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Formula One 2021 - DRAMA - #Michael Messy

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Dudley

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1 minute ago, cavalcade said:

 

F1 is entertainment. If it was a pure sport it would be "build the fastest car you can". There are regulations and all sorts of bullshit, like DRS. It's not like the 100m - "run this distance as fast as you can without taking drugs". There is no elegance and stripped back purity to F1. 

 

For every one person here bemoaning the purity of decisions there's 10 new people being brought to the sport by stuff like the Netflix drama. I haven't given a flying fuck about F1 for years, but the Netflix show gave me a window into the personalities of all the teams and now I follow it. And that's what it is (and what the Netflix drama reminded me) it's about human drama. Horner being a bit of a dick. Hamilton being about as sincere as a Tesco greetings card. Riccardio being a #bantsmaster. The cars are secondary. This ending, with all the controversy and weirdness and whining is brilliant for F1 and will help it push back on the rise of huge challenges coming from e-sports and a thousand other ways people might want to spend their time. 

 

 

 

Oh good so let's make up something else even more fucking stupid next year.

 

Rules don't make it not a sport.

 

If you want to watch a soap opera go watch one, leave sport alone.  

 

 

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Dudley

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Just now, Bacon Horsemeat said:

Two things that will make it fairer - no more tarmac runoffs to actually penalise going off track, and maintaining time deltas post safety car period.

 

Although you SAY that.  A big tarmac run off and Latifi is just a footnote in Mercedes celebrating a championship...

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5 minutes ago, McCoy said:

Surely a protest is coming. The reason let all cars passed or no cars passed is fairness to all drivers. What are the drivers thinking who weren't allowed to overtake? They were robbed of possible overtaking options. Crazy decisions. 

 

If hope Lewis has enough respect for himself to not win it in the courts. 

 

The rules need an overhaul in the winter.

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cavalcade

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1 minute ago, Dudley said:

 

Oh good so let's make up something else even more fucking stupid next year.

 

Rules don't make it not a sport.

 

If you want to watch a soap opera go watch one, leave sport alone.  

 

 

 

If you want to watch a proper sport, don't watch F1. 

 

It doesn't just have rules, it has politics woven through regulations that are as thick as a doorstop. it has to artificially introduce competition to stop the richer teams winning. 

 

F1 isn't a sport. it has always been a soap opera. Why don't you watch something else? 

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Dudley

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Just now, bradigor said:

 

If hope Lewis has enough respect for himself to not win it in the courts. 

 

The rules need an overhaul in the winter.

 

Well this is the problem, who cares what the rules are.

 

If what happened was IN the rules it'd be different.

 

But the concept of partially letting cars through isn't mentioned anywhere.

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1 minute ago, bradigor said:

 

If hope Lewis has enough respect for himself to not win it in the courts. 

 

The rules need an overhaul in the winter.

Yeah anyone that has any respect for themselves should never try to fight against what they perceive as injustice , they should let it slide . 

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Dudley

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5 minutes ago, cavalcade said:

 

F1 isn't a sport. it has always been a soap opera. 

 

Bullshit.

 

So I watch a sport for 30 years and I'm not welcome because I don't think it's a good thing the race director anointed a world champion,  a world champion I remind you I actually wanted by literally making up rules that never existed, I'm not welcome to watch a sport anymore.

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Smoothy

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Just now, sprite said:

They engineered it to get “racing drama” but it was stupid because it would only ever have gone the way it did due to the tyre situation. 

Fucking exactly.  Is Masi an F1 person or a fucking bean counter with no knowledge of how F1 works?

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Loik V credern

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3 minutes ago, cavalcade said:

F1 is entertainment. If it was a pure sport it would be "build the fastest car you can". There are regulations and all sorts of bullshit, like DRS. It's not like the 100m - "run this distance as fast as you can without taking drugs". There is no elegance and stripped back purity to F1. 

 

For every one person here bemoaning the purity of decisions there's 10 new people being brought to the sport by stuff like the Netflix drama. I haven't given a flying fuck about F1 for years, but the Netflix show gave me a window into the personalities of all the teams and now I follow it. And that's what it is (and what the Netflix drama reminded me) it's about human drama. Horner being a bit of a dick. Hamilton being about as sincere as a Tesco greetings card. Riccardio being a #bantsmaster. The cars are secondary. This ending, with all the controversy and weirdness and whining is brilliant for F1 and will help it push back on the rise of huge challenges coming from e-sports and a thousand other ways people might want to spend their time. 

 

Yeah but imagine you're a driver who is risking their life or an engineer working all hours, how can they be expected to give their all if it's all just a stupid farce. 

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Dudley

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Just now, Loik V credern said:

 

Yeah but imagine you're a driver who is risking their life or an engineer working all hours, how can they be expected to give their all if it's all just a stupid farce. 

 

It's their fault for not reading the script in advance.

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cavalcade

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1 minute ago, Dudley said:

 

Bullshit.

 

So I watch a sport for 30 years and I'm not welcome because I don't think it's a good thing the race director annotated a world champion,  a world champion I remind you I actually wanted by literally making up rules that never existed, I'm not welcome to watch a sport anymore.

 

You're (as in F1 "fans" here) are gatekeeping for other people and then getting annoyed when people try to gatekeep you. 

 

In 30 years of F1 there's never been a farce, human decision, dodgy bit of racing or other external force that has decided a race has there? Jog on.

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Dudley

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1 minute ago, cavalcade said:

 

You're (as in F1 "fans" here) are gatekeeping for other people and then getting annoyed when people try to gatekeep you. 

 

In 30 years of F1 there's never been a farce, human decision, dodgy bit of racing or other external force that has decided a race has there? Jog on.

 

Find me examples of them making up rules on the last lap of a season.

 

Almost all the things you mention are sport.

 

I am absolutely fucking gatekeeping people who want the winner to be scripted and pre-decided by committee yes.

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