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I'd heard talk of these mythical Nintendo fanboys where no ill could be said of their precious company.

I never thought they existed.

Christ, does someone have to pop up in every single fucking thread with even the vaguest connection to Nintendo spouting this fanboy nonsense?

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Xevious

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I've said it befpre and I'll say it again, take away the Final Fantasy name and the arguments stop.

The only reason the GBA thing bothers folk is due to the FF name attached to the game. They should have just called it "The Crystal Chronicles".

Oi. I said that.

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Grimnir

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Yes, that is exactly what we've got here.

the trouble is, people see the Final Fantasy name, they see it has lovely graphics and they see it's on the Gamecube, and they want it. Well too bad, man, you can't have it, 'cos it's not for you!

Yeah, but games shouldn't be like that. Everyone should have a chance to play it.

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Hawkeye

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Yeah, but games shouldn't be like that. Everyone should have a chance to play it.

They do have the chance to play it, but you'll need the correct equipment.

Just like Tekki on the Xbox you need the big f*ck off controller to play the game, you can't play it on the normal pad. Live! play also excludes those without BB, should it be scrapped as not everyone has the chance to play on Live!? Don't be so silly.

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Why do you have to buy the GBAs - the game is intended to be played by groups of friends who already own the hardware. If you don't, then you are not who the game is aimed at.

Worldwide, there are many more GBAs out there then GCs.

Ah, I see your here defending the GC`s honour once again.

What people are getting at is that its basically a pain in the arse. Rather than being able to pickup and play, with FF CC you have to organise your multiplayer sessions in advance, by ensuring the following:

A, have 1-3 friends willing to play this type of game

B, ensure they all have GBA SP`s (if they only have standard GBA`s make sure you have a few bright lamps handy for them to play under :D )

C, they each have there own GC to GBA link lead

If your unable to fulfill just one of the above points. It causes problems. You have to agree that its not an ideal situation. Especially when the game is designed to be played main in MP mode.

And why should it have to be limited to people who "already own the hardware"?

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Xevious

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Yeah, but games shouldn't be like that. Everyone should have a chance to play it.

Oh, yes, damn Capcom for making Steel Battalion needing the controller.

Damn the Sesame Street games on the 2600 for needing the kid's controller.

Damn Sega for making Planet Ring need an Internet connection.

Damn Microsoft for making anyone who wants Live have a Broadband connection.

Everyone should have a chance to play all these.

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Grimnir

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They do have the chance to play it, but you'll need the correct equipment.

Just like SB on the Xbox you need the big f*ck off controller to play the game, you can't play it on the normal pad.

True, but it's the friends thing that's difficult for me (I do have friends by the way! Just none with GBAs). It's also annoying for people who have been waiting for a FF to arrive on a Nintendo console, and who can't play it. Maybe if they'd released it along side a totally different FF, people wouldn't be complaining so much... I'm not mad about FF, I'm happy to play on my friends PS2, and the releases on my PS1, but it would have been nice to play it. Ah well, there's still Tales of Symphonia on it's way...

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Xevious

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Just like SB on the Xbox you need the big f*ck off controller to play the game, you can't play it on the normal pad. Live! play also excludes those without BB, should it be scrapped as not everyone has the chance to play on Live!? Don't be so silly.

Oh, for God's sake, this post wasn't here when I wrote mine.

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Hawkeye

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Never, and I repeat never try anything different at all you'll just piss off the Rllmuk massive. Just stick to churning out FF (standard version) so they can all go back to complaining about it's lack of progress as a series (apart from Laine as she likes it still).

Yours,

Everyone at Rllmuk.

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What people are getting at is that its basically a pain in the arse. Rather than being able to pickup and play, with FF CC you have to organise your multiplayer sessions in advance, by ensuring the following:

A, have 1-3 friends willing to play this type of game

B, ensure they all have GBA SP`s (if they only have standard GBA`s make sure you have a few bright lamps handy for them to play under :wacko: )

C, they each have there own GC to GBA link lead

If your unable to fulfill just one of the above points. It causes problems. You have to agree that its not an ideal situation.

It is ideal if you can fullfill those points though.

I know hardly anyone here or anywhere will get to give this a proper go, but the idea is that when you do it is made so much better because of these strict requirements. Again, much like the Steel Batallion thing; hardly anyone gets to even play it, but when they do - oh boy, it makes it worth while!!

And why should it have to be limited to people who "already own the hardware"?

:D

"Yes. I'd like to play this game please."

"Do you have a Gamecube?"

