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Amazing clearance by their defender from Bellingham's header. A complete fluke but well done to him for putting himself in the position.  I think it was the same manoeuvre he did to give away the second penalty by fouling DCL's head with his arse.

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I like Southgate as England manager as he's avoided so many of the selection failings of previous managers, but taking an injured CB who hasn't played for weeks and is unlikely to feature in the group is a throwback to the bad days of old, and then it gives you knock on problems as you pick around that and leave yourself lacking elsewhere. 

 

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I’m glad he’s taking White, seems far more competent that Mings yesterday and played like the senior player out of the 3 CBs. In addition, he brought the ball forward on a number of occasions in that way Maguire does. 

I quite like Ward-Prowse but he does lack a bit of mobility in league games. Great set-piece specialist but I think he’d be found out at international level. 

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It's a weird debate. We have a set piece personal. 
Trippier is Atletico's free kick taker (and smashed home a belter for us in the Semi Final of the World Cup), Mount is on FK and corner duty for Chelsea, Kane takes direct Fks for Spurs, and both Foden & Sterling are regular 2nd choices behind De Bruyne.

 

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8 hours ago, deerokus said:

I've got a bit of confidence Scotland could get out of the group. It'll be finely balanced. 

 

It's the first step to independence. If Scotland can prove they can finally get out of a group stage, they can have their freedom.

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If the choice was White or Ward-Prowse, then White is certainly the better choice, even though Ward-Prowse played well against Romania, and is a decent player.

 

Ward-Prowse doesn't bring much apart from set-pieces, and we're already overloaded with excellent free-kick and corner takers. You can add Shaw and Rashford to the list of players already mentioned. Shaw takes most of United's corners, and Rashford regularly blasts knuckleball shots into row Z.

 

White could actually start the first game. I'd have him in there ahead of Mings, who is a walking disaster area. If there had been VAR against Austria, he would have conceded a penalty and been sent off.  He makes terrible decisions, he's clumsy and accident-prone, and he seems to have a short fuse.  There are loads of better English centre backs around, and I don't understand why he's anywhere near the squad.  As well as White, I'd have taken Tomori, Tarkowski, Dunk, Mee, or even Smalling ahead of him.

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I was filled with dread last night by the number of chances England allowed last night against a team 39 places and 238 points lower in the rankings.

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10 minutes ago, Marlowe said:

Is anyone else doing the Euros Panini stickers?

 

I'm having a thankless task finding anyone to swap with!

Did I see they were 90p for a pack of 6? That can't be right surely?

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4 hours ago, Gotters said:

I like Southgate as England manager as he's avoided so many of the selection failings of previous managers, but taking an injured CB who hasn't played for weeks and is unlikely to feature in the group is a throwback to the bad days of old, and then it gives you knock on problems as you pick around that and leave yourself lacking elsewhere. 

 


This. Is Southgate really going to drop (an already clanger prone) defender who is  half fit and not played for months dick deep in the middle of a tournament? Just sounds like a disaster. If a player can’t play in the group stages then we should be taking an alternative. 

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Stickers are an absolute scandal now. I remember they were giving the books away at some tube stops one year so a few mates starting collecting them and gave up quite quickly. I think even assuming you got exactly what you needed in every packet it would cost about £90 to fill the bloody thing up, ignoring obviously that all you ever seem to get is the same Bulgarian 3rd choice keeper time and again. Imagine being forced to attend one of those sticker meets at Olympia or something to get the elusive swaps you're after. 

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1 hour ago, Jammy said:

The amount of times Grealish is fouled, it’d make sense to take a free-kick specialist.

 

But... we are. Two of them.

The free kick specialists from both the La Liga champions and the European Champions.

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15 minutes ago, Pants McSkill said:

 

But... we are. Two of them.

The free kick specialists from both the La Liga champions and the European Champions.

 

Trippier and Mount ?

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1 hour ago, Art Vandelay said:

Stickers are an absolute scandal now. I remember they were giving the books away at some tube stops one year so a few mates starting collecting them and gave up quite quickly. I think even assuming you got exactly what you needed in every packet it would cost about £90 to fill the bloody thing up, ignoring obviously that all you ever seem to get is the same Bulgarian 3rd choice keeper time and again. Imagine being forced to attend one of those sticker meets at Olympia or something to get the elusive swaps you're after. 

You'd do well, this time. 

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1 hour ago, Oh Danny Boy said:


This. Is Southgate really going to drop (an already clanger prone) defender who is  half fit and not played for months dick deep in the middle of a tournament? Just sounds like a disaster. If a player can’t play in the group stages then we should be taking an alternative. 

 

Your view is being coloured by the team you support. Maguire isn't clanger-prone at all (that's Lindelof and Bailly's role in the United defence) and he was injured on May 9th, so he's been out less than a month, not "months." He's also by a distance our best centre back, and considering how weak the other established players in that position are, he's one of the most important players in the squad, second only to Kane, arguably.  Given all of that, plus having a larger squad than usual to work with, I can see the wisdom in taking him in the hope that he can play in the knock out stages.

 

Club loyalty probably prevents you from seeing it, but your argument applies far more to Henderson than Maguire. He's been out for longer, and is probably rustier. He also doesn't bring much on the field that other players don't already do as well or better, apart from the nebulous quality of "leadership" which in his case seems to consist of selfishly taking a penalty off a recognised taker and then missing it, or headbutting an opponent in a World Cup knock out match.

 

Actually, I like Henderson as an England player.  I'd have picked him in the 26.  I'm simply highlighting how your otherwise reasonable point about taking injured players is undermined by your ridiculous prejudice against a Man Utd player, and just factually inaccurate.

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