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Well that was a fucking nightmare (as I kinda expected it might be).

Update GPU vBIOS -> BitLocker recovery
Update Motherboard BIOS -> all BIOS settings lost including TPM config, underclocking settings, XMP and others -> BitLocker recovery again -> Windows Activation Fail -> find product key again and re-activate...

Oh and all my fan curves and RGB settings that stem from the Gigabyte Windows apps also ALL RESET. FFS.

 

An hour later and it's mostly sorted. Except the RGBs are still all stuck on burnt ochre.

 

THANKS PCs.

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Oh no that really puts me off I don't want my fan settings reset, I guess I could check and log everything before hand. The product key thing though that's a bigger concern, my pc was built by ccl online so I'm not even sure if I have the MB product key, I'll have to dig around the boxes I still have.

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Advice to my past self: until you're actually seeing frame rates below 100+, don't try to optimise or change ANYTHING whilst it's all working.

Just noticed its lost my work VPN settings (which should be coming from just signing in with my AAD account) and I can't sign in to another work thing (which should also work through AAD).

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Gah. Fixed most of that but now also notice it lost my custom GPU voltage curve in MSI Afterburner too.

Again, yes, I should've known, but I genuinely didn't think flashing BIOS would lose *all settings everywhere*. I guess they're keyed to some device ID that changes when the BIOS is updated.

Incidentally, if you don't undervolt, you really should. On the GPU especially it's super easy and has HUGE benefits:

 

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It's a bit late now, but you can backup your Gigabyte fan settings from the same screen you set them from.

 

I was a bit confused at first after updating everything, but then I realised you actually had to turn on the setting the BIOS. I now have Resizable BAR! So back to Monster Hunter on the Switch.:ph34r:

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Well, my new PC which I splurged a crazy amount of money on has finally arrived. I've been promising myself a new PC since my old PC (780GTX SLI setup) broke and I've been using Shadow to tide me over. Forked over £3,750(!) and am now in possession of a 10900K, 32gb RAM, 3090 FTW3 OC, 2TB NVMe SSD machine. It was originally supposed to be a 5900X, but I was 460th in the queue and after a couple of months of no arrivals got fed up waiting for the thing and went with Intel. I think the only real difference is in multithreaded performance and improvement in certain games. It also originally was supposed to be a stock 3090, but they upgraded me for free (worth about £200) as there was little likelihood they'd ever get the other card in.

 

Overall I'm obviously really impressed by it. Scores 18-19K on 3D Mark and can easily manage 60fps lock in Cyberpunk at max settings in 4k (70-80fps at ultra everything in RDR2). Compared to running (streaming) on the Shadow everything looks so damn sharp. Even though I was streaming at 70mbps, there were obviously still compression artefacts and smoothing. This post is not strictly RTX 3000 specific but I am glad I managed to secure mine even if I did have to compromise on the CPU.

 

I am just waiting now until a cheap(er) HDMI 2.1 monitor is released. I've got an old 4K 60fps monitor which is fine, but it doesn't support HDR or anything nice like that. Hopefully give it a year and prices will come down as I definitely feel poor enough without shelling out a further £1k on a monitor.

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12 hours ago, RJames said:

Yeah it makes no sense that flashing the BIOS would lose the settings in a Windows app. It’s just terrible lazy design and engineering.

 

But given what I know about Gigabyte I should’ve guessed!

I think the fan profile is saved to the BIOS regardless of whether you set it there or from the Windows app.

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3 hours ago, tronied said:

Forked over £3,750(!) and am now in possession of a 10900K, 32gb RAM, 3090 FTW3 OC, 2TB NVMe SSD machine. It was originally supposed to be a 5900X, but I was 460th in the queue and after a couple of months of no arrivals got fed up waiting for the thing and went with Intel. I think the only real difference is in multithreaded performance and improvement in certain games. It also originally was supposed to be a stock 3090, but they upgraded me for free (worth about £200) as there was little likelihood they'd ever get the other card in.


Depending on how much anyone is considering being fleeced on eBay (anything from £1900 to £2879 based on completed listings yesterday), and how much was splurged on the other items (Motherboard, Case, Power Supply and if Windows is included), that can be considered a relative bargain. 2TB NVME and 32GB of RAM featuring decent timings doesn't come cheap, that's for sure.

And good job on the 10900K - the follow-up to that particular processor is not being looked too kindly upon.

Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to fucking around and finding out about Resizable BAR at the weekend - I think Zotac's firmware for the feature is now out, and so is my B450 board BIOS, so I guess I can look forward to some free performance - Which I'll end up immediately not using because the fans in the Trinity models sound like a jet engine.

Once the warranty is up, I'll definitely be trying my hand at removing the shroud and slapping on some 120mm fans on the sucker.

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5 hours ago, tronied said:

Well, my new PC which I splurged a crazy amount of money on has finally arrived. I've been promising myself a new PC since my old PC (780GTX SLI setup) broke and I've been using Shadow to tide me over. Forked over £3,750(!) and am now in possession of a 10900K, 32gb RAM, 3090 FTW3 OC, 2TB NVMe SSD machine. It was originally supposed to be a 5900X, but I was 460th in the queue and after a couple of months of no arrivals got fed up waiting for the thing and went with Intel. I think the only real difference is in multithreaded performance and improvement in certain games. It also originally was supposed to be a stock 3090, but they upgraded me for free (worth about £200) as there was little likelihood they'd ever get the other card in.

 

Overall I'm obviously really impressed by it. Scores 18-19K on 3D Mark and can easily manage 60fps lock in Cyberpunk at max settings in 4k (70-80fps at ultra everything in RDR2). Compared to running (streaming) on the Shadow everything looks so damn sharp. Even though I was streaming at 70mbps, there were obviously still compression artefacts and smoothing. This post is not strictly RTX 3000 specific but I am glad I managed to secure mine even if I did have to compromise on the CPU.

