Forza Horizon 5

[Dimahoo]

1 hour ago, Waggo said:

Had a cracking couple of hours on it tonight, especially once I wheelspin won a Koenigsegg Jesko.  It truly is a stunning looking game, even at 350 mph!!!!

 

One thing notably missing from this realisation of Mexico though is any major cities.  We got Edinburgh in FH4, so I wonder if Mexico City is planned down the line as DLC?

 

Would make geographical sense given theres a Volcano.

 

I've got to say the sheer geographical changes of enviroment locations is really quite good in this. You get a bit of everything more then in any of the other series, which i suppose is expected.

 

Shame some of the landscape draw in late, esp. during huge jumps. Other then that though it looks amazing.

 

Quite funny as at the other end of the spectrum i'm playing GTA SA again on Xbox. Which looks a bit worse.

[Kryptonian]

Something odd happened with my map earlier. I got a server error message but I was going to the map at the same time. I had no icons on it but the announcer person said there were these new events, the icons started appearing on the map and I think they were mainly orange. If I hovered on them it said you’d win 10,000 cr or 2,500 cr for various races.

 

Next time I loaded the map the other icons were there but it looked like either the ‘new’ icons had gone or now you got 750 stars or something for doing them.

 

No idea why this happened or where the races you won credits for doing went.

 

There’s a seasonal drift thing too that says you need  S1 900 drift car but I don’t know what this is. I know it isn’t any of the S1 900 cars I do have cos the game tells me they aren’t eligible. Any ideas?

[Yoshimax]

30 minutes ago, Kryptonian said:

Something odd happened with my map earlier. I got a server error message but I was going to the map at the same time. I had no icons on it but the announcer person said there were these new events, the icons started appearing on the map and I think they were mainly orange. If I hovered on them it said you’d win 10,000 cr or 2,500 cr for various races.

 

Next time I loaded the map the other icons were there but it looked like either the ‘new’ icons had gone or now you got 750 stars or something for doing them.

 

No idea why this happened or where the races you won credits for doing went.

 

There’s a seasonal drift thing too that says you need  S1 900 drift car but I don’t know what this is. I know it isn’t any of the S1 900 cars I do have cos the game tells me they aren’t eligible. Any ideas?

i got this too. Servers are goosed.

[SeanR]

Does that sandstorm fuck off, eventually?

[strawdonkey]

Started this last night on the XBox One S, and I'm super impressed with how it looks and runs. Sure, it's 30fps but it looks amazing considering this is "last gen" hardware now.

 

It is completely inconceivable that there isn't a way to skip the cutscenes though, especially considering the significant loading times. Horizon 4 was awful for this in that when you unlocked something new, it would play a voiceover and completely lock you out of doing anything while the voice clip was running; this is still pretty bad every time you need to go back to the Horizon main camp and look at your character awkwardly waving at people from a stage for no reason.

 

The showcase events so far have been ridiculous and brilliant though, so I'm really looking forward to more of those along with some of the more curated events.

[footle]

7 hours ago, Waggo said:

Had a cracking couple of hours on it tonight, especially once I wheelspin won a Koenigsegg Jesko.  It truly is a stunning looking game, even at 350 mph!!!!

 

One thing notably missing from this realisation of Mexico though is any major cities.  We got Edinburgh in FH4, so I wonder if Mexico City is planned down the line as DLC?

historically that wouldn’t be out there enough for FH DLC. They don’t tend to extend the map, but have other areas and a new system; and then something silly.

 

FH3. blizzard mountain (snow, prepping for FH4), hot wheels,

FH4. fortune island (clearly looking at the tech they used in this for storms, sand storms), Lego world…

[Isaac]

Someone hacked the PC version to get the raytracing working everywhere, not just in Forza Vista mode:

 

 

[Meers]

On 10/11/2021 at 19:01, Pockets said:

The people saying 30fps is fine must think stick man flick books are on par with Pixar films. I thought I’d get over my snobbiness and give it a go. It’s like fucking stop motion by comparison. 

 

On 10/11/2021 at 20:18, Pockets said:

No matter how many times people say 30 is better they’re not going to change my mind. Opinions innit. Maybe we should save them for, I dunno, a discussion forum or something. 

