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Finally managed to get a few hours of Anno 1800.

 

Having never played one the very start was completely perplexing. The game didn’t pop up any instructions about that to click or do. After 10 minutes of literally nothing I was fuming and quit to restart. On the second try it actually instructed me to use right click to move.

 

The next two hours were much much more fun! Really enjoying the gameplay loop even if I{m struggling to get my finances positive. Having learnt a bit it might be time to start a second game

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I am enjoying my PC so far and it is comfortably putting my original PS4 to shame in the performance scales.  However, it is annoying to have to faff with so many launchers.  I don't mind having Steam and Epic launchers (not much on Origin for me).  However, it is annoying buying a game through Epic only to find out I have to also register for Uplay too.

 

Is there a way that Farcry 5 would launch from the Epic front end and open uplay rather than having it sat in my systray all the time?  Its the same with Valorant's anti-cheat thing too.

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Yep at one point earlier I was installing a few things and prepping to play Anno after a mission in Gear Tactics. I ended up with Xbox, Steam, Epic and Uplay running. What a fucking mess. None of it makes my life better. None of them offer what I’d really call a good experience. As someone who does enjoy the achievement loop along with stats like time played, having it scattered all over frustrates.

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11 minutes ago, 5R7 said:

yep, every company wants its own launcher, and yep, we have all over countless years expressed how fucking annoying it is. as they are all shit compared  to steam.

 

Try GOG Galaxy 2.0, you can use it to launch and collate games from each in one.

https://www.gogalaxy.com/en/

 


Even steam is a frustratingly bloated thing these days imo. Badges, cards, market place, profiles, activity, store, community pages, streaming. It all sort of has a place but it’s become quite messy to me.

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1 hour ago, 5R7 said:

yep, every company wants its own launcher, and yep, we have all over countless years expressed how fucking annoying it is. as they are all shit compared  to steam.

 

Try GOG Galaxy 2.0, you can use it to launch and collate games from each in one.

https://www.gogalaxy.com/en/

 

 

It should be noted that it will still open the host platform (so, Uplay will still launch in the Far Cry 5 example), so even Galaxy isn't actually doing anything to save system resources in that respect - you'll still have something in the system tray.

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I always launch Task Manager a couple of times throughout the day, just to kill off any unwanted shit, only takes a few seconds. I have start up as lean as possible and close any launcher after use. Probably a little unnecessary in these days of 32Gb of RAM, SSDs and many, many core CPUs but old habits die hard.

 

I have software from my motherboard vendor that supposedly optimizes my background programmes and processes for gaming, never tried it mind, do that myself with TM. Kill those launchers after use. Fucking hogs.

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It's worth periodically checking your Startup Apps in System Settings, just to make sure you're not trying to load anything you don't need in the background. The latest Windows update added Skype, and the various game launchers will auto-run given half the chance.

 

I've just joined the new PC club, as it's been eight years since I built my last one (barring graphics card upgrades). The previous machine is still sound as it's got a GTX 1080, but was starting to show its age with games which require a bit more heft from the CPU - AC Odyssey was noticably suffering from freezes and stutter even at 1080p and medium settings.

 

Anyway, I've gone from an i5-3570K with GTX 1080 to a Ryzen 3700X with RTX 2070 SUPER, tucked into a SFF case. The old machine has been donated to my wife for Sims 4 purposes. Everybody wins!

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I was using GOG Galaxy as a “launcher launcher” but in the end I found the best purpose for that was when I wasn’t sure what to play, so I could browse my library in one place. 
When it comes to launching games, I just use the required launcher and when I’m finished, make sure that launcher is closed. 
 

Steam, Origin, Epic, Twitch Prime, Ubisoft, Oculus... potentially Rockstar and Bethesda. What a nightmare! That’s more than the number of retro consoles I have?!

 

Edit: I forgot the Xbox beta app as well!

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1 hour ago, simms said:

Lol after buying a £1500+ pc (10700k and 2070 super) I've become hooked on FTL which is something that a zx spectrum could run.


At least you started playing a game that was worth monetary value at point of purchase during some point! Think about all those big boy rigs at eSports events running League and DOTA. :coffee:

As for launchers, I just fuck with Steam and X-Box Game Pass at the moment. I did have all the other launchers including GOG Galaxy, but I had to reinstall Windows. At the end of the day, I'll install a launcher if there's a game I want to play and subsequently remove them from starting up when I turn my system on, and these days a lot of the games that require separate launchers are from companies I wouldn't want to play games from anyway (Bethesda, Ubi).

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For that price I'd be going to a specialist rather than Currys because anything in Currys will have corners cut elsewhere.

