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20 hours ago, Vimster said:

Anyone want to buy a load of MISTer gubbins without a DE10? At this rate I'll never get the damn board. 

I’d be interested. I only have the board a heat sync and the ram module. 

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Sorry if this has come up a thousand times...but what's the general consensus on best all round controller? Have used a SNES replica 8bitdo wired and wireless and seems to do a good job. I know you can get adaptors to enable original hardware but then do you need individual adaptors for each controller? Playing Sonic with a 'snes' controller feels a bit...dirty.

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3 minutes ago, Das said:

Sorry if this has come up a thousand times...but what's the general consensus on best all round controller? Have used a SNES replica 8bitdo wired and wireless and seems to do a good job. I know you can get adaptors to enable original hardware but then do you need individual adaptors for each controller? Playing Sonic with a 'snes' controller feels a bit...dirty.

 

8bitdo M30 2.4g

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I've found that I need two controllers: an 8bitdo Pro 2 for SNES layout games (and PSX now) and a Retro-bit 6 button megadrive/saturn pad for MD layout games (and Saturn ultimately). It just doesn't feel right having the diamond layout for MD games. I've also found that I don't massively care about BT vs 2.4GHz - there are latency effects in my aging reflexes that far outshadow any technological limitations. So I've managed to get rid of a wide array of dongles.

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42 minutes ago, Phantoon said:

PlayStation Classic pad is really good as a SNES style joypad. Very low lag.

This. I’ve boxed up my 8bitdo sfc30 and elecom classic controller adapter in lieu of this. 
 

I don’t play much mega drive but when I do it’s the retrobit usb mega drive controller. 
 

@Das look up the daemon bite triple adapter by timville. It uses an arduino as a controller adapter and takes snes, nes and mega drive originals. Latency is about a ms apparently. 

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My RetroBit went creaky and squeaky after about thirty hours of use.

 

I use a RaphNet adapter with OEM SFC controllers for Nintendo games if the M30 doesn’t feel genuine enough. I’ll be buying PSX RaphNets next.

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I looked and it was about 30usd for the kit and shipping. It’s all open source so you could build it all yourself. 
 

I’ve been toying with getting an arduino pro and just making a two snes port deamonbite.  
 

try this link https://github.com/timville85/DaemonBite-Retro-Controllers-USB and you can make some simpler cables just using an arduino and a cable extension. 

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5 hours ago, Dr_Dave said:

I've found that I need two controllers: an 8bitdo Pro 2 for SNES layout games (and PSX now) and a Retro-bit 6 button megadrive/saturn pad for MD layout games (and Saturn ultimately). It just doesn't feel right having the diamond layout for MD games. I've also found that I don't massively care about BT vs 2.4GHz - there are latency effects in my aging reflexes that far outshadow any technological limitations. So I've managed to get rid of a wide array of dongles.

 

Listen to this man. He makes sense.

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SNAC if you want lagless single-player purism at the cost of inconvenience. Arduino/Deamonbite if you can be arsed.

 

Otherwise RaphNet make the best off-the-shelf adapters for your OEM controllers.

 

Wireless protocol latency compounded with LCD tech is definitely perceptible when you directly compare with wired pads on a CRT.

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1 minute ago, Das said:

What about the Bluetooth version of the Saturn pad? No good?

 

Totally fine for me, as I have both (don't ask why), but if you want a "single pad that covers all the bases" then I suppose you want the one that also gives lower input lag?

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I have far too many controllers

 

SNES - Buffalo wired, 8BitDo, Nintendo Switch version 

Megadrive - 8bitdo M30 and Retrobit bluetooth

Saturn - Retrobit bluetooth and 2.4G

N64 - Retrobit wireless pad

PcEngine - 8BitDO one

 

Sticks - Hori fighting Edge, Dacon Naija, 8BitDo Arcade Stick

 

and Xbox, PS4, 8BitDo Pro 2

 

I love them all! I just like having a pad that is close to the original system I'm emulating. 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Das said:

I also have it and recommend. 
 

my controllers:

psx classic - main controller

retrobit mega drive 6 button blue

pc engine mini 

8bitdo sfc30

snes classic with elecom adapter 

wii classic pro with above adapter 

really cheap snes usb clone (which isn’t actually that bad)

emio snes classic with adapter (does snes classic controller to usb)

play sega usb saturn controller in official mk2 pad shell

 

i think that’s enough. Mainly I only use the psx classic controller. 

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19 hours ago, Das said:

 

An average measured latency of 1.010ms, providing a 93.94% same frame input probability. That's pretty grand.

 

Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KlRObr3Be4zLch7Zyqg6qCJzGuhyGmXaOIUrpfncXIM/edit#gid=0

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