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Does anyone know if Series S owners will be able to play physical copies of games which we already own for the Xbox one? 

 

I'm going to keep my One S so will still have access to a disc drive. I'm hoping that smart delivery means that I'll be able to download a copy of the game on the series s?

 

Edit - I'm thinking of older 360 games etc. Will they be available to play on the series S or will they require the physical version. 

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26 minutes ago, Rob_Pulsar said:

 OMG - I'm a twat

 

Just to confirm how much of a twat I am - I spend 90% of my day working with a client in the US, often discussing dates / writing emails with dates.  Knowing that, I studied the dashboard dates and was still convinced that I'd only been given 2 extra months! 

 

I guess I thought it'd gone from 2nd May to 5th July by applying some conversion malarkey. :doh:

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23 minutes ago, teroman said:

CDKeys cancelled my first voucher order and has put the second "On Hold" since 9 this morning, grrr!

 

Might have to go elsewhere, I think this is the same thing in case any one else has similar issues:

https://www.shopto.net/en/dwnld46902-xbox-live-prepaid-12-month-gold-membership-card-p83275/

 

Thanks for this.

 

Just bought one and it worked fine. Went back to order a second and it tells me "This item can only be ordered 1 per customer."...  so I'll chance it with CD Keys for the next one/s.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, mintsauc313 said:

Does anyone know if Series S owners will be able to play physical copies of games which we already own for the Xbox one? 

 

I'm going to keep my One S so will still have access to a disc drive. I'm hoping that smart delivery means that I'll be able to download a copy of the game on the series s?

 

Edit - I'm thinking of older 360 games etc. Will they be available to play on the series S or will they require the physical version. 

 

If you don't have a disc drive to validate that you own the game for the console you want to play on, then I don't know how that can work.

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12 minutes ago, hub2 said:

 

Thanks for this.

 

Just bought one and it worked fine. Went back to order a second and it tells me "This item can only be ordered 1 per customer."...  so I'll chance it with CD Keys for the next one/s.

 

 

 

That's a pain. If CDKeys refund me again I think it'll be me, the wife and the cats all buying a code from ShopTo. All for different accounts of course.

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1 hour ago, moosegrinder said:

 

I definitely noticed the resolution hit on Hades Switch VS the PC one but it didn't bother me. I'm pretty sure people who claim to see differences between 120 frames and 60 would buy £300 power cable for an amp if they were audiophiles.


LCD and OLED both suffer with motion issues due to the sample and hold technique, 120 vs 60 is a night and day difference in clarity and the resolution you can actually see and as a bonus you also have less latency on each frame and the input itself - it’s a massive improvement and why pro players will turn everything down to hit the highest framerate possible, 144 being the minimum really....

 

VRR also eliminates tearing so can improve any game - as a tv upgrade you could argue it’s a better jump than 1080p to 4k is

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1 minute ago, Shimmyhill said:


LCD and OLED both suffer with motion issues due to the sample and hold technique, 120 vs 60 is a night and day difference in clarity and the resolution you can actually see and as a bonus you also have less latency on each frame and the input itself - it’s a massive improvement and why pro players will turn everything down to hit the highest framerate possible, 144 being the minimum really....

 

VRR also eliminates tearing so can improve any game - as a tv upgrade you could argue it’s a better jump than 1080p to 4k is

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54 minutes ago, gooner4life said:

 

Ah the fabled magic beans, what a load of nonsense.


I wasn’t paying much attention but it was to do with RDNA vs RDNA2 stuff and a video I watched as I fell into a YouTube well of videos comparing the s to the x - they were mentioning the new Resi game and the devs commenting on it but again I’m just a viewer with no understanding of all that stuff!

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15 minutes ago, Shimmyhill said:


I wasn’t paying much attention but it was to do with RDNA vs RDNA2 stuff and a video I watched as I fell into a YouTube well of videos comparing the s to the x - they were mentioning the new Resi game and the devs commenting on it but again I’m just a viewer with no understanding of all that stuff!

The RDNA vs RDNA2 stuff is just made up.  The PS5 isn't using some older version of AMD's tech.  PS/XBOX have their own tweaks on RDNA2.  How much better one is over the other is both guesswork and a bit meaningless given the differences it'll actual make in games.  "Have it at ye with my GPU cache scrubbers".  "Behold my mighty SFS".  Thus, the playground was won!

 

The Resi development difficulty is some nonsense spread by an 'insider' on Resetera who wanted to even the narrative when Xbox was suffering a bit.

