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ZOK

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1 hour ago, Paulando said:


No shit. It’s literally a Switch with a screen that’s a bit better and a bit bigger. That’s why I’m buying one!


That’s why it’s such a massive disappointment. The list of improvements the Switch needs goes like this:

 

1) More power.

2) Everything else.

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7 minutes ago, ZOK said:


That’s why it’s such a massive disappointment. The list of improvements the Switch needs goes like this:

 

1) More power.

2) Everything else.

 

It's a weird one. They've chosen to improve the portable aspects of the one Switch which isn't specifically tailored towards the portable market. 

 

The lite desperately needs much smaller bezals and a bigger better screen for portable use. 

 

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1 hour ago, ZOK said:


It doesn’t have enough to run existing games properly.

 

We need an entirely new console for that though, not just an upgrade. I suppose a slight CPU boost wouldn't have hurt for @Mr Do 71's reasons and similar, but if you want 60fps across the board (like I do) that's new console territory I think.

 

I actually wouldn't mind them coming out with iPhone style iterative updates from now on. Just keep the Switch going forever and improve upon all the various aspects of it - it's the perfect form and has solved many an issue.

 

I think a SwitchCube extra small form console for TV-only play would work a treat. Package it with a Pro Controller. I'd have one of those AND a Lite.

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Yeah, it's not worth creating an entire new console and starting from 0 users again just because a portable machine can't quite get the frame rate a half decade newer TV console can on games people can play on other formats.

 

The Switch has got at least 3 years left I'd say, but that also makes it a bit late for a "Pro" update. especially when you've just confused matters with this screen thing.

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People definitely underestimate the impact a great display can have on a gaming experience, I reckon. I’d love a more powerful Switch too, but a vastly improved display will make me want to play all my games again (but maybe not The Outer Worlds lol).

 

I owned an OLED gaming laptop a few years ago, and absolutely loved it. Wonderful display. Then a bought a new laptop with a much faster GPU and a bigger 120Hz screen, but it was LCD. It looked great for an LCD, but I ended up sending it back. Even though the performance was better, it really felt something was lacking. The picture just didn’t have the depth that I was used to. More frames, but they didn’t look as good as on the OLED.

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11 hours ago, ZOK said:

It doesn’t have enough to run existing games properly.

 

Metroid Dread is out in about a week and looks glorious. The idea that Switch doesn't have enough power to deliver great games is nonsense. It's the most powerful handheld ever, enjoy it for what it is not what it isn't.

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9 minutes ago, rgraves said:

 

Metroid Dread is out in about a week and looks glorious. The idea that Switch doesn't have enough power to deliver great games is nonsense. It's the most powerful handheld ever, enjoy it for what it is not what it isn't.


I didn’t say that though did I?

 

It’s an unarguable fact that the Switch isn’t powerful enough to run games that are on it properly. If it was, Enter the Gungeon wouldn’t suffer from freezes during play, and BOTW wouldn’t suffer from slowdown, to name but two. 
 

That hasn’t prevented me from putting over 200 hours into both of them, or thinking they are both amazing.
 

Why anyone would not want the Switch to be better than it is and run these games properly is either a mystery, or just fanboy nonsense.

 

EDIT: And saying a game you haven’t played looks glorious is just silly. If you’ve not played it you don’t have a clue how it runs.

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18 minutes ago, ZOK said:

I didn’t say that though did I?

 

Yes you did - you said it "couldn't run existing games properly". Unless you're now saying that dropping a few frames from time to time is not running a game properly?

 

18 minutes ago, ZOK said:

It’s an unarguable fact that the Switch isn’t powerful enough to run games that are on it properly. If it was, Enter the Gungeon wouldn’t suffer from freezes during play, and BOTW wouldn’t suffer from slowdown, to name but two. 

 

"unarguable fact" - see the above - as far as I'm concerned, BOTW is just fine - yes it's not perfect - but what game ever is? Even on the X and PS5 games drop frames. Creators and developers will always push as far and as hard as they can. They'll use whatever power they can, and wish for more. A more powerful Switch would be exactly the same, it's always going to happen.

 

18 minutes ago, ZOK said:

That hasn’t prevented me from putting over 200 hours into both of them, or thinking they are both amazing.

 

So it *is* running games properly that you can enjoy then?

 

18 minutes ago, ZOK said:

Why anyone would not want the Switch to be better than it is and run these games properly is either a mystery, or just fanboy nonsense.

 

Of course I'd have liked the Switch to be more powerful - but at the time they released it, it was the most powerful handheld ever. I think people lose sight of what is placked into that tiny package. It's not fanboy nonsense to be realistic about the compromises that needed to be made to produce a hybrid console. It's fanboy nonsense to expect them to be able to deliver everything everyone else is doing on mains power in significantly larger form factors though....

