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After nearly destroying their flagship shooter with the big ol' flop that was Battlefield 5, EA are hoping to revitalise the fortunes of the series with Battlefield 6.

 

Creepy android man, and CEO of EA, Andrew Wilson has said it will be formally revealed in June and we can expect.

  • Epic scale
  • All-out warfare
  • Game-changing destruction
  • A true next-generation game!

* He also said it's going to be released on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.

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I don't trust Dice not to fuck it up again. I fell off V in a very bad way for various reasons. One of those was the very very niche reason of reduction of squad size from 5 to 4, which I realise is proper first world problems but here we are.

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Or the One/PS4 one will be hobbled in some way. Will EA allow cross play in it too? Cross generation AND cross platform? I doubt it. There are 4 studios working on it so maybe it'll have some kind of parity across platforms.

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I’m not sure there’s a market out there for a Battlefield title to do huge numbers. The battle royale obsession doesn’t look like slowing down. 
 

I actually more or less enjoyed BFV despite the glaring flaws. On PC they never did enough to combat cheaters and too many matches of conquest ended up as landslide victories. 

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Unless the next Battlefield is something very unique and fresh I don't have high hopes for it being a massive success. With the yearly CoD updates and all the similar modern warfare games I think the only way to get a monster hit is if you try something new. 

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What they can hope for is bringing back lapsed players who gave up after Battlefield 1s huge shift from 4. Battlefield just won't draw the CoD crowd in. It hasn't in the past and it never will.

 

I also think that Firestorm falling off the map soon after they launched it means they won't waste resources coming up with a new version. Maybe they will just focus on what makes Battlefield great and try not to deviate too far from that.

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Battlefield V was such a huge huge misstep, but one that I really hope DICE can get back from. I honestly can't remember a game that took so much of what I loved about a series and changed it for no good reason. Spotting, something that was never broken and allowed you to be really tactical in a squad, was completely hobbled thus leading to lone snipers being able to totally run games. Medics were given pea shooters in order to stop everyone just being medics, which meant the role wasn't remotely fun to play. 

 

I hope they've gone modern with it again. I really loved Battlefield 1 but it definitely felt a bit simplistic after all of the unlockables of 3/4. I basically want Bad Company 3. Make it a bit more lighthearted again, really lean into the destruction side of things that make the series so unique and please, for the love of god, fix spotting and make a game that's fun to play in squads (of 5). 

 

And stay the fuck away from Battle Royale. 

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It's hard to think what would get me interested in a Battlefield again, for the last few releases it's felt like a series that's suffered from its release schedule, each version coming with less and less content, more and more bugs, etc.

 

I bet it's literally just going to be a BF3/BF4 nostalgia game too, like CoD have been doing since 2016 <_<

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They're both shootymans but that's as far as it goes. I prefer CoD solo in multiplayer but Battlefield shines with a communicating squad. I just don't trust EA or Dice to make a decent version any more.

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14 minutes ago, vezna said:

I’m not sure there’s a market out there for a Battlefield title to do huge numbers. The battle royale obsession doesn’t look like slowing down. 
 

I actually more or less enjoyed BFV despite the glaring flaws. On PC they never did enough to combat cheaters and too many matches of conquest ended up as landslide victories. 


I do wonder about the market. COD continues to sell insane numbers though and all the big BR games are free so they’re not exactly competing for the same customers. You’re never going to be that big without being free but there’s clearly still people who are willing to say for an FPS. 

 

4 minutes ago, Rayn said:

Unless the next Battlefield is something very unique and fresh I don't have high hopes for it being a massive success. With the yearly CoD updates and all the similar modern warfare games I think the only way to get a monster hit is if you try something new. 


I think BF feels very different to COD though, and it’s the move away from modern settings that has put me off the last two where I’ve played hundreds of hours of 4. When BF is working it feels genuinely massive, with hundreds of soldiers in a giant battle and buildings collapsing and stuff. I think a version of that which actually utilised the power of new consoles could be breathtaking. Whereas if it’s just 4/1/V again but a bit nicer looking I don’t think it will be enough. They need bigger maps and player counts.

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2 hours ago, Rayn said:

A true next gen title that's also available on last gen....riiiight. 

 

Still possible if the last gen versions are built on the BF5 engine. Remember the BF4 launch (apart from the brokem, buggy mess), the previous gen versions were a HUGE step down.

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1 hour ago, moosegrinder said:

What they can hope for is bringing back lapsed players who gave up after Battlefield 1s huge shift from 4. 

