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2 hours ago, Spicyhotpepper said:

What is the combat like in this? I've played Origins and own Odyssey (though I have yet to play that outside of the prologue), but have been disappointed that the actual fighting is very bare-bones.

 

Im hoping against hope that this finally introduces combos and stuff, but I suspect it doesn't? 

 

Worse than either Origins or Odyssey. It's very button-mashy. Stealth or indeed any kind of subtlety is basically impossible for about the first 30 hours of the game until you unlock a bunch of abilities and until that point everyone just swarms you as soon as you get spotted.

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I actually think the less subtle combat helps when you're in a raid - I really like the utter chaos.

 

Ultimately, I agree that it's not as satisfying overall compared to Odyssey, but I'm "only" 50 hours in so still plenty of time to gain more abilities.

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19 minutes ago, Garwoofoo said:

 

Worse than either Origins or Odyssey. It's very button-mashy. Stealth or indeed any kind of subtlety is basically impossible for about the first 30 hours of the game until you unlock a bunch of abilities and until that point everyone just swarms you as soon as you get spotted.

That's possibly not a bad thing, as I hate stealth :D But no X, X, Y type combo stuff going on, no?

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2 hours ago, Spicyhotpepper said:

That's possibly not a bad thing, as I hate stealth :D But no X, X, Y type combo stuff going on, no?

 

Not really. You've got a light attack and a strong attack and a shield parry, plus a bunch of slottable abilities, but it's not a particularly sophisticated combat system. I guess it kind of fits the theme though.

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On 20/07/2022 at 14:37, Spicyhotpepper said:

That's possibly not a bad thing, as I hate stealth :D But no X, X, Y type combo stuff going on, no?

 

There are no fighting game style combos in Valhalla but there are combos. It all depends on your build, but there's a big difference between a 1h weapon + a shield versus a 2h weapon. Each type of weapon have their own move sets and all depending on your activated skills you can chain some pretty satisfying combos together by alternating between light and heavy attacks and then finishing off with one (or more) skill moves. Once you get in the zone you can actually dance around a big group of enemies taking them down little by little in a long, dance like brawl which pretty much can see you pulling off endless combos. 

 

Have a look at this video to get a general overview of the combat system but bear in mind that this video is based on the early game and doesn't include some of the more unique weapons unlocked in the latter half of the game, nor does it include the really juicy skills you may unlock: 
 

 

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1 minute ago, SeanR said:

There’s this too

you can pick up / catch / throw weapons when you have the skill enabled
 

 

 

 

Yeah, the Throw Weapon skill is fantastic, especially in large battles as it's insanely OP. If you've got +crit runes equipped on your gear, the Throw Weapon damage can more often than not oneshot even the Elite guards. 

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13 minutes ago, moosegrinder said:

I'm 8 hours in but still I. My (admittedly upgraded)starter gear. What's all this in the talent trees about Wolf and Bear aligned gear?


fighting styles, and buffs. 
 

Bear - fighter

Raven - thief

Wolf - ranger

 

but at level 525 I’m pretty balanced, you know? You might say over-powered even

 

Spoiler

 

 

everything just works

 

I use wolf weapons in bear armour (not the best one, just the prettiest),with a raven deathskald light bow. 
 

and seemingly random rune useage.

 

I leave gear I’m not using with the runes in place, I don’t move it around.

 

new gear? Spare runes…

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22 minutes ago, moosegrinder said:

I'm 8 hours in but still I. My (admittedly upgraded)starter gear. What's all this in the talent trees about Wolf and Bear aligned gear?

 

To be honest, don't pay too much attention to the specific paths you can take in the skill tree, just look around when you have points to use and unlock what you think sounds best for your style of play, or try to find a path that leads down to something that sounds essential to you. 

 

In the end, if you stick with the game that is, you'll have all skills unlocked anyway. 

 

Even with weapons you're better off sticking to something you like the feel of. Should a different kind of weapon drop with much better stats and you don't like the feel of it, don't use it. Scrap it for mats and use the mats to upgrade your excisting weapon(s) at a blacksmith. 

 

I'm currently close to power level 600 and still use a scythe I picked up when I was around level 220 and it's still not fully upgraded and nothing has come close to beating it, stat wise. With the runes I'm using with the scythe, it has a high chance of setting enemies on fire, inflict crit damage as well as healing me. 

 

It's highly likely that there are many weapons that are better than the one I'm using, at least stats wise, but none have felt this good to use, for me, which is why I'm sticking with it. 

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2 hours ago, moosegrinder said:

Right ok. I've not had much gear drop, or do you have to buy it? I'm not sure how the loot system works and I can't remember what it was like in Odyssey.


Stuff either drops randomly but your safest bet is looting treasure chests, wether they're from enemy camps, castles/strongholds or caves. I think the best way to play Valhalla is to just relax and explore, don't feel pressured to chase a new quest just as you've completed one. Get to know your camp as soon as it's set up in England and for the love of God don't bother with the River Raid missions, they demand far too much time with little in return. 

 

Little by little you'll start to claim the counties that are around your camp and you'll end up in London. This is where the game is beginning to shape up and from there things should make a lot more sense. 

 

Just take your time. 

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1 hour ago, SeanR said:

I’ve added ragnarok dlc to my wish list, there’s no way I’m paying £33 for it.

 

Not sure what platform you are on, but yeah,  that is mad considering you can get the PS5 base game and the expansion for £28, (Disc)

 

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I started Origins again on PS5 to check out the 60fps update. I love all the new games in the series but the combat and stealth was best in Origins. It just got to over the top in Valhalla, and stealth was much poorer too. 

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I’ve put an ungodly number of hours into this (4 areas of England left, haven’t touched Druids or Paris) but (and it maybe rose tinted glasses) it feels like everything is just a bit worse than Odyessy?

 

On the other hand - Star Unicorn!!!!

 

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6 hours ago, Hexx said:

I’ve put an ungodly number of hours into this (4 areas of England left, haven’t touched Druids or Paris) but (and it maybe rose tinted glasses) it feels like everything is just a bit worse than Odyessy?

 

On the other hand - Star Unicorn!!!!

 

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it’s the atmosphere 

 

egypt was incredibly sunny

greece, incredibly sunny


everything was so bright and positive.

 

norway snow

england muddy

ireland leans into the mystical

 

oppressive and dank

 

even 

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The modern times bits have an issue with sunlight…

 

France though, the siege of Paris… there were times when it felt like the AC2 ezio trilogy.

From the architecture to the narrative.


All very… familiar.

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On 23/07/2022 at 22:28, SeanR said:

I’m

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paladin armoured

up now.

 

might have to downgrade all my unused gear to fund the whistles and bells on this one…


 

downgrading requires money. But I spent it all on upgrades…

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7 hours ago, Hexx said:

I’ve put an ungodly number of hours into this (4 areas of England left, haven’t touched Druids or Paris) but (and it maybe rose tinted glasses) it feels like everything is just a bit worse than Odyessy?

 

Maybe you should take a break from the vanilla game and do the Druid DLC next, as far as I remember there was a power lvl 55 requirement for that. Things are a bit more focused and direct in the DLC and might give you a boost to the commitment scale. There are some really cool weapons to find in Ireland as well. 

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