Hogwarts Legacy - TERF war

[SeanR]

[TehStu]

This is a fascinating discussion, I think we have a thread for it in Off Topic. I thought what @Broker wrote was pretty compelling, despite my promoting wallet voting multiple times across many threads. I mean, food is so damn expensive now that I'm back to Walmart for certain stuff, so I'm definitely back to propping up billionaires again.

 

Just seeing the "official leak" of where the next AC game is set has me perked up and interested, but Ubisoft management are dicks.

 

I dunno, if you're a parent, raise your kids not to be arseholes. Perhaps we'll perpetuate less of this toxic bullshit.

[Rex Grossman]

14 hours ago, Dig Dug said:

Your argument is one of hypocrisy and you know it. Watching the World Cup is approval of Qatar, it is the one thing they want beyond all else. You’re a hypocrite if you watch it and criticise them at the same time, that’s a fact.

 

Please continue to tell me how the world works. It's like being back in 6th form. Great times.

[fat flatulent git]

Tours of the common rooms now up.

 

 

 

 

 

[Festoon]

"This the the room where we put the graphics. But it has too many graphics, so, I don't know - you might want to wear a hat"

[Festoon]

 

[Festoon]

Rowling is tackling the Goblin thing in a very subtle fashion in her new book. 

 

Beware, it's very subtly done.

 

 

[b00dles]

This whole book seems so embarrassing. 

[jonamok]

Jesus. JKR is such a fucked up person.

[Hexx]

 

[chamberlago]

"How do you sleep at night knowing you've lost a whole audience from buying your books"

Personally I really don't think at this point people can pay money for officially licensed HP products and be under any illusions that they aren't contributing to the hatred she continues to spew

[Giddas]

12 minutes ago, chamberlago said:

"How do you sleep at night knowing you've lost a whole audience from buying your books"

Personally I really don't think at this point people can pay money for officially licensed HP products and be under any illusions that they aren't contributing to the hatred she continues to spew

 

I'm not sure there's a direct connection between buying a plastic wand and the stuff she comes out with, she's just copied that line off Gervais anyway.

[jonathanhoey]

 

 

In fairness, McBain is a far more sympathetic figure than JKR.

[Mr. Gerbik]

1 hour ago, Giddas said:

I'm not sure there's a direct connection between buying a plastic wand and the stuff she comes out with

She gets paid extra for evey piece licenced tat sold. It's not hard to understand, she and her people sell and approve the use of the license and earn royalties on top of that. The money she earns allows her to comfortably sit on her ass spewing terf hatred into social media without a care in the world.

[thesnwmn]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

She gets paid extra for evey piece licenced tat sold. It's not hard to understand, she and her people sell and approve the use of the license and earn royalties on top of that. The money she earns allows her to comfortably sit on her ass spewing terf hatred into social media without a care in the world.

 

But @Giddas isn't sure so can still buy this game without being a bad person, right? I mean we're not sure she's a complete cunt or that she benefits from its sale are we? We've not seen her accounts or anything.

 

/s

[Giddas]

1 hour ago, thesnwmn said:

 

But @Giddas isn't sure so can still buy this game without being a bad person, right? I mean we're not sure she's a complete cunt or that she benefits from its sale are we? We've not seen her accounts or anything.

 

/s

 

Yeah, boycott this game to feel good about yourself, I'm sure JK won't be able to afford her broadband connection any more and will stop. I won't be buying it anyway but it's not because I'm on some futile moral mission.

 

[deerokus]

And she gives the money to her evil pals.

[SMD]

jk rowling               harry potter

                  🤝

absolute shite that needs binning

[TehStu]

I wrote a long post but nuked it. It's a simple matter of empathy, and I guess most/many people don't have it.

[Fry Crayola]

Stop funding hate.

 

Unless hate is rich, then there's no point, so keep funding hate.

[Jolly]

Admittedly, boycotting the game isn't about to make her as financially bankrupt as she is morally, but imagine the ripples if this sure fire hit was to bomb even slightly. Now imagine the message it would send to her if it were to fail completely. 

 

It all matters. 

[Graham S]

Certainly the trans / non binary people and their friends and families who are on the forum do see people who are showing them support vs people who are keen to assert a game like this is more important than them. So it’s certainly signalling something, but it might not necessarily be virtue. Perhaps it’s better called solidarity (or its opposite if you take the other path) And that’s not futile, I’d argue it’s very important in our current context. 

[TehStu]

2 hours ago, Graham S said:

Perhaps it’s better called solidarity or its opposite. And that’s not futile, I’d argue it’s very important in our current context. 

Yeah, you're being an ally. I would love for someone to make the case for that not being important.

[Festoon]

I would never buy this or any other Rowling-related merchandise. She's utterly foul.

[thesnwmn]

I assume anyone being supportive of that community also isn't playing or buying Ubisoft or Activision-Blizzard games either right?

 

I've no interest in Potter so it's easy to ignore at least. But it is interesting seeing the popularity of the Overwatch thread how some publishers/creators/issues/behaviours are perceived versus others. Be it organisational sexism and abuse, crunch, terf-ing, whatever.

 

The test is when the thing you love or like the look of turns up. And I don't think most of this forum is buying or playing this regardless of Rowling's disgusting views.

[TehStu]

And yet you participate in society.

[Lying Cat]

If it helps, no I don’t buy Ubisoft of Acivision Blizzard stuff since all that emerged, but I’m pretty sure I eat food produced by companies within the labyrinthine Nestle monolith.

 

It’s a real shame, as I like Diablo games.

 

However, insinuating that people’s stances on this are less valid because they don’t exist as paragons is, bluntly, total horseshit. No matter how hard you try, everybody eventually falls at a hurdle because there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism - short of taking to the woods or stopping existing, we are all fundamentally ethically compromised.

 

Doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t try though. Not supporting JK Rowling while eating a Yorkie Bar is better than eating one while supporting her.

[Giddas]

6 hours ago, Jolly said:

Admittedly, boycotting the game isn't about to make her as financially bankrupt as she is morally, but imagine the ripples if this sure fire hit was to bomb even slightly. Now imagine the message it would send to her if it were to fail completely. 

 

It all matters. 

 

 

I'd suggest focussing your energy somewhere else, Linehan is skint now, his wife left him and he's still a twat.

 

However, I can appreciate the ally side of things and not "supporting" her, I just don't believe it will cause Rowling to moderate her behaviour at all.

 

 

[Lying Cat]

16 minutes ago, Giddas said:

 

However, I can appreciate the ally side of things and not "supporting" her, I just don't believe it will cause Rowling to moderate her behaviour at all.

 

 

Of course it won’t. We could cut off all revenue streams and she’d still have enough money to campaign for life - but as you say, there’s the ally side of it and showing solidarity with the people she is punching firmly down on.

 

Like, not buying a video game is super easy. It’s even easier than actually buying one - so while Rowling isn’t going to miss my pennies, the load on me is also negligible, and speaking about why you’re not making a purchase and don’t like where the money is going can actually be pretty helpful in terms of raising awareness.

[bradigor]

Rowling is evil personified in the modern world. I'm pretty sure people would buy a game from Hitler of he made a popular franchise.