"Erm... no. Is that going to be a problem?"

"No, of course not, just stick the disc on your finger, stare at the shiny surface and just spin it around really, really fast.* See, we cater for all needs!"

(*game may be 'dumbed-down' as a result)

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Xevious

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What people are getting at is that its basically a pain in the arse. Rather than being able to pickup and play, with FF CC you have to organise your multiplayer sessions in advance, by ensuring the following:

A, have 1-3 friends willing to play this type of game

B, ensure they all have GBA SP`s (if they only have standard GBA`s make sure you have a few bright lamps handy for them to play under :D )

C, they each have there own GC to GBA link lead

Well, since whenever my friends come round to mine for a gaming evening, they all bring their GBAs and link cables anyway, I can't see it being a massive problem.

I've an idea. Next time you email anyone about them going to yours to play games, cut and paste this sentence to the end!

"Oh, and don't forget to bring your GBAs and link cables!"

There, I've even saved you typing it.

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Hawkeye

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True, but it's the friends thing that's difficult for me (I do have friends by the way! Just none with GBAs). It's also annoying for people who have been waiting for a FF to arrive on a Nintendo console, and who can't play it. Maybe if they'd released it along side a totally different FF, people wouldn't be complaining so much... I'm not mad about FF, I'm happy to play on my friends PS2, and the releases on my PS1, but it would have been nice to play it. Ah well, there's still Tales of Symphonia on it's way...

That's my point change the name from FF and this thread would never have appeared. It's the fact it's got the FF name attached that seems to have raised the issue of the controller set up.

Take away FF and the GBA owing people may have bought the title and enjoyed it, while those without would have just passed it by without comment.

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Oh, yes, damn Capcom for making Steel Battalion needing the controller.

Damn the Sesame Street games on the 2600 for needing the kid's controller.

Damn Sega for making Planet Ring need an Internet connection.

Damn Microsoft for making anyone who wants Live have a Broadband connection.

Everyone should have a chance to play all these.

Yet more invalid examples.

We're not asking for FFCC not to exist, or to be diluted or any such thing. Just an option for those of us who don't have enough GBAs to play it.

Then, all of you who have the GBAs can play it as it is intended, the rest of us can play a slightly inferior version.

Then everybody's happy :D

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Yewone

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To: SquareENix

Never, and I repeat never try anything different at all you'll just piss off the Rllmuk massive. Just stick to churning out FF (standard version) so they can all go back to complaining about it's lack of progress as a series (apart from Laine as she likes it still).

Yours,

Everyone at Rllmuk.

Hang on have you actually played FF X-2?

Im guessing not, otherwise you`d realise how different from the others it actually is.

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Hawkeye

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Well, since whenever my friends come round to mine for a gaming evening, they all bring their GBAs and link cables anyway, I can't see it being a massive problem.

I've an idea.  Next time you email anyone about them going to yours to play games, cut and paste this sentence to the end!

"Oh, and don't forget to bring your GBAs and link cables!"

There, I've even saved you typing it.

Now be sensible they'll at least need a jacket with a pocket to carry this equipment around, and not everyone with a GBA has a jacket or coat with pockets. :D

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Ah, I see your here defending the GC`s honour once again.

What people are getting at is that its basically a pain in the arse. Rather than being able to pickup and play, with FF CC you have to organise your multiplayer sessions in advance, by ensuring the following:

A, have 1-3 friends willing to play this type of game

B, ensure they all have GBA SP`s (if they only have standard GBA`s make sure you have a few bright lamps handy for them to play under :D )

C, they each have there own GC to GBA link lead

If your unable to fulfill just one of the above points. It causes problems. You have to agree that its not an ideal situation. Especially when the game is designed to be played main in MP mode.

And why should it have to be limited to people who "already own the hardware"?

Yes, it's a pain in the arse - I've never said otherwise. It's a huge demand, but it's what SquareEnix have chosen to do and their implementation of it makes it worthwhile. They have genuinely produced a game that couldn't have been done in any other way. The comparison with Tekki is a good one - a game that simply wouldn't have worked without the controller.

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Xevious

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We're not asking for FFCC not to exist, or to be diluted or any such thing. Just an option for those of us who don't have enough GBAs to play it.

Then, all of you who have the GBAs can play it as it is intended, the rest of us can play a slightly inferior version.

But by taking out the GBA support, you *are* diluting it, and you *are* changing the game to something else. It'd be a different game. Why not just go and buy a different game, and leave those who can play it to buy this one?

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