 

For instance in that particular spec (if accurate) it has no standard USB3 at all, tells me nothing about its motherboard or power supply and claims (almost certainly wrongly) to only support 2 monitors.

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28 minutes ago, Dudley said:

For that price I'd be going to a specialist rather than Currys because anything in Currys will have corners cut elsewhere.

 

For instance in that particular spec (if accurate) it has no standard USB3 at all, tells me nothing about its motherboard or power supply and claims (almost certainly wrongly) to only support 2 monitors.

I know it's neither here nor there and totally agree about the poor specs information but that graphics card has USB 3 functionality built into it by way of a USB C port. It can actually be used for connecting USB 3 peripherals too, SSD etc although it's included as a means of connecting VR.

 

But like I say that's semantics and yup that machine is overpriced. You could get a 2080Ti from a more PC specialised retailer for that amount of money, with more USB 3 ports than you could shake a stick at too I'd imagine.

 

If you could wait for a few months there will be new cards out that will outperform what's available today. You'd probably be able to get a similar spec with a 3080 for roughly the same money. That card has a rumoured 50% performance increase over a 2080, so whatever that works out to with regards that machine's S iteration.

 

Avoid.

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Either was I. Just a bit of trivia that technically whether they mention it or not that the supplied card has a USB 3 port, doesn't matter what connection it is it's USB 3 and of course the thing is going to have USB 3 enabled ports, it's a 2 grand machine with a 2080s, overpriced or no. Unless they're fitting it with several year old motherboards.

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5 hours ago, amc said:

I know it's neither here nor there and totally agree about the poor specs information but that graphics card has USB 3 functionality built into it by way of a USB C port. It can actually be used for connecting USB 3 peripherals too, SSD etc although it's included as a means of connecting VR.

 

But like I say that's semantics and yup that machine is overpriced. You could get a 2080Ti from a more PC specialised retailer for that amount of money, with more USB 3 ports than you could shake a stick at too I'd imagine.

 

If you could wait for a few months there will be new cards out that will outperform what's available today. You'd probably be able to get a similar spec with a 3080 for roughly the same money. That card has a rumoured 50% performance increase over a 2080, so whatever that works out to with regards that machine's S iteration.

 

Avoid.


Thanks very much everyone for your replies. Sounds like it’s not the one to go for! For the sake of a few months I’ll wait out then. 

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16 minutes ago, amc said:

Either was I. Just a bit of trivia that technically whether they mention it or not that the supplied card has a USB 3 port, doesn't matter what connection it is it's USB 3 and of course the thing is going to have USB 3 enabled ports, it's a 2 grand machine with a 2080s, overpriced or no. Unless they're fitting it with several year old motherboards.

 

Currys' machines have bespoke motherboards usually that you can't get off the shelf and so it having a lack of USB 3 ports wouldn't be a surprise to save a few pennies.


This doesn't apply to the PC Specialist branded stuff though, they will have 'proper' components.

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HP may cut corners but not supplying USB 3 ports on an I7 10700 and 2080s machine would be mind blowing. Maybe a few years back but it'd probably cost them money now to source motherboards without a USB 3 controller/headers.

 

 But I guess stranger things have happened.

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13 hours ago, Opinionated Ham Scarecrow said:

I wouldn't touch a Dell desktop. They can be very difficult to upgrade. It also seems overpriced.

Dell kit is fine for one purpose. Corporate PCs where they are bought typically kept for 3 years and then scrapped. They are solid machines and for a corporate environment perfect workhorses. For a home gaming PC though wouldn't touch them. Proprietary motherboards and cases means they are difficult to upgrade. Not sure what the Alienware kit is like but I expect the same as they are mass built to get costs down.

 

This is the same for HPs and the like and most dissktops you can buy at PC World Currys.

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On 25/07/2020 at 23:58, thesnwmn said:

Finally managed to get a few hours of Anno 1800.

 

Having never played one the very start was completely perplexing. The game didn’t pop up any instructions about that to click or do. After 10 minutes of literally nothing I was fuming and quit to restart. On the second try it actually instructed me to use right click to move.

 

The next two hours were much much more fun! Really enjoying the gameplay loop even if I{m struggling to get my finances positive. Having learnt a bit it might be time to start a second game

It took me about 7 restarts before I was running smoothly and now i'm 60 hours deep.  You learn from your mistakes and can very quickly catch up.

 

The production Demand/Supply bar chart helps a lot, shows you what you're missing to keep people happy, happy people pay much greater taxes. In some cases it is better to have a downranked house that is max happy than to upgrade and have them unhappy. If you click the house, it shows you what additional stuff you can give them.

 

It's so damn good

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