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Glass Onion (Knives Out 2)


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5 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

Yeah, it’s a limited one week showing at I think Cineworld/Light and then straight to video later in the year. Baffling and feels like the distributor can’t be fucked with it.

It’s a Netflix movie, so it’s lucky to get into cinemas at all. Even when Netflix want to do it, they have been refused in the past. 

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Much more of a caper than the first one but that made me all the more glad I went out to the cinema for it. Huge audience reaction.

 

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Benoit Blanc as fish-out-of-water was a fun dynamic. I didn’t feel like it was as dramatically satisfying as the first one, I guess because the sympathetic character we’re rooting for isn’t as directly connected to the shitheads this time?

 

”This is hard kombucha! This is Jared Leto’s Hard Kombucha!” is poetry.

 

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Yeah I liked it, reading a lot saying the first hour is stronger but I preferred the second half where it re evaluates everything. The first half is like a hang out comedy with unlikeable characters with that bright cinematography I really dislike and in a setting that is supposed to be expensive but looks cheap. It's not lesser than Knives Out but different. 

 

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Loved the shot of Norton pulling his face in agony at watching the Mona Lisa burn, so well done. Norton has an ease and tranquility about him now that's kind of peculiar, it makes him perfect for this role because he's so rich nothing fazes him. You see that of politicians who like Boris can be called 'a nasty piece of work' on tv and not react. It's fun watching at what point Norton loses his cool like with his place being smashed. 

 

Norton's roles in the late 90s, early 00s were more him being pissed at everyone. In stuff like Red Dragon there's less of that but no tranquillity, he's in an inbetween state where he seems indifferent and a bit bored. 

 

Brad Pitt has this kind of ease now as well, it's an odd presence in films as in Once Upn A Time In Hollywood and Bullet Train where he's just zen. Like he's not acting so much. I generally think actors lose a spark of their earlier performances as they get older, but in this way I think it can come back, there's definitely a joy in Norton's performance like he's loving every line he gets to say. 

 

And least sincere 'I'm sorry for your loss' in history. 

 

I think the film will have longevity with all its colourful lines. It has so much more in it than stuff like See How They Run. 

 

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1 hour ago, Captain Novaforce said:

We watched this earlier today, loved it. Fantastic cast playing the worst people on the planet, misdirection, and a nice couple of twists. Hope Rian Johnson keeps making these.

 

Knives Out at a ski resort? On a cruise ship? I'm in.

 

 

Ski resort - perfect!

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Enjoyed this. For me it's not as good as Knives Out, but it ended very strongly. 

 

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I'd have preferred a traditional whodunit, for me it was very obvious Norton was the villain in this. But I felt the film was still trying to hide that fact until the reveal rather than deliberately getting the audience in on it. 

 

I liked the ending though. 

 

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6 hours ago, Protocol Penguin said:

Main thought watching this: Daniel Craig was wasted on Bond, wasn’t he?

 

My main thought with Daniel Craig in this is that he sounds a lot like Kevin Spacey in House Of Cards. Also very blue eyes.

 

Listening to the filmcast review, Jeff Cannata loved the film but had one issue...

 

Before I spoiler it, what do people think it might be? It's not obscure, it's a big plot point. 

 

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To take down Norton the Mona Lisa needs to burn, the audience needs to enjoy a piece of iconic art being permanently removed from existence, even though there are replicas and...it's not real. I was waiting for the Mona Lisa to burn, everyone is aren't they? I would have been disappointed to be denied that.

 

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1 hour ago, Thor said:

Enjoyed this. For me it's not as good as Knives Out, but it ended very strongly. 

 

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I'd have preferred a traditional whodunit, for me it was very obvious Norton was the villain in this. But I felt the film was still trying to hide that fact until the reveal rather than deliberately getting the audience in on it. 

 

I liked the ending though. 

 


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It was obvious, but was also meant to be obvious if that matters?

similarly the Mona Lisa as the gun.

 

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Re-watching that sequence I was struck by…

 

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How the framing and the ensemble’s reactions go from some good-natured, harmless catharsis, to “uh ok this is getting a bit mad” to “you’re going to do WHAT”, which is of course thematically perfect. You can’t expect people to get justice from being just the right amount of outraged and no more. Felt like a comment on the police brutality protests in the US.

 

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Oops forgot to at least register my annoyance over a character in a film finally finding the most important item in the world to them which everything hinges on that they've risked their life and nearly died to hold in their possession, only to then moments lately march towards the evil villain and hold out that same precious item where it's at its most vulnerable and flaunt it. I dunno, don't do that please, characters in films.

 

I was so sure it wasn't the real napkin because..come on! whyyyyy. no need. fuck me. 

 

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Yeah, it’s a lot of fun, but it doesn’t hold a candle to its predecessor, which, despite being pretty ‘out there’ as well, didn’t feel nearly as cartoony or contrived.

 

Still: more Blanc, please.

 

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Him solving the murder game before it even started was hilarious. “I had an expensive author write this!”

 

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