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2 minutes ago, Ghosty said:

 

Microsoft is a software company. Yes they do make some stuff, but honestly they never get great reviews. Microsoft surface laptop thingy? How much is that? First and foremost. Sony makes TV's, phones etc etc.

The Surface line of products are some of the most highly regarded and reviewed out there. Sony do make a lot of hardware, but a lot of hardware that nobody wants to buy judging by the financials of their various divisions.

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8 minutes ago, PC Master Race said:

The Surface line of products are some of the most highly regarded and reviewed out there.

 

They also price and position it like a premium product, rather than a massmarket product though.

 

If you take these rumours at face value, we'll get to see how much the silent majority are willing to pay for a high end console experience, or is good enough good enough? It could end up being a re-run of PS2 versus Xbox, though the performance gap there was very obviously in Microsoft's favour.

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17 minutes ago, PC Master Race said:

The Surface line of products are some of the most highly regarded and reviewed out there. Sony do make a lot of hardware, but a lot of hardware that nobody wants to buy judging by the financials of their various divisions.

 

Windows phone? No one brought it. They must have took a big financial hit there. 

 

Back to the Xbox. Personally I am willing to buy a Xbox this time around. My PS4 Pro has always been quiet. If it sounds like a jet engine, place it on glass, not wood.

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1 minute ago, mushashi said:

If you take these rumours at face value, we'll get to see how much the silent majority are willing to pay for a high end console experience, or is good enough good enough? It could end up being a re-run of PS2 versus Xbox, though the performance gap there was very obviously in Microsoft's favour.

Lets hope Microsoft don't give Sony a 20 month head start then.

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1 minute ago, mushashi said:

 

I think that just made the margin of victory bigger, a legacy userbase and price advantage can do much the same thing.

At the time Microsoft were starting from zero and coming late into a market where pretty much everyone had already written them off. Things are different now, and I would suspect lessons have been learnt from the Xbone launch.

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Well the X360 had all the advantages the PS2 had without the noticeable performance disadvantage the PS2 suffered from in multi-platform games, ended in a probable tie.

 

I'd put money on Sony still winning this generation, the only thing worth betting on is their margin of victory imo.

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5 minutes ago, PC Master Race said:

At the time Microsoft were starting from zero and coming late into a market where pretty much everyone had already written them off. Things are different now, and I would suspect lessons have been learnt from the Xbone launch.

 

Microsoft are still playing catch up. They have a lot of work to do to convince consumers. The US will be their biggest market. Sony has the EU and Asia wrapped up.

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14 minutes ago, mushashi said:

Well the X360 had all the advantages the PS2 had without the noticeable performance disadvantage the PS2 suffered from in multi-platform games, ended in a probable tie.

 

I'd put money on Sony still winning this generation, the only thing worth betting on is their margin of victory imo.

At the end of the PS2 generation, I think everyone would have laughed you off the stage if you had suggested the next generation would have ended up pretty much tied. A shame Microsoft went full on Sony PS3 level complacency with the bone.

 

I agree Sony will likely sell the most consoles next round, but I think it will be somewhat closer than this generation was.

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3 hours ago, Ghosty said:

 

I agree. The problem for MS is that Sony is willing to take a loss on the units sold for the first year or so. They are the hardware specialist. The Xbox controller still uses batteries, which says it all really.


having removable batteries that last ages is great dude.  Especially if they go bad. The Sony controller batteries are pump and you have to open them up if you have a set that’s worn out after all these years.  I know which one I’d rather have.  Down with non replaceable batteries!

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3 hours ago, Ghosty said:

 

Microsoft are still playing catch up. They have a lot of work to do to convince consumers. The US will be their biggest market. Sony has the EU and Asia wrapped up.


yup.  When you look at sales, Sony have way more territories covered than MS.  I remember early on some countries still not having launch units for sale months after actual launch while Sony had stuff sorted in way more places.  I’d hope MS have worked on getting their distribution sorted out this time round as they were being absolutely stomped on the territories they were competing in Europe and Asia and offering zero competition in a fair few countries. You can build a great console that shits all over your rival but if you can’t get it onto stores for people to buy they’re going to buy the other console.  

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16 hours ago, Ghosty said:

 The Xbox controller still uses batteries, which says it all really.

 

Exactly, its a better product. Go use a DS4 for 2013-2015. You'll be lucky to get 4 hours out of a controller. I'm still getting 20 hours out of any Xbox pad I use thanks to my eneloops. 

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On 31/12/2019 at 15:15, Ghosty said:

The Xbox controller still uses batteries, which says it all really.

 

Literally the best thing about the Xbox.

 

My Xbox One controllers last 25-30 hours and can be recharged effectively instantly.  In 5 years they will still last 25-30 hours.

 

My Ps4 controllers last about 5 hours, take hours to recharge and in 5 years will probably effectively be wired controllers.

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13 minutes ago, Ghosty said:

Less weight with the PS4 controller though. Adding batteries makes it heavy. Personally I used mine wired (Razer controller) as it takes away input lag.


apologies mate. Didn’t realise that extra 70g was making such a difference to you.  What medical condition do you have that makes 210 grams ok but 280 grams unworkable?  

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