 

18 minutes ago, ZOK said:

EDIT: And saying a game you haven’t played looks glorious is just silly. If you’ve not played it you don’t have a clue how it runs.

 

LOL - we've seen more than enough of it to know how it runs - and previews are out now that seem very positive. Am I silly for saying Dread looks great, or are you silly for saying that a handheld which has given us BOTW, Arms, Splatoon etc is  'not powerful enough to run games properly'?

 

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What people want the switch pro to be is the steam deck. Don’t get me wrong, I’m getting a deck (although not till ‘22). But one look at the deck tells you all the compromises you need to make for that to happen. 
 

Nintendo wouldn’t, in a million years make those compromises. It’s massive. It’s boiling hot. It pulls a wattage that’s just not sensible for scale.  It’s not suitable for a six year old kid. So it will never happen. 
 

I’m sure Nintendo’s next console will build on switch, and they might do a switch pro next year. But they’re not going to start competing for new silicon in 2021. No way. 
 

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My Switch spends most of its time docked & it's hooked up to a pretty good TV so the OLED model does nothing for me.

 

And yet... I still kinda want one.  I think i will get one eventually, perhaps next year when I'm allowed to travel again.

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Didn't I read somewhere that OLED screens are more power-efficient than LED's? 

 

I'm sure that's something that GameXplain, NintendoLife, Modern Vintage Gamer, etc will put to the test when they finally get their own units, but it seems that if there was a noticeable difference in Power consumption, Battery Life, etc from the LCD model that's something Nintendo would want to make a fuss about.

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Just cancelled both my Pre-Orders, I don’t NEED the upgrade, I've bought new JoyCons recently and mine is absolutely fine, there’s also a Lite in the household so this really would be wasting money for the sake of it.

 

Ill save the money for my Steam Deck.

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1 hour ago, rgraves said:

 

 

Yes you did - you said it "couldn't run existing games properly". Unless you're now saying that dropping a few frames from time to time is not running a game properly?

 

 

"unarguable fact" - see the above - as far as I'm concerned, BOTW is just fine - yes it's not perfect - but what game ever is? Even on the X and PS5 games drop frames. Creators and developers will always push as far and as hard as they can. They'll use whatever power they can, and wish for more. A more powerful Switch would be exactly the same, it's always going to happen.

 

 

So it *is* running games properly that you can enjoy then?

 

 

Of course I'd have liked the Switch to be more powerful - but at the time they released it, it was the most powerful handheld ever. I think people lose sight of what is placked into that tiny package. It's not fanboy nonsense to be realistic about the compromises that needed to be made to produce a hybrid console. It's fanboy nonsense to expect them to be able to deliver everything everyone else is doing on mains power in significantly larger form factors though....

 

 

LOL - we've seen more than enough of it to know how it runs - and previews are out now that seem very positive. Am I silly for saying Dread looks great, or are you silly for saying that a handheld which has given us BOTW, Arms, Splatoon etc is  'not powerful enough to run games properly'?

 


I can’t be bothered to refute this point by point - as I suspected you’ve not read what I’ve written, and the rest is fanboy nonsense.

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1 hour ago, Strafe said:

There’s about a billion hours of Metroid dread footage online so far and hands on previews with footage of people actually playing it. I think it’s fairly easy to tell how it runs at this point.
 

 


Let me repeat this for the hard of thinking: If you’ve not played it you don’t have a clue how it runs.

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1 minute ago, ZOK said:


Let me repeat this for the hard of thinking: If you’ve not played it you don’t have a clue how it runs.


Without having to trade back an insult,

I think you’re quite wrong. I mean, you could argue that unless you’ve played it you don’t have the definitive idea of how it runs but if you’re suggesting that you can’t watch footage and read impressions of trusted reviewers (or people on this forum), to get a good handle on how a piece of software performs then I think you’re very much incorrect.

 

You don’t have to double down on this, it’s ok to admit you might be off the mark here.

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8 minutes ago, Isaac said:

The fact that we aren't getting a more powerful Switch that can at least make it acceptable is a real shame.


Oh sure, that is a shame.

 

I don’t think anyone is against a more powerful Switch or Switch successor. But in lieu of that I’ll happily take one with a larger and vastly improved display (plus the improved battery life I missed out on).

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ZOK

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3 minutes ago, Paulando said:

I don’t even know what ZOK’s argument is at this point.


Why, can’t you read either? They’re all in today! It’s this:

 

The upgrade the Switch needs is more power.

 

If you look a few posts up you may be able to decode that from the posts saying exactly the same thing.

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