comic relief to Shuri and Katy.

 

The only one of the Eternals who could be described as a quipper was Kumail Nanjiani's character, and he ended up being one of the less prominent characters in that film.

 

It's all a very similar voice to the films, though. Roles like 'snarky quipper' and 'earnest guy' have just become rote, and the films blur into one another.

[Hanzo the Razor]

"Insert snarky quip here."

[Popo]

If Marvel Studios can introduce relatively niche characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy to a general audience and make a great success of it, in the way they have, I’m pretty confident they could do the same with any characters. 
 

I don’t think the problem is whether or not the characters are already well known or popular. They could equally introduce the Xmen, or Fantastic Four and make a grand hash of it - just look at the dog food Zack Snyder has been making out of DC’s prime cuts for years now, for a point of reference. 

 

I don’t think they will - they have too much good sense to make that error - and I think a general audience will happily watch a wider multiverse story arch so long as it’s well made and interesting. Unfortunately all they’ve produced so far on that front has been treading water. 

[Festoon]

2 hours ago, Popo said:

If Marvel Studios can introduce relatively niche characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy to a general audience and make a great success of it, in the way they have, I’m pretty confident they could do the same with any characters. 
 

I don’t think the problem is whether or not the characters are already well known or popular. They could equally introduce the Xmen, or Fantastic Four and make a grand hash of it - just look at the dog food Zack Snyder has been making out of DC’s prime cuts for years now, for a point of reference. 

 

I don’t think they will - they have too much good sense to make that error - and I think a general audience will happily watch a wider multiverse story arch so long as it’s well made and interesting. Unfortunately all they’ve produced so far on that front has been treading water. 

 

A big mistake is thinking of the characters (frankly, who gives a shit) over the actors. 

 

Nobody cares about the Marvel characters without proper, charismatic, actors. Even kids, who think they love the characters, I think respond more to the actor than they think.

[Popo]

50 minutes ago, Festoon said:

 

A big mistake is thinking of the characters (frankly, who gives a shit) over the actors. 

 

Nobody cares about the Marvel characters without proper, charismatic, actors. Even kids, who think they love the characters, I think respond more to the actor than they think.

I don’t disagree with you at all - bringing characters to life and making us love them is what good, charismatic actors have been doing since Chaplin.