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NVIDIA GeForce 30-series: come for the lack of order updates and stock, stay for the fan discussion


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My old gaming PC died a week ago but have been gaming on my Shadow PC for the past year so it hasn't really been an issue. The shadow is not perfect though as loading times are definitely one of the things it struggles with. I'm guessing this is more to do with the NAS storage than anything else but it's become a bit of an issue with MSFS. I have been waiting for ages to build a new gaming PC so this might just push me over the edge to buy one. I imagine rumours about the top-end model being £1400-1500 accurate :( Anything less would be a bonus but will just have to see. 

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3 minutes ago, tronied said:

I imagine rumours about the top-end model being £1400-1500 accurate :( Anything less would be a bonus but will just have to see. 

 

I suspect it will be accurate - but I think that's just the price you have to pay for 4K+ 120fps+ with all the bells and whistles. I ended up buying a 2080ti last time round due to having a surprising amount of money in my guilt-free nerd fund, and I don't think I ever really pushed it.

 

Like, my most played PC game in the last year is Noita.

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It would be rather nice if they attempted to act in a nice manner and added a free copy of Cyberpunk to the package...Although I suspect that would be asking far too much of nVidia really.

 

It's one area where AMD do the right thing - whenever I've bought any AMD product (processors and even ryzen mobos) they bung in a fair few free bits and bobs!

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3090 has 24GB VRAM so is likely the Titan replacement.

3080 FEs and initial AIBs have 10GB VRAM - but I imagine it's quicker than the 11GB in the 2080Ti.

3080 AIBs might also release (maybe later) with 20GB VRAM for some reason.

3080 Ti will be out next year to counter AMD's Big Navi (love that name).

Apparently Cyberpunk will be shown running in DLSS 2.1, full RTX madness on the 3090.

 

At least, that's the rumours.

 

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1 minute ago, jonamok said:

As long as it's around £800 or less I'm totally in for a 3080, if I can get one.

 

Which is the best 3rd party GPU card manufacturer? I have no idea.

 

EVGA are probably the best from previous experience. However, I've had graphics cards from various manufacturers over the years and I've rarely had problems with any of them. All boils down to how much of a 'looker' you want. I'm old and proud enough now to demand the thing has as little plastic on as possible, hence why I'll probably be veering towards paying more for a nVidia one, but I am very, very stupid.

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3 minutes ago, jonamok said:

As long as it's around £800 or less I'm totally in for a 3080, if I can get one.

 

Which is the best 3rd party GPU card manufacturer? I have no idea.

 

Was just about to ask that. Want to know which one particularly to look out for. Apparently they’ll be available at the same time as the Founder’s cards.

 

If anyone’s wondering like I was recently, ‘FE’ in Jonamok’s post refers to ‘Founder’s Edition’ ie cards made by Nvidia themselves who despite keeping the best binned ones can be and are outperformed by ‘AIB’ (all in board) cards made by 3rd party manufacturers who can push the card harder. I’m just learning this too so keep me right.

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I'm considering getting a laptop and was holding off until this announcement to see if it impacts the cost of the 2000 series cards (my current system is from 2012 or so). Is this likely to affect the price of the older cards at all or will it absolutely not matter? If I remember when I looked into this when RTX cards were announced it was a while before the laptop versions came about anyway.

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2 minutes ago, Meat said:

 

 Nvidia themselves who despite keeping the best binned ones can be and are outperformed by ‘AIB’ (all in board) cards made by 3rd party manufacturers who can push the card harder. I’m just learning this too so keep me right.

 

yep, they keep the best chips, but, then stick it on a board with less cooling and mismatched ram modules! (different manufacturers)

 

Whereas the top end stuff from, say, ASUS, will hand match memory modules to make sure they play very well together, resulting in massive overclocks for memory being available, like, 1000mhz plus on the memory overclocks.

 

Thats probably why they have redesigned the cooler and power, to try and make up for that difference...well....we shall see

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I have a B brand/tier Zotac 2080Ti. I say B brand because it's supposed to have a lesser pick of the actual chips. Don't think any manufacturer is an actual B brand, just some of the card variations they sell and their binned chip. I know Zotac has variations of 2080Ti that match EVGA's top cards for price etc.

 

My lower priced Zotac with two fans is a beast, a beast that makes a mockery of the sentence I wrote above. The overclock I can get on it is insane, and completely stable. So what I took to be a B grade binned chip due to price turned out to in fact be something that would grace any manufacturer's expensive board. Those two fans on the very well built shroud plus some good Noctua case fans has that 2080Ti flying.

 

I had actually bought a more expensive card from MSI but some fucker had bought a 2080 swapped it for a 2080Ti and put the 2080 back in the Ti box and returned it to Amazon. Dozy fuckers didn't do a proper check at the warehouse and sold me a £700 card for £1200. The cards are almost identical to be fair, the shady buyer had actually peeled a sticker off of the 2080Ti and put it on the 2080's PCB. 

 

Got my money back thankfully and bought the cheaper but absolutely fantastic Zotac. Honestly it's a superb card, the mem and core OC is definitely A tier chip level. The shroud is great but not as good as the actual chip.

 

Anyway, get whatever manufacturer fits your budget, they all seem to be on their A game these days. Just make sure you have a robust warranty and read reviews.

 

I'm waiting on a 3080Ti btw. Not buying a card with 24GB of vRam. It'll be a beast for gaming but I don't care about productivity or synthetic benchmarks and to me the 3090 has RAM, that if you're only gaming, will just sit on the board like an idiot. Totally underused like.

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The top end of this 30 series uses 3 (not 2) slots in the backplane.  And apparently needs a beefier power connector.  Huge amount of heft so looking forward to seeing what it can do. Then I'll potentially be building a new system around one.

 

FS2020 is going to cost me a fortune.  Can't wait

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