 

 

This was our group. There was about 8 or 9 of us that regularly played BF4 & 4 none stop. We all dropped off 1 after a few weeks & the same with 5. Hopeing for a return to form.

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Watching the shitshow that was the development of Battlefield 5 was quite something,

 

Remember the reveal trailer with a wackier over-the-top tone and a soldier with a steampunk Bucky robot arm?

 


It was developed after things like Overwatch and Fortnite blew up and it's easy to imagine that the focus group he’ll that is EA AAA game development thought that cartoony larger than life characters = $$$. None of that is in the final game. It got a fairly negative reaction so they reworked whatever they were doing to a more ‘serious' traditional WW2 shooter.


It was also developed during the period when EA were in their peak how can we exploit the consumer at every turn phase. After all Andrew Wilson is the guy behind FIFA Ultimate Team and they thought that they could turn every property they have into a virtual casino. Then they released Battlefront 2 and dropped a gigantic turd in the gaming industry swimming pool. Suddenly you had world government's getting involved because EA had pushed skeeviness in games to a new level. Playing Battlefield 5 at release you could see the gaping scars where loot boxes would have been. Look at that trailer and tell me you can't smell 0.00000000001% of getting a gold robot arm for your soldier in some limited time event.

 

The other thing is they green lighted it during that period where there was a brief swell of people going, hey we haven't had a WW2 shooter for a while, they used to be neat. Then Call of Duty WW2 came out and everyone got it out of their system and remembered why they got bored of them in the first place. Next CoD is supposed to be going back to that setting, but that allegedly has more to do with troubled development and needing to reuse assets if rumours are to be believed. Battlefield 1 was ostensibly set during the First World War, but it was that anachronistic it may as well have been a WW2 game so 5 just looked tired and stale before it even came out.

 

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I want to return to BF3/BF4's modern era.  The weapons attachments and vehicles are more varied and interesting then, and more fun to play/unlock IMHO.

 

When I think about what a Battlefield game is, its city sized battles, shifting balance as the battle evolves.  With lots of building destruction.  I loved the "levolution" events.  They could lean into those more.

 

BF1 and BF V both left me cold, after being a massive BF fan.  So I'm happy to give them another chance, but I'm not hopeful!  I'd rather they went PC and next gen only, than water down the experience to shoehorn in last gen.

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17 minutes ago, Harsin said:

Watching the shotshow that was the development of Battlefield 5 was quite something,

 

Remember the reveal trailer with a wackier over-the-top tone with a soldier with a steampunk Bucky robot arm?

 


It was developed after things like Overwatch and Fortnite blew up and it's easy to imagine that the focus group he’ll that is EA AAA game development thought that cartoony larger than life characters = $$$. None of that is in the final game. It got a fairly negative reaction so they reworked whatever they were doing to a more ‘serious' traditional WW2 shooter.


It was also developed during the period when EA were in their peak how can we exploit the consumer at every turn phase. After all Andrew Wilson is the guy behind FIFA Ultimate Team and they thought that they could turn every property they have into a virtual casino. Then they released Battlefront 2 and dropped a gigantic turd in the gaming industry swimming pool. Suddenly you had world government's getting involved because EA had pushed skeeviness in games to a new level. Playing Battlefield 5 at release you could see the gaping scars where loot boxes would have been. Look at that trailer and tell me you can't smell 0.00000000001% of getting a gold robot arm for your soldier in some limited time event.

 

The other thing is they green lighted it during that period where there was a brief swell of people going, hey we haven't had a WW2 shooter for a while, they used to be neat. Then Call of Duty WW2 came out and everyone got it out of their system and remembered why they got bored of them in the first place. Next CoD is supposed to be going back to that setting, but that allegedly has more to do with troubled development and needing to reuse assets if rumours are to be believed. Battlefield 1 was ostensibly set during the First World War, but it was that anachronistic it may as well have been a WW2 game so 5 just looked tired and stale before it even came out.

 


Forgot about that trailer. God, what were they thinking.

 

They changed the tone mind you, but far far too late.

 

 

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I think that trailer looks a lot more interesting than the bland nothing they released. I absolutely see where it was likely to have been heavily monetised, but at least it’s got some personality. The final version of BFV could’ve been DLC for 1.

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What the hell has happened to Battlefield. I’m old school, I watched the 1942 trailer 20 years ago a week before it came out , played the demo and got obsessed along with all my friends. We even did a couple of mods with hover craft and hot air balloons.

 

Battlefield 2 was exceptional and so much better than the shit they released on console at the time. In fact Battlefield 3 was the first time Battlefield came to console IMO. 
 

I played a lot of Battlefield 4 too, it was very good but I never ever ever ever want to play a Battlefield single player again.

 

I got Battlefield V on plus, I had played the beta before but didn’t like it.

I loaded it up for a game and you can literally die with 3 shots. It’s an absolute mess. It looks lovely but is zero fun and they have moved so far away from the physics based vehicle mayhem from the original games , it’s like battlefront now almost.

 

Crap!

 

I think Apex does alot of thing right that could be transplanted into Battlefield to save it.

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14 minutes ago, Harrisown said:

What the hell has happened to Battlefield. I’m old school, I watched the 1942 trailer 20 years ago a week before it came out , played the demo and got obsessed along with all my friends. We even did a couple of mods with hover craft and hot air balloons.

 

Battlefield 2 was exceptional and so much better than the shit they released on console at the time. In fact Battlefield 3 was the first time Battlefield came to console IMO. 
 

I played a lot of Battlefield 4 too, it was very good but I never ever ever ever want to play a Battlefield single player again.

 

I got Battlefield V on plus, I had played the beta before but didn’t like it.

I loaded it up for a game and you can literally die with 3 shots. It’s an absolute mess. It looks lovely but is zero fun and they have moved so far away from the physics based vehicle mayhem from the original games , it’s like battlefront now almost.

 

Crap!

 

I think Apex does alot of thing right that could be transplanted into Battlefield to save it.

 

Battlefield 2 with the mod scene was the absolute pinnacle of battlefield.

 

Desert combat, project reality - we really were spoiled back then.

 

 

I've got REALLY fond memories of Battlefield 3 on the 360 despite how watered down it was. It also has what I consider the most effective trailer I can remember that demonstrated EXACTLY how next-gen the game was. Spectacular, and the game delivered on what the trailer promised.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Harrisown said:

I loaded it up for a game and you can literally die with 3 shots. It’s an absolute mess. 

 

See this doesn't bother me. We used to play BF4 and BF3 almost exclusively on Hardcore servers. I like the idea that if you're a person (not an alien or some form of super soldier) then you're dead in a handful of bullets. 

 

But regardless of the TTK, the whole game was just not great. The weapon customisations wasn't anywhere near as good as BF3/4, I didn't enjoy the maps as much. And the usual DICE nerfing anything that is effective was really annoying. (Although that's something that's always been an issue. Ever since BF3 they nerf anti air so much that it's mostly useless against air units, and totally uselss against ground units. Don't care what anywone says, you get lit up by a chaingun when you're running across the road, you should be dead. Even if that chaingun was designed to shoot at something in the sky).

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2 hours ago, Broker said:


it’s the move away from modern settings that has put me off the last two where I’ve played hundreds of hours of 4. When BF is working it feels genuinely massive, with hundreds of soldiers in a giant battle and buildings collapsing and stuff. I think a version of that which actually utilised the power of new consoles could be breathtaking. Whereas if it’s just 4/1/V again but a bit nicer looking I don’t think it will be enough. They need bigger maps and player counts.


This. I adored BF4 but the shift to historic turned me off. I’ve played a bit of V on Game Pass and quite enjoyed it but not long enough to see how the unlock system goes. It’s certainly kinetic though! A new near-future BF with huge maps and player counts and loads of weapons, scopes etc to unlock would be day 1 for me. 

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I have high hopes. There has never been a bad BF game. 

 

Yes some are worse than others but even the worst have some high points. 

 

Plus they have 4 developers working on this so I'm expecting it to be great. 

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Just now, Simmy said:

This has got to be a modern or near future game, right? Anything else would just be suicide at this point.

 

I think it's been leaked that it's near future. 

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1 hour ago, Ry said:

I have high hopes. There has never been a bad BF game. 

 

Yes some are worse than others but even the worst have some high points. 

 

Plus they have 4 developers working on this so I'm expecting it to be great. 


I totally agree. They’re all good multiplayer games and some are certainly better than others. I always come back to BFV as it’s a nice contrast to Apex Legends, Valorant, Counter-Strike etc. Even though it’s seriously unbalanced it’s nice to play a game that you just kill / die / respawn indefinitely. No requiring revived, respawned or sitting out the round.

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