 

I never said 30fps is better. Hell no. I've been a 60fps+ preacher ever since F-Zero on the SNES. Everything should be 60fps by default, or higher, especially on the new hardware and even if it's at the cost of resolution. And first time hearing that the Series consoles are running FH5 in 30fps quality mode made me 🤨.

 

BUT...

 

On One X FH5 runs buttery smooth in 30fps, as far as you can call 30fps buttery smooth that is. Frame time is very low and the rate is locked so there's hardly any latency or frame skips whatsoever. It's probably the reason they only went for quality mode for One X instead of the 1080p60 they had in FH4 (which is not an option in the One X version anymore). But it shows that 30fps is perfectly acceptable if done well, like this.

[StumpyJohn]

5 hours ago, Yoshimax said:

i got this too. Servers are goosed.

Yeah, stability seemed a lot worse last night.  Was disconnected loads of times and had quite a few glitches including one where all other cars totally disappeared.  Was pretty fun blasting around for a while on totally empty roads though.

 

Lack of other players participating in the forzathon arcade is really annoying, did 3 last night and had only 1 co-player across all 3 making them totally impossible to complete.  Overall player numbers are probably as high now as they will ever be so think they need to make some kind of change to make these actually do-able.  

[dataDave]

10 minutes ago, Isaac said:

Someone hacked the PC version to get the raytracing working everywhere, not just in Forza Vista mode:

 

 

I’ve no idea why they didn’t just launch the PC version like this. 

[Mortis]

Didn’t want to overshadow the MS consoles too much probably - yes you’ll need a few grand worth of kit to make it look like that but it doesn’t make marketing sense for a 1st party game. 

[Meers]

5 minutes ago, Fallows said:

I’ve no idea why they didn’t just launch the PC version like this. 

 

Really weird, yeah. But at least you can 'tweak' that stuff on PC.

[footle]

11 minutes ago, Fallows said:

I’ve no idea why they didn’t just launch the PC version like this. 

whereas I’m watching it and wondering whether I can tell the difference, given how good the cubemaps are; but that’s often the case with raytracing videos. Presume it’s steam only for now?

[Meers]

@davejm, I had a bit of time to set the game up on PC with my CSL wheel and it crashes the game after a bit of play on my system as well. Feels amazing to drive this time around, like you described. They really upped their FFB game in this.

 

But they really need to patch the crashing bug stat.

 

Running in 1080p60 and it looks and runs brilliantly! Missing the HDR though as my sim rig TV doesn't support it. Oh well.

[footle]

18 minutes ago, Meers said:

 

 

I never said 30fps is better. Hell no. I've been a 60fps+ preacher ever since F-Zero on the SNES. Everything should be 60fps by default, or higher, especially on the new hardware and even if it's at the cost of resolution. And first time hearing that the Series consoles are running FH5 in 30fps quality mode made me 🤨.

 

BUT...

 

On One X FH5 runs buttery smooth in 30fps, as far as you can call 30fps buttery smooth that is. Frame time is very low and the rate is locked so there's hardly any latency or frame skips whatsoever. It's probably the reason they only went for quality mode for One X instead of the 1080p60 they had in FH4 (which is not an option in the One X version anymore). But it shows that 30fps is perfectly acceptable if done well, like this.

l really liked the 30fps series x mode.

then spent the weekend playing 60fps on pc, and as expected, couldn’t go back.

[Meers]

3 minutes ago, footle said:

whereas I’m watching it and wondering whether I can tell the difference, given how good the cubemaps are; but that’s often the case with raytracing videos. Presume it’s steam only for now?

 

I have that with most raytracing vids really. I need to look up a comparison video methinks.

 

But the option should be there by default for PC regardless.

[footle]

2 minutes ago, Meers said:

 

I have that with most raytracing vids really. I need to look up a comparison video methinks.

I doubt a comparison video will help. I’ll probably just have to install the mod, but raytracing just some parts of scenes never has the same impact.

[Minion]

Re: The difficulty, I found similar with FH4 which I played only recently, I kept on upping the difficulty until I got to the point where I had to have a tuned up car to the max of that class to have a chance. This in effect turned all cars into AWD and made them all feel similar and it wasn't long after this that I became bored. I'm determined not to do the same in this and to have all the cars feel as intended in stock to maintain the character of the cars, so I've currently got it on Highly Skilled and it feels ok. 

 

Changing the subject is there a way to restart an event after it completes without losing all the xp and stuff you earnt during your previous go? It's more for the point to point races where if I don't come first it would be nice to warp back to the start for another try without losing everything I got from the previous try?

[thesnwmn]

I just wish the game wouldn't ask you to up th difficulty after winning lots in a row by quite a margin. I have it on Highly Skilled. It keeps me driving well but without any stress. I can beat some higher difficulties but I'm not interested in really competing with the AI at all (in this or any racing game) any more. What's the point? A few more credits. What's better about losing? I guess in a smaller game the challenge is winning. In FH I think the challenge is exploration and play.

[RubberJohnny]

1 hour ago, Fallows said:

I’ve no idea why they didn’t just launch the PC version like this. 

 

They use the RT for the audio in the main game, it only switches to lighting in Forzavista where audio is less important.

[Meers]

5 minutes ago, RubberJohnny said:

 

They use the RT for the audio in the main game, it only switches to lighting in Forzavista where audio is less important.

 

So if RT = 100%, you have to devide that between audio and visuals? 😯

[dataDave]

16 minutes ago, Meers said:

 

So if RT = 100%, you have to divide that between audio and visuals? 😯

 

Easiest choice ever.

[dataDave]

Is there any way we can get some forum races done on this? I'm on the verge of uninstalling it. The most fun I've had outside of the intro has been donuting my F40 around for few seconds.

[CheekyLee]

37 minutes ago, thesnwmn said:

I just wish the game wouldn't ask you to up th difficulty after winning lots in a row by quite a margin.

I think I'm on Normal, but don't really know for sure. I got asked if I wanted to take it down after losing a few, to which my reply was "3RD ISN'T LOSING!" and I promptly won the next one out of sheer bloody-mindedness. For now I just want to focus on getting all the stuff out there.

 

7 minutes ago, Fallows said:

Is there any way we can get some forum races done on this?

I'm sure it will happen sooner or later, but for now you can hit the Monthly Rivals event to beat my time if you want? I believe that so far there are only 2 times from the MUK club, unless more have tried it overnight.

[dataDave]

Just now, CheekyLee said:

I'm sure it will happen sooner or later, but for now you can hit the Monthly Rivals event to beat my time if you want? I believe that so far there are only 2 times from the MUK club, unless more have tried it overnight.

 

Thanks. I'll give it a smash.

[Pete]

I got Forza 4 only last August, was still playing that this weekend and found out 5 was coming to game pass. Can't believe it.

 

So far I don't like the scenery as much or the cars, but it's early days. The menus are slightly less confusing, but how I progress seems more confusing than before.

 

No doubt I'll be playing this though all the time, I just love driving around aimlessly. The really high volcano is pretty awesome as well.

 

One question, how do I stop the game beeping at me? It was annoying in 4 but it's much more annoying in this.

 

 

[Isaac]

Excuse the boring PC technical chat, but thanks to that Digital Foundry video I have upped the resolution of this to 4K (despite playing on a 1440p monitor) and it's massively improved the draw distance and pop in, confirming that the settings are a bit fucked at the moment.

 

I also enabled 16x AF in the NVidia control panel as apparently the setting is broken in game.

 

Still, much happier with how this looks now, as the pop in was distracting on the native resolution. And it still runs at well over 60fps.

[scoobysi]

17 minutes ago, Isaac said:

Excuse the boring PC technical chat, but thanks to that Digital Foundry video I have upped the resolution of this to 4K (despite playing on a 1440p monitor) and it's massively improved the draw distance and pop in, confirming that the settings are a bit fucked at the moment.

How did you do that, I didn’t think it let you go above the resolution of your display?

[Isaac]

Just now, scoobysi said:

How did you do that, I didn’t think it let you go above the resolution of your display?

 

My monitor (and most modern 1440p monitors) has a built in scaler that allows it to display 4k content, downscaled to 1440p.

 

This is primarily to enable compatibility with 4k video content (such as blu rays) but it works for basically anything else too.

[scoobysi]

Hmm maybe I’ll try playing it on my monitor, I’m putting it out to my 1080P TV at the mo.