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7 minutes ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

It would be great if so and lots of people are assuming Bloodborne 2, but From is about to launch a multiplatform title. One that is most likely to also appear on Ps5 and NextBox. There's no way in hell they're going to fuck themselves over by doing a Bloodborne 2 or whatever PS5 exclusive anytime soon.

 

Agreed. But if Bloodborne 2 magically appeared from somewhere as launch PS5 I'd be in very, very serious trouble. 

 

Besides, I reckon we'll see a Bloodborne remaster with reinstated bosses and content before that.

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Just now, PeteBrant said:

The conclusions people are drawing are properly funny .

 

Ah, speculation and hyperbole is what E3 is all about. I mean, it is only January but still, super happy fun times \o/

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After E3 people online frothing at XbsX being dah winna.

Sony drops BB2 video over on YouTube. Oh shit Sony just dun wun.

Nintendo does an impromptu Tree-house with MP4 real time footage.

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The video game pendulum keeps a swinging.

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Remember when Dreamcast struggled to compete with the PS2, and the PS2 hadn't even launched? The PS2 promised an 'emotion engine' and could accurately simulate wood, iron filings and ice?  DC was described as a meal you can eat between Playstations without ruining your appetite? Then PS2 launched with a preorder campaign, hardware shortages due to the power of the emotion engine and Iraq buying them to use as super computers. Buy the time the PS2 actually launched it had already won.

 

With 2 consoles about to launch, my guess is that Sony is going to be second to market. Just as Dreamcast suffered by comparison to what the PS2 might be, Sony will leave Microsoft to do whatever they want at E3, Microsoft will 'win' E3, but Sony will keep the mysterious PS5 under wraps, create the impression that there's something way better than Xbox around the corner, and build so much hype that people won't rush out to buy Xbox until they have seen the PS5 and compared.

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2 minutes ago, moosegrinder said:

 

Agreed. But if Bloodborne 2 magically appeared from somewhere as launch PS5 I'd be in very, very serious trouble. 

 

Besides, I reckon we'll see a Bloodborne remaster with reinstated bosses and content before that.

Well, I was all set to buy a NextBox first and PS5 later but thanks to that Game Pass deal the money I've been setting aside to buy games alongside the console can now be put toward a PS5 :D So thanks Microsoft for allowing me to be able to afford both consoles day one! :lol: Therefore if Bloodborne 2 unexpectedly reveals itself, I'm set!

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42 minutes ago, rafaqat said:

 

Possibly.  I mean they've been drubbed in the last few by MS.


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3 minutes ago, dumpster said:

Remember when Dreamcast struggled to compete with the PS2, and the PS2 hadn't even launched? The PS2 promised an 'emotion engine' and could accurately simulate wood, iron filings and ice?  

 

With 2 consoles about to launch, my guess is that Sony is going to be second to market. Just as Dreamcast suffered by comparison to what the PS2 might be, Sony will leave Microsoft to do whatever they want at E3, Microsoft will 'win' E3, but Sony will keep the mysterious PS5 under wraps, create the impression that there's something way better than Xbox around the corner, and build so much hype that people won't rush out to buy Xbox until they have seen the PS5 and compared.

That would work so much better if it didn't look like they're going to launch around the same time, both consoles using very similar hardware, and for now everyone assuming that the XseX is more powerful. But otherwise, yes 

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21 minutes ago, PeteBrant said:

The conclusions people are drawing are properly funny .

Well yes, it could be something as mundane as Sony not seeing any real sales benefit from attending E3 and that it's simply more cost effective to do their own thing throughout the year or it could indeed be that they don't want any negativity from having a less powerful box than MS and would prefer to control that in a tighter environment. Hey, they could even have the most insanely powerful box of tricks that needs its own unhindered spotlight. A mix of those perhaps even.

 

I think no-one here is privy to what's going on deep in the bowels of Sony so speculation as to why they aren't attending the biggest video game show on earth in console launch year is valid, especially on a game forum. It's fun.

 

Until a company comes right out and explains its reasons then it's game for speculation.

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1 hour ago, dumpster said:

Remember when Dreamcast struggled to compete with the PS2, and the PS2 hadn't even launched? The PS2 promised an 'emotion engine' and could accurately simulate wood, iron filings and ice?  DC was described as a meal you can eat between Playstations without ruining your appetite? Then PS2 launched with a preorder campaign, hardware shortages due to the power of the emotion engine and Iraq buying them to use as super computers. Buy the time the PS2 actually launched it had already won.

 

With 2 consoles about to launch, my guess is that Sony is going to be second to market. Just as Dreamcast suffered by comparison to what the PS2 might be, Sony will leave Microsoft to do whatever they want at E3, Microsoft will 'win' E3, but Sony will keep the mysterious PS5 under wraps, create the impression that there's something way better than Xbox around the corner, and build so much hype that people won't rush out to buy Xbox until they have seen the PS5 and compared.

 

Nope, Was too busy enjoying the Dreamcast games to listen to obvious pie in the sky marketing.

 

Great times.

 

The second paragraph is weird fan fiction. 2/10

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2 hours ago, Boozy The Clown said:

 

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Hopefully see more funny pics comes E3. It's what makes the madness so much fun.  :)

 

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With everything else Sony nick from Nintendo is only a matter of time before they make a Sony Direct with the same status as a Nintendo one.

 

But I suspect they are trying to pull a Boris Johnson, this new generation 'election' is theirs to lose. If they've the weaker console, and not to much to show for the near term, then like Boris, you can get bad PR amongst those following the events by not turning up, but the general populace don’t notice and you still win. 

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4 hours ago, carlospie said:

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2 hours ago, PeteBrant said:

The conclusions people are drawing are properly funny .

 

Totally. Reminds me of what's occuring at Baeselworld, which is a watch trade show which has been given the same prominence as E3 in the Videogame world.

 

Over the years, more and more watch makers had been leaving Basel citing insane costs to put on a show there, limited time on stands and countless other nagatives. Eventually, one of the big watch makers pulled out and slowly the show has started to die.

 

When they were interviewed by the press askign why they pulled out, they said it cost them a fortune to put on a 1 week show at the festival, the public were not allowed in so it was just trade, they had limited time to do deals and nowadays, they can launch a PR campaign themselves with Twitter, Instagram etc, all their fans see it, they can directly interact with them and the cost for all of this? $0.

 

I'm guessing Sony are slowly comming to the same conclusions.

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Switching from 360 to PS4 last gen was a no brainer, there was no back compatibility, no reason to hang onto Xbox, especially as it was more expensive and not as powerful.

 

This gen? If PS5 plays my entire PS4 collection out the box and I can plug in my current VR headset it's already a done deal.

 

Surely now it's just the matter of which ecosystem you've invested in moreso than anything else when it comes to next-gen? As well as the games, I don't want to leave £300 worth of accessories aside (VR, Move and Dual Shock Controllers, Chargers,  PS+ Library, Gold Headset, TES+ Arcade Stick etc) either.

 

I'd imagine an Xbox user with game pass paid up probably feels the same.

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3 hours ago, amc said:

Well yes, it could be something as mundane as Sony not seeing any real sales benefit from attending E3 and that it's simply more cost effective to do their own thing throughout the year or it could indeed be that they don't want any negativity from having a less powerful box than MS and would prefer to control that in a tighter environment. Hey, they could even have the most insanely powerful box of tricks that needs its own unhindered spotlight. A mix of those perhaps even.

 

I think no-one here is privy to what's going on deep in the bowels of Sony so speculation as to why they aren't attending the biggest video game show on earth in console launch year is valid, especially on a game forum. It's fun.

 

Until a company comes right out and explains its reasons then it's game for speculation.

 

Sony are not the only company skipping E3, they are just the biggest company skipping E3. In the 21st century, the idea that everything has to be focused on a single annual trade-focused conference is laughably quaint. 

 

E3 won't be around by 2030.

 

37 minutes ago, Wools said:

 

Totally. Reminds me of what's occuring at Baeselworld, which is a watch trade show which has been given the same prominence as E3 in the Videogame world.

 

Over the years, more and more watch makers had been leaving Basel citing insane costs to put on a show there, limited time on stands and countless other nagatives. Eventually, one of the big watch makers pulled out and slowly the show has started to die.

 

When they were interviewed by the press askign why they pulled out, they said it cost them a fortune to put on a 1 week show at the festival, the public were not allowed in so it was just trade, they had limited time to do deals and nowadays, they can launch a PR campaign themselves with Twitter, Instagram etc, all their fans see it, they can directly interact with them and the cost for all of this? $0.

 

I'm guessing Sony are slowly comming to the same conclusions.

 

This is the reason. E3 is no longer fit for purpose.

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1 hour ago, Isaac said:

 

Sony are not the only company skipping E3, they are just the biggest company skipping E3. In the 21st century, the idea that everything has to be focused on a single annual trade-focused conference is laughably quaint. 

 

Where in my post do I say everything has to be focused around E3? I'm saying it's fun to speculate the reasons for Sony not attending the show. They are myriad, they could be due to E3 being on it's last legs and Sony are leading the charge to ditch, it could be because they don't want to go up against a more powerful console, it could be any number of reasons and a mix of several. These reasons are only known to Sony at this time. It's just speculation. It's what goes on on specialist forums like this, I thought this was the type of stuff we chatted about. It's just a bit of fun. It's certainly got me wondering what Sony has up its sleeve to not want to attend. Will they have lots of little reveals or more than usual at least, will they be going the Nintendo route etc.

 

And at the time of posting, E3, faults and all, is still a big event for gaming. It might not be the case further down the line but it's still a relevant show at this time. But yeah, Sony not attending two years in a row does show E3 is likely to be in trouble as an event going forward. Perhaps they needed to listen more, charge less etc. More speculation. YeHaa!

 

Laughably quaint. Jesus.

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It makes sense for Sony, and perhaps others to showcase upcoming Consoles/games at various conventions. like, Gamescom 2020, Tokyo games show, PAX.

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Haven't Sony already started doing "Nintendo Directs"? I though tthey started last year?

 

I bet they'll drop one at the time of most inconvenience to Microsoft.

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5 hours ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

It would be great if so and lots of people are assuming Bloodborne 2, but From is about to launch a multiplatform title. One that is most likely to also appear on Ps5 and NextBox. There's no way in hell they're going to fuck themselves over by doing a Bloodborne 2 or whatever PS5 exclusive anytime soon.

 

Demon's Souls remake. :)

As for E3:


It's dead, Jim.

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1 hour ago, amc said:

It's just speculation. It's what goes on on specialist forums like this, I thought this was the type of stuff we chatted about. It's just a bit of fun.

 

Is it, though? It seems to end up with people getting awfully het up and calling each other cocksuckers and so on very quickly.

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1 hour ago, Vemsie said:

As for E3:


It's dead, Jim.

 

I don''t think that gives the full picture.

 

E3 still has a relevance when the individual conferences can reach a streaming audience of 1.5+ million gamers. For a single gaming event none of the others throught the year get anywhere near that figure.

 

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Well, this is what an NPD analist says.
 

 


Hosting your own event whenever you want is probably just as effective, if not more so.

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