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Wondered earlier why they hasn't been any update on the news of the release on the Final Cut version.

Developer ZA/UM head of publishing Mikk Metsniit posted this on Discord:

 

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So assume they are just going through all the platforms certifications etc to announce the date for all of them at once.

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I cannot fucking wait for this. I’ve been avoiding everything about it.

 

I was going to go Switch for portability reasons but I understand that version is coming later and might not run as well? I’ve got a PS4 and One X, so will just grab the cheapest version on those two I think.

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I was in exactly the right mood at the end of January to bury myself in a mostly dialogue-driven RPG, and came away tremendously impressed. I thought the quality of the writing really put most things I've ever played to shame - even reputably well-written games. I mean, I looked forward to just talking to characters, something I usually lose patience with very quickly in order to just get to the next bit of Game. I am a little worried about this full-speech version though, as I did come across some characters whose few spoken lines were performed so badly I can imagine reams of it breaking the experience a bit.

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Here's hoping the voice acting is better than the original (it was so bad I turned it off), and fully rerecorded with better equipment (audio quality was very poor).

 

Also, I hope they've taken the time to go through the English translation and fix the plethora of spelling and grammatical errors. 

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I’m so looking forward to this. Been suffering a bit of a gaming lull this year, despite having both next gen consoles and a load of games. 
 

And now I find out release date is when I break up for Easter. Excite! 
 

It will be £35 on the store apparently. Can’t see physical copies available yet. 

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6 hours ago, Thor said:

Here's hoping the voice acting is better than the original (it was so bad I turned it off), and fully rerecorded with better equipment (audio quality was very poor).

 

Also, I hope they've taken the time to go through the English translation and fix the plethora of spelling and grammatical errors. 

 

Cuno's VO was mixed very strangely. To the extent I found it literally painful to listen to. I could feel my inner ear doing that horrid spasmodic twitching it does during sharp audio onslaught. 

 

I'm not sure how I feel about full voice acting for every character, I honestly much preferred reading the enormous amounts of text in this game. I'm hoping they do a sequel 

 

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set in the Jamrock Major Crimes Unit with Harrier Dubois as your superior officer. I wanna see more of Revachol.

 

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6 hours ago, SM47 said:

 

Cuno's VO was mixed very strangely. To the extent I found it literally painful to listen to. I could feel my inner ear doing that horrid spasmodic twitching it does during sharp audio onslaught. 

 

I'm not sure how I feel about full voice acting for every character, I honestly much preferred reading the enormous amounts of text in this game. I'm hoping they do a sequel 

 

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set in the Jamrock Major Crimes Unit with Harrier Dubois as your superior officer. I wanna see more of Revachol.

 

 

Yeah, I'm the same, I like a little bit of VO to get the measure of a character before being able to read at my own speed.

 

The devs have talked about a sequel - some wild ideas out there, like making the player character a pregnant woman and exploring the ensuing chaos of voices in that particular interior world, but I'd put my money on it being a little less out there!

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Not sure what this means about the upgrade for PC owners in Australia but console owners here will be missing out.

 

https://www.artshub.com.au/news-article/news/digital/edmond-tran/critically-acclaimed-videogame-disco-elysium-refused-classification-in-australia-262156

 

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Disco Elysium, the highly-regarded role-playing game by independent Estonian developer ZA/UM has had its ‘director’s cut’ re-release, entitled The Final Cut, refused classification by the Classification Board of Australia.

First released in 2018 for PC platforms, the game drew immense critical acclaim due to its unique magical-realist scenario, exceptional writing, as well as an inventive depiction of the human mental psyche as a key interactive device. The game did not pass through the classification board during its initial release, likely due to the nature of its digital-only release on a global distribution platform.

The release of The Final Cut was to herald the game’s wider release on home consoles--PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch--and in turn, its arrival on domestic digital storefronts.

The Australian Classification Board states the reason for Refused Classification as follows: 

Games 1(a): The computer game is classified RC in accordance with the National Classification Code, Computer Games Table, 1. (a) as computer games that “depict, express or otherwise deal with matters of sex, drug misuse or addiction, crime, cruelty, violence or revolting or abhorrent phenomena in such a way that they offend against the standards of morality, decency and propriety generally accepted by reasonable adults to the extent that they should not be classified

In Disco Elysium, the player is given the option to alter the unnamed protagonist’s mind with unique capabilities and abstract modes of thought, which affect how he interacts with other characters and the world around him. These range from fortifying the character’s skills in Rhetoric, Visual Calculus, Empathy, or the curiously named ‘Inland Empire’, to equipping him with abilities like 'Advanced Race Theory', 'Rigorous Self-Critique', or an 'Actual Art Degree'.

The protagonist is also initially depicted as someone who is a self-loathing drug and alcohol abuser, and the player can, if they choose, steer them back into this abusive behaviour which provides both benefits and detriments.

 

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Alternatively, I advise avoiding any and all videos explaining anything about the game, as much of the joy of it comes from discovery and experimentation.

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On 19/03/2021 at 08:46, Unofficial Who said:

Not sure what this means about the upgrade for PC owners in Australia but console owners here will be missing out.

 

https://www.artshub.com.au/news-article/news/digital/edmond-tran/critically-acclaimed-videogame-disco-elysium-refused-classification-in-australia-262156

 

 

 

Yup, came to post the same. BANNED IN AUSTRALIA!

www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-03-21-australian-classification-board-says-disco-elysium-the-final-cut-is-too-offensive-to-go-on-sale

 

Not gonna lie. I didn't have too much interest in this, since it seems to be mainly about story and not raw pure spreadsheet mechanics, but now that it's banned in Australia I want to play it.

 

In fairness though, Fallout 3 was also banned due to the fact you can administer medicines to your self, and they have a weird and very strong opposition to any game where you can self-medicate (I seem to recall reading). So it's not exactly hard to get banned in Australia.

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Isn't most of the issue with games in Oz that they don't have an 18 certificate equivalent? So anything above a 15 or whatever just isn't allowed?

 

EDIT: Just checked, and sort of. They have an R18, which basically means nobody can sell it unless it's a sex shop or something.

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2 hours ago, deKay said:

Isn't most of the issue with games in Oz that they don't have an 18 certificate equivalent? So anything above a 15 or whatever just isn't allowed?

 

EDIT: Just checked, and sort of. They have an R18, which basically means nobody can sell it unless it's a sex shop or something.

 

 

We've had R18 for a while, the two big things that will get your game banned are some depictions of sexual assault (Hotline Miami 2 fell foul of this) and drug use in a way that might promote their use. (This is why Fallout 3 uses fake drug names.)

 

This ban is weird. Because usually these bans are concise and will go through step by step through the offending material to inform consumers and to explain to developers what they need to change to release it here.

 

So here's the decision. https://www.classification.gov.au/titles/disco-elysium-final-cut

 

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Games 1(a): The computer game is classified RC in accordance with the National Classification Code, Computer Games Table, 1. (a) as computer games that "depict, express or otherwise deal with matters of sex, drug misuse or addiction, crime, cruelty, violence or revolting or abhorrent phenomena in such a way that they offend against the standards of morality, decency and propriety generally accepted by reasonable adults to the extent that they should not be classified."

 

And....nothing else.

 

So what does that mean for Steam users in Australia?

 

-Do they just not get the Final Cut?

-Do they just lose the ability to buy the game?

-Do they lose the ability to play the game?

 

And here's the worst case scenario. Do they keep the ability to play the game yet have to remove the game from their PCs themselves and not play it because it's now an RC product?

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I got Disco Elysium for free on Epic. Installed it a long time ago but never really got around to play it until today. 

 

A massive thank you to the person/people who wrote it. I'm only about 45-ish minutes into the game and its like reliving parts of my past. I think Disco Elysium is a beautiful game. There are soft clues and minor details that really hits home. It tells me the creators(s) know what they are talking about.

 

Its like being in a pitch black room, and Disco Elysium opens up the door just enough for a few rays of sunshine to reach my heart, thawing it. 

 

 

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I have appreciated games for 35 years, but I do belive that this is the first time I have experienced video game art. Thank you. 

 

 

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Anyone know if/when the Final Cut edition will be getting reviews, surprised none have come out yet (can't see anything about a potential date for the embargo to be lifted either). I know if just a update but as its the first time on a console I would have assumed there would be new reviews for this updated edition.

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Some streamers have it early and I tuned in a bit. I think it's going to be a case of YMMV on the voice work, some of it is definitely not working out for me. Having said that, I'm not sure this is a game I'd replay anyway. It was so much about investing myself in the world and characters, and being genuinely gripped by the story and its ideas, that I'm not sure I'd get anything out of re-treading it.

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