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PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X - Console Warz R Srs Business!


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2 minutes ago, gooner4life said:

No console is a 'good' 4K Bluray player, if you're that bothered about the difference between HDR10 and DV then you'd buy a standalone player.

The PS4 was a near perfect Blu-ray player, I was hoping the PS5 would be the same for UHD discs. :(

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2 minutes ago, gooner4life said:

No console is a 'good' 4K Bluray player, if you're that bothered about the difference between HDR10 and DV then you'd buy a standalone player.

Yeah, they are always going to be functional at best and for most people that's going to be more than good enough. Anybody relying on a console to match a standalone is setting themselves up for disappointment.

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1 minute ago, Shimmyhill said:


For the hard of hearing maybe, the transport noise makes the Series X seem quiet let alone the fan noise!

Ah, I never had a problem with noise on mine* - one of the lucky few. :)

 

*Not strictly true - I had to put polystyrene underneath the PS4 pro to deaden the vibration. 

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Ah disks are noisy anyway aren't they... moving parts. You can only stop so much of the noise to be fair. We should be grateful that you aren't using an original Xbox 360 to play DVDs :D Now that was noisy.... In fact don't think mine was ever quiet. New consoles are so much better at this.

 

Not that it really bothers me. I'd be happy if the X didn't have a drive at all - or at least they offered a version without it. I don't envisage me ever owning any physical media on the X at all. Suppose the option is there. But disk software? In 2020?  And people complain about AA user replaceable batteries on Xbox controllers :D 

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1 hour ago, Shimmyhill said:


Ohhh Lordy, I despise the PS3 but did have 6 of them trying to get a quiet one for Blu-ray Discs - I concluded that people who buy consoles don’t know what a quiet disc spinner is.

:D The fact that a games console plays video disks back at all is a bonus TBH. Never really used a console for that purpose. They have by and large been to noisy. All of them. No problem now mind happy to take the hit in quality and just stream things. Last blu-ray disk I bought was Blade Runner (2049) and will probably be the last to be fair.

 

Understand if people have large collections of disks to watch though but why not invest in a device that specialises in that? Discs are a fairly specialist thing these days anyway with most people happy with streaming these days. You wouldn't buy a Blu-Ray player to play games on (eg: Neon tried it) would you?

 

Saying all that it's not that noisy is on playback is it? Can't say its intrusive in any way especially if you have the sound cranked up anyway. 

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AC Valhalla comparison from DF:



 

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Differences in game's visual make-up essentially disappear completely once we move onto PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, where Ubisoft aims for total platform parity and basically delivers that. After a range of tests, there's simply nothing to separate the two in terms of what the game is rendering: level of detail transitions in character quality, tessellation distance and trees and terrain are identical, while shadow resolution is similarly the same. We couldn't find any differences at all in fully matched scenarios and any variations that may have been reported may well be down to the time of day system, which sees lighting adjust dramatically according to the sun's position in the sky (or indeed its absence at night time).


 

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So, similar to our first Series X vs PS5 platform comparison, we're looking at feature parity - but again, performance is where there is a difference. With Devil May Cry 5, Xbox Series X enjoyed a small lead in most rendering modes, falling short against PS5 in 120Hz gaming. With AC Valhalla, there's only one mode and 60fps is the target. While there are problems on both systems, Xbox Series X obviously fares worse. To put things into context, Valhalla targets 60 frames per second, but when the engine is under heavy load and can't render a new frame within the 16.7ms target, it'll present the new frame when it's good and ready, while your screen is updating. This causes screen tearing. Both systems can have issues here, especially in cutscenes, and sometimes in gameplay. However, the key takeaway is that PlayStation 5 is much closer to the 60fps target more of the time, while Xbox Series X can struggle. In fact, at its worst, we noted PS5 delivering a 15 per cent performance advantage over its Microsoft equivalent in identical scenarios.

 

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2 hours ago, Shimmyhill said:


Ohhh Lordy, I despise the PS3 but did have 6 of them trying to get a quiet one for Blu-ray Discs - I concluded that people who buy consoles don’t know what a quiet disc spinner is.

I just want to know who watches Blu-rays with the sound down and why? When I watch a film, my surround sound system gets cranked up.

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15 minutes ago, Vemsie said:

AC Valhalla comparison from DF:



 


 

 


Faster rops innit, glad I chose a ps5 that’s for sure. What’s the point of having a big chunk of slow as fuck graphics. Fast and nimble always the better option.

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Why do DF say "...Xbox Series X obviously fares worse." (my emphasis)? Is there a known reason for it?

 

Regardless, that's pretty damning for a high profile title. You'd expect, nay, demand, solid 60fps from both consoles and the fact you don't get it is very disappointing.

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1 minute ago, Gabe said:

Why do DF say "...Xbox Series X obviously fares worse." (my emphasis)? Is there a known reason for it?

 

Regardless, that's pretty damning for a high profile title. You'd expect, nay, demand, solid 60fps from both consoles and the fact you don't get it is very disappointing.

 

Yeah

 

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9 minutes ago, deerokus said:

I think something isn't as well optimised yet on the Xbox

Indeed. Hardware is fixed. APIs and dev tools get better and get optimised as time goes on. Xbox has stronger hardware. Just a matter of time before parity is achieved. Remember when the Dreamcast games looked better than the initial batch of PS2 software? Perhaps not as dramatic as the architectures of the PS5 and Xbox Series X are quite similar. 

 

Be great to see what both consoles can do to be fair. At the moment I like having more storage available than a few frame dips on a game I probably won't play....

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Annoying that tearing is on both consoles and frame drops too. 
 

Given that these consoles have been shoved on us by the two manufacturers, we should be expecting a full 60fps at all times no matter what, with no tearing. 
 

Poor effort from the engineering teams at Sony and MS, and especially the devs at Ubi. 

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31 minutes ago, JPL said:

I just want to know who watches Blu-rays with the sound down and why? When I watch a film, my surround sound system gets cranked up.


Thats the thing tho, I love film and sound has always been far more important and had much more money spent on it so when you get those quiet scenes there is nothing worse than a noisy fan or transport and it’s the kind of noise that just gets under your skin and pisses you off far more than it should.

 

I assume you were never bothered about the noise a 360 or PS4 makes as you just crank up the surround sound!?

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Yep just wait until the games start rolling out from a developer renowned for producing cutting edge high quality games, maybe Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Santa Monica Studios, Guerrilla etc. :P.

 

Don’t worry I’m sure the Xbox will get great games too, in a few years, probably, fingers crossed. At least there’s Gamepass until then, that’s why they’re allowing you to load up for 3 years :D:omg:.

 

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