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Everton have 2 more games in March - Wolves and Newcastle - both at home.  If they don't get at least 3 or 4 points from those 2 games then in April they have West Ham (a), Man U (h), Liverpool (a), Chelsea (h).  Bar, maybe Man U - those look unlikely to yeild any points so they could be in the deep shit gong into May.

 

Burnley have Brentford (a), Man City (h), Norwich (a), West Ham (a), Wolves (h) and Watford (a) by end of April.  

 

Watford have Wolves (a), Southampton (a), Liverpool (a), Leeds (h), Brentford (h), Man City (a), Burnley (h) by end of April.

 

Norwich have Chelsea (h), Leeds (a), Brighton (a), Burnley (h), Man U (a), Newcastle (h) and Villa (a)

 

Leeds is Villa (h), Norwich (h), Wolves (a), Southampton (h), Watford (a), Chelsea (h), Palace (a), Man City (h)

 

Brentford is Burnley (h), Leicester (a), Chelsea (a), West Ham (h), Watford (a), Spurs (h), Man U (a)

 

So every other team down the bottom has 2 or 3 games against the other teams down the bottom by the end of April except Everton who have none.  So even best case for Everton is some of their rivals are getting points at the expense of others teams in the bottom 6.  Watford have home games against relegation rivals.

 

 

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Or Queen of the South should sign Denzil Dumfries.  
 

 

I watched the Salzburg - Bayern game last week, it had the hint of an upset about it until Bayern equalised in second half injury time to take the game back to Germany 1-1.  Second leg and Lewandowsi scores a hat trick within twenty minutes. Bayern are 4-0 up after half an hour. 

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23 hