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Is anyone else watching it on Sky Atlantic?

 

Based on a Stephen King novel (which I haven't read) and starring Ben Mendelsohn and Jason Bateman. Its riveting stuff so far and is up to the usual HBO standards. Not sure if its going to go supernatural or not at this stage.

 

From what I've seen so far, definitely recommended

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Yeah, I'm watching it. I have read the book and they're doing a very good job so far, though I'm puzzled at what the next 8 eps are going to cover as they've done about 1/3rd of the book in the first 2 eps alone!

Noticed that Jason Bateman directed the first episodes too, was impressed.

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I bought the book a couple of years ago and finally got round to reading it before Christmas and yeah, this is actually really good. 

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Not read the book cos I don't read books without pictures anymore but this was pretty bloody good telly tbh. 

 

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4 hours ago, Glasgowchivas said:

Yeah, I'm watching it. I have read the book and they're doing a very good job so far, though I'm puzzled at what the next 8 eps are going to cover as they've done about 1/3rd of the book in the first 2 eps alone!

 

I’ve ve only watched episode 1 so far, but thought the same thing. Very impressed by the first episode though. My wife was hooked too, although she kept asking me questions knowing I’ve read the book.

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Always wanted a show about a loaf.

 

 

 

....I will get my coat. 

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Watched first two episodes and this is top TV so far, love how procedural it is. Feels like a new season of True Detective crossed with Making A Murderer. That guy off Rogue One is excellent! 

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Episode 3

 

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This has taken a real turn for the worst, actually gutted after such a strong opening to the show. Felt like the Stephen King-ness was turned up to 11. Went from creepy but grounded to silly X-files nonsense this week.

 

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3 hours ago, Chadruharazzeb said:

Don't suppose this is on NowTV, is it? 

Yep, first three episodes, in line with what's been shown on Sky

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24 minutes ago, LaveDisco said:

Really enjoyed episode 1! 

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Who was the creepy guy watching the house?

 

I'm sure we'll find out.

Episode 3 spoiler

 

So the bad cop has now been 'cut' just like Terry Maitland was I assume. I'm guessing the child killer in the prison was also affected by this method as well.

 

Really enjoying the series so far but my god the video quality is shocking. It's like watching a pirate rip on SKY HD.

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19 hours ago, SpagMasterSwift said:

Episode 3

 

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This has taken a real turn for the worst, actually gutted after such a strong opening to the show. Felt like the Stephen King-ness was turned up to 11. Went from creepy but grounded to silly X-files nonsense this week.

 

 

Well I'm still gripped, although I hope the reveal doesn't disappoint after all the tension building.

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Yeah, I’m not out it was just a big change probably partly due to the change in director (the actor who did the first two rocked it - I guess he learned a lot on Ozark) and the switch from it being from the perspective of the main guy to bringing in the wider story. 

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Latest episode felt like a bit of a filler and devoting so much time to the private detective feels like they tricked me into watching a different show than was promised in the first two episodes - Next week needs to be good!

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5 hours ago, SpagMasterSwift said:

Latest episode felt like a bit of a filler and devoting so much time to the private detective feels like they tricked me into watching a different show than was promised in the first two episodes - Next week needs to be good!

Have to agree with this. Feels like it's suffering from the soporific bloat that you often find in Netflix shows. Enjoying it but quite a few scenes drag and go on for longer than necessary. 

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After the latest episode I’m very much off the boil, I’d love to know what went wrong with this show or if it’s just a case of subpar directors and actors stepping in to stretch out the budget. But right now it’s pretty rubbish. I’ll keep watching of course cos I’m an idiot.

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I take it none of you have read the book, because I'm finding it pretty faithful to it, so far.

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On 17/01/2020 at 12:46, Glasgowchivas said:

Yeah, I'm watching it. I have read the book and they're doing a very good job so far, though I'm puzzled at what the next 8 eps are going to cover as they've done about 1/3rd of the book in the first 2 eps alone!

Noticed that Jason Bateman directed the first episodes too, was impressed.

 

I'm still enjoying it - there's not a single actor in it who isn't "watchable" even if the episode in question is filler  - but I was right when I said this a few weeks ago!

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I found last weeks episode the weakest when different historic events were being linked up, slightly too quickly and apparently. 

 



The super natural reveal explanation is slightly disappointing, but there's still plenty of nuance involved and all actors and direction keeps me gripped. 

 

I would guess that there is more than one force of evil in play here

 

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7 hours ago, SpagMasterSwift said:

Take it to the book thread four eyes!

 

But, no I’ve not. Was it well received?

No idea. Its A King book isn't it? I think critical response is for other authors. 

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I’m really trying with this. Everything lines up perfectly on paper and it’s executed well. But... well, it’s a bit boring, isn’t it. The same people have been doing the same things for 6 episodes without really moving the story along much. The audience seems to know more than the characters (it’s a creepy thing! There’s a creepy thing going on!) which makes it more inert and frustrating than anything else.  The Guardian called it CSI on tranquillisers and I can’t shake the tranquilliser part of the analogy. It’s very lifeless. 

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I gave up after episode 3. 

 

Its frustrating because it really starts itself off with an air of Season 1 of True Detective but in actual fact, its clearly far closer to an episode of Goosebumps.

 

Its hard to write that because True Detective s1 is a hard summit to even get near let alone achieve. Everyone involved in this show should be congratulated.  It was something where everything worked perfectly. The music, the acting the directing,  the cop endlessly orbiting round some of the worst human instincts imaginable, but is then propelled into a mystery of uncovering the truth of the crime itself. It all here. Until its not. 


I don't get it quite honestly. I don't get Stephen Kings story telling or having the elements hes chosen to run together, run together to be frank. I've not read The Outsider but i'm guessing it reads like a stream of consciousness where if at any point he writes himself into a corner there can always be a spooky thing to pop up and throw all the pieces in the air again. I don't get the thought process. Its just "and then, and then, and then" type storytelling,  it wastes the viewers time and when the story plot points finally do start to come together, in this utterly grounded and realistic world of investigative police methodology and procedure, it ultimately defeats itself to serve as nothing more than interesting backdrop in the face of

Spoiler

 

"a spook did it". 

 

I love the x-files so i don't know why that works and this doesn't. Stephen king is like the author equivalent of the "i'm not saying it was aliens but it was totally aliens" guy. He writes utterly believable worlds but is happy to just demolish them for schlock entertainment. 

 

 

Disappointing and disingenuous to the subject matter but really at the end of the day its just boring.

 

 

 

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Tangentially related, I’ve not read the Outsider, but I am up to date with the show. Thought I’d read the Bill Hodges books to find out a bit more on Holly, and was surprised reading the first two to discover that they were pretty straight detective novels. Now I’m reading the third one, and it’s suddenly gone all X-files, which is a bit disconcerting. 
 

Does anyone know if readers at the time were a bit thrown by this sudden change in direction? 

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