Retro Gamer Issue 214 - Turrican

[jdanddiet]

Apologies for the blurry pic

 

History of Turrican

Making of Dan Dare III

Making of ZX Interface 1&2

Making of John Madden Football

Ultimate Guide Skies of Arcadia

Ultimate Guide Battlezone

Reinventing Silent Hill

Retro Gift Guide 2020

 

Plus all usuals and more

[Ninja Doctor]

Lovely article on the worms series too which is a good read. 

[Not Thread Owner]

4 hours ago, Ninja Doctor said:

Lovely article on the worms series too which is a good read. 

 

Except it makes no mention of the PD games Ants and M*A*S*H that Worms ripped off

[gizmo1990]

How big is the history of turrican article? Does it include a dev interview?

[strider]

23 minutes ago, gizmo1990 said:

How big is the history of turrican article? Does it include a dev interview?

10 pages with Julian Eggebrecht.

[gizmo1990]

+1 sale! 

[Stoppy2000]

It's a great cover. This plus the Monkey Island one have been my all time favourites. Now I just need to find time to read it! 

[gizmo1990]

I wish some of the original members would attempt the long rumoured Turrican sequel. Or as I would like it Turrican 3... a proper Turrican 3. A game that is to 2 what that was to original.

[dumpster]

11 hours ago, deKay said:

 

Except it makes no mention of the PD games Ants and M*A*S*H that Worms ripped off

Or Scorched Tanks, or Scorched Earth. 

[Not Thread Owner]

18 minutes ago, dumpster said:

Or Scorched Tanks, or Scorched Earth. 

 

It does mention those. But they're not quite the same.

[dumpster]

Yeah, theres an old PC one that I can't put a name to, but from memory it was hard to see what the creator of worms had actually done other than take an existing thing and put worms in it.  Maybe that's being unfair but it def wasn't an original thing.  Is that guy a multi billionaire now? I'd assume he gets a royalty from all the millions of worms games made over the years?

[gizmo1990]

It's difficult isn't it. On the one hand you'd like a title like Scorched Earth to get some sort of recognition and the others that preceded it even. But on the other, artillery games are almost a genre in themselves. My take would be that I'd hope the Worms creator would at least take the opportunity to acknowledge and namecheck these older titles, which Worms obviously owes a debt to.

[carleton]

Thanks to @strider I think I'm in this issue. My mini-sub ran out a while ago and I've barely ventured outside since so is it available in the shops if I do pop out?

[jdanddiet]

2 hours ago, carleton said:

Thanks to @strider I think I'm in this issue. My mini-sub ran out a while ago and I've barely ventured outside since so is it available in the shops if I do pop out?

You are indeed as a 'moment with'

[strider]

If your mag is damaged you can order a replacement here.

mymagazine.co.uk

[Not Thread Owner]

7 hours ago, gizmo1990 said:

It's difficult isn't it. On the one hand you'd like a title like Scorched Earth to get some sort of recognition and the others that preceded it even. But on the other, artillery games are almost a genre in themselves. My take would be that I'd hope the Worms creator would at least take the opportunity to acknowledge and namecheck these older titles, which Worms obviously owes a debt to.

First one for me was Tank Trax on the Speccy, before GORILLA.BAS.

 

Death Tank Zwei though!

[Stoppy2000]

On 25/11/2020 at 17:12, strider said:

If your mag is damaged you can order a replacement here.

mymagazine.co.uk

Has this been a widespread problem or something? Mine was in a paper envelope this month instead of the usual plastic wrapping. It was half ripped open but the magazine was in perfect condition (phew). 

[strider]

2 hours ago, Stoppy2000 said:

Has this been a widespread problem or something? Mine was in a paper envelope this month instead of the usual plastic wrapping. It was half ripped open but the magazine was in perfect condition (phew). 

We've moved over to this new paper to help the environment. I don't know how many people have had issues with damage, I just know where to direct them if they do
Personally I'd prefer slightly thicker paper but these decisions are way above my work on the mag.

[Nathan Wind]

Mine too, was delivered in a torn envelope.  The magazine was fine though. 

 

It's a good episode as well.

[mmmonkey]

Hmmm, torn envelope here too!

[Dudley]

Yep I posted in 213's thread and on twitter, it looks like they're all getting eviscerated in the post because they're using toilet paper envelopes.

 

Not sure how much it helps the environment when they end up sending out 1000 extra copies.

[memories]

Another with torn packaging here as well but thankfully the mag was fine.

[Not Thread Owner]

On 27/11/2020 at 13:03, Stoppy2000 said:

Has this been a widespread problem or something? Mine was in a paper envelope this month instead of the usual plastic wrapping. It was half ripped open but the magazine was in perfect condition (phew). 

Same here.

[SmokeMeAKipper]

At least some of you have had yours, no sign of mine yet this month. 

[Butters]

I'm all for a more environmentally friendly option for delivering the magazines in. But the envelope my magazine arrived in certainly isn't the answer.

 

Then again, if they value the magazine arriving safely as much as they seem to value the need for good customer service, it makes a bit more sense...

[Rex Grossman]

All the research shows that the public want to get rid of plastic envelopes for magazines – they are an absolute disaster for the planet.

Then when a reader gets a wet or torn issue they want the plastic back again. Sod the environment.

 

The reality is that even if you want your plastic back the industry doesn't want it back – too many complaints from the eco-aware.

[Rex Grossman]

On 28/11/2020 at 11:21, Dudley said:

Not sure how much it helps the environment when they end up sending out 1000 extra copies.

 

Because a torn replaced issue isn't made of plastic.

[Dudley]

No but it is made of shipment and CO2 and printing...

 

Also no-one's said they want plastic back, it's almost like there's a middle ground between plastic and toilet paper.

[Ninja Doctor]

Just a marginally thicker paper than the 20gsm stuff they’re using. 

[sandman]

On 30/11/2020 at 15:31, Rex Grossman said:

All the research shows that the public want to get rid of plastic envelopes for magazines – they are an absolute disaster for the planet.

Then when a reader gets a wet or torn issue they want the plastic back again. Sod the environment.

 

The reality is that even if you want your plastic back the industry doesn't want it back – too many complaints from the eco-aware.

Is this for real? Who gives a fuck? Bloody Greta whatsherface