 

I am just waiting now until a cheap(er) HDMI 2.1 monitor is released. I've got an old 4K 60fps monitor which is fine, but it doesn't support HDR or anything nice like that. Hopefully give it a year and prices will come down as I definitely feel poor enough without shelling out a further £1k on a monitor.

 

LG 48CX is your friend. ;)

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A 48” monitor on a desk is a crazy idea. If you are playing with a controller from a distance then fair enough but primarily using k&m with anything over 27” on a desk can be hard going. A 32 or 34” curved monitor can certainly work but beyond that is madness. 
 

Unless you have some incomprehensibly weird sized table :huh:

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I’ve obviously missed the previous ‘discussion’. 
 

I sit about 6 feet or so away from my 55” OLED and that feels about right. Sitting at my desk with a 48” version directly in front of me would be difficult. Surely you’d have to turn your head substantially to see parts of the screen? 

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3 hours ago, vezna said:

A 48” monitor on a desk is a crazy idea. If you are playing with a controller from a distance then fair enough but primarily using k&m with anything over 27” on a desk can be hard going. A 32 or 34” curved monitor can certainly work but beyond that is madness. 
 

Unless you have some incomprehensibly weird sized table :huh:

I bought at 34 inch flat ultrawide about 18 months ago primarily for use when working from home.  On office days I am, or was pre-covid, stuck with a poxy 27 inch screen.  The bigger screen makes loads of difference and no way would I want a smaller one

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Ah hah! Resizeable bar in operation.

 

This will make everything better.

 

Everything.

 

I'm sure I'll notice that extra 5% improvement immediately ;) 

 

Still, as an easy thing to do it'd have been churlish not to bung it on really.

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22 hours ago, vezna said:

I’ve obviously missed the previous ‘discussion’. 
 

I sit about 6 feet or so away from my 55” OLED and that feels about right. Sitting at my desk with a 48” version directly in front of me would be difficult. Surely you’d have to turn your head substantially to see parts of the screen? 

 

I'm  only pulling your leg, just a number of us and many others have got one. Agree it's big and my desk depth is 1.1m so that definitely helps. I can't go back to regular monitors now and I had the full gamut .

 

But each to their own of course.

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I got an MSI 3080 order in at Amazon a week ago after an alert pinged and it hasn’t been charged yet. There was a delivery date when I pressed buy but now it’s pending. I’m hoping it’ll act as a preorder of sorts even if I have to keep it awhile. Wonder if it’ll get cancelled. If it does go through I’ll sell my 3070 at auction probably for more than the 3080. At this rate I’m going to upgrade to a 3090 or 3080ti for effectively nothing. I bought a 3070FE for £450 and then sold my 1080ti for £650, more than I paid for it in 2017! I felt awful but I’m going with auction rather than scalping prices at least. 

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So I have found that both my Z390 Aorus and I9900K are good to go for resizable bar after a bios update, just my 2080TI letting the side down. From reading it may be something Nvidia could do for the 2xxx cards but I very much doubt it. No bother, still getting fantastic performance in all games so I won't cry over a new gen card feature.

 

So close to getting a bit of free extra performance mind.

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5 minutes ago, vezna said:

Triple LG CX OLED setup powered by a 3080. I don't have a room big enough in my house I could actually set this up but this bloke is clearly not messing about. :blink:

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Love that he's got that setup to use Zwift, a cycling fitness app that can literally run at full spec on an iphone.

 

His turbotrainer is just out of shot I presume.

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9 minutes ago, Isaac said:

 

Love that he's got that setup to use Zwift, a cycling fitness app that can literally run at full spec on an iphone.

 

His turbotrainer is just out of shot I presume.

In some ways it’s better on an iPhone because the PC app is apparently useless. You won’t get a 4K res out of it though (whereas you can, easily, out of a 1080).

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Anyone know if there are any frequently updated blogs or articles dealing with the shortage of GPU's? I would love to learn more about why I cant get my bloody hands on a 3070. It cant all be crypto miners? 

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10 minutes ago, Stevie said:

Anyone know if there are any frequently updated blogs or articles dealing with the shortage of GPU's? I would love to learn more about why I cant get my bloody hands on a 3070. It cant all be crypto miners? 

I don't have a link to anything, but I did read something a little while ago and it's to do with capacity at the main production centres for the chips, as all manner of companies need chips for phones, cars, consoles, GPUs etc. The pandemic has also played a part (not least in higher demand for stuff requiring chips), as well as trying to move the fabrication process to ever-smaller sizes.

 

It's basically an issue across a number of industries, rather than it being a GPU problem specifically.

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Tbh, there are a number of reasons why its hard to get a GPU.

 

Principally there is a global silicon shortage at present. But more than that, is nividia are actually making as many as they can , and what they thought they would sell based on past sales, the issue, is everybody and their dog is buying them the moment they are released! (linus, jay and gamers nexus have all done vids about it)

 

I mean, the 3070 has a higher steam share of graphics cards than all but 2 of AMDs!?! already! in TWO months!? and there are more 3080 users than 2080ti users

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

 

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To put this in perspective, AMD's new cards, dont appear on the chart because there are clearly so few of them they dont even register!?!

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43 minutes ago, 5R7 said:

To put this in perspective, AMD's new cards, dont appear on the chart because there are clearly so few of them they dont even register!?!

 

They're probably using all their contacted time at TSMC to churn out as many APUs as possible for consoles, after making a handful of cards for reviews and market only to realise that the shit is hitting the fan for every industry and they need to fulfill any previously made agreement to Sony and Microsoft. Probably a more stable payday in comparison to relying on retail markets, too.

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