 

The S's only performance advantage over PS5 may come from streaming.  Since it has less memory to fill, it's effective streaming rate ends being higher than the PS5's faster SSD. Under certain takes on what it might be streaming.  It's still all stuff and nonsense.

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6 minutes ago, Sixkiller said:

I can see online that Xbox one controllers are compatible with the S / X.

 

However, what i can't find is whether an old USB 360 pad will be?  I've got one of them and it'd be most useful if I can use that as a second pad for my incoming S...

 

No.

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7 minutes ago, Sixkiller said:

I can see online that Xbox one controllers are compatible with the S / X.

 

However, what i can't find is whether an old USB 360 pad will be?  I've got one of them and it'd be most useful if I can use that as a second pad for my incoming S...

360 pads aren't compatible with the Bone, so I doubt they'll be Series S/X compatible. 

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On 22/09/2020 at 08:25, bear said:

I think I've secured one through the using the store on my One X. Doesn't have my Eircode (Irish postcode)in the delivery address so I'll need to contact support about that but thats a small hardship.

 

 

I'm fucking getting one! :D

So after checking my emails it looks like two of my attempts at ordering direct from Microsoft have gone through. It's odd that they'd let two orders from the same Microsoft account go through so that might need sorting out as well. 

 

 

Still, at the moment, I'm fucking getting two! :doh:

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1 hour ago, hub2 said:

 

Thanks for this.

 

Just bought one and it worked fine. Went back to order a second and it tells me "This item can only be ordered 1 per customer."...  so I'll chance it with CD Keys for the next one/s.

 

 

 

I just bought my codes from AO.com in the end, £40 a pop, arrived in about 10 mins

 

https://ao.com/product/s4t00026-xbox-one-gaming-accessories-white-68272-292.aspx

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1 hour ago, mintsauc313 said:

Wouldn't the fact you are signing into both consoles with the same account cover it? There could be a requirement to insert the disc nto one of the consoles every X number of days.

 

Will have to wait and see. 

 

 

Well, going by how it works at the moment with Xbox One, digital purchases require you to be either signed in on the console you want to play on or have that console set as your "home" console, I assume this wont be any different on the Series X/S.

 

Currently physical purchases require the disc to be in the console to enable you to play it eg. You insert the game disc into the Xbox One, it downloads the game and the disc acts as the authentication key for you to play it. If you were to remove the disc and try to play the game you'll get a message asking you to insert the disc to play.

 

So based on that I think if you're going for a Series S, you're going to need to hold on to your other Xbox to play discs, or purchase them digitally to play them on Series S.

 

Hopefully I'm wrong as that hurts the transition from Xbox One to Series X/S in that you basically need to buy the more expensive console.

 

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https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/09/we-are-in-possession-of-a-working-xbox-series-x/
 

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Microsoft has previously confirmed that external drives connected via USB Type-A 3.1 connections will be compatible with both Xbox Series models. These will only boot previous generations' software; Series-gen games can be stored on older, external drives, but they won't boot until moved back to the system's NVMe drives.

 

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Oh that's interesting.

 

A couple of thoughts:

 

1) The 1TB expansion  is tiny! in my head it was the size of a normal SSD, that would go in a PC, I don't know why, so seeing it next to an SD card surprised me.

 

2) It sounds like the spare 6TB USB 3 drive I have could be set up plugged in, and then I could just 'archive' games to that one, if I run out of space. I couldn't play them, but I could move things back and forth if I wanted to play them, which would be quicker than re-downloading them again? Which is a nice convenience...

 

...I'll probably cave and buy the expansion if I really do run out of space, but that's going to be some time next year I'm sure.

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8 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

Of course. That’s the perfect compromise and exactly what I want both consoles to do. 
They might even benefit from a  little speed bump now the system supports those bus speeds. I’m thinking a cheap 500 gig ssd with usb cable

Genius.

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2 minutes ago, cowfields said:

Oh that's interesting.

 

A couple of thoughts:

 

1) The 1TB expansion  is tiny! in my head it was the size of a normal SSD, that would go in a PC, I don't know why, so seeing it next to an SD card surprised me.

 

2) It sounds like the spare 6TB USB 3 drive I have could be set up plugged in, and then I could just 'archive' games to that one, if I run out of space. I couldn't play them, but I could move things back and forth if I wanted to play them, which would be quicker than re-downloading them again? Which is a nice convenience...

 

...I'll probably cave and buy the expansion if I really do run out of space, but that's going to be some time next year I'm sure.

 

Pretty much, store everything on the usb external and just keep the 'series' games on the ssd. Will do for a good while until the ssd expansion gets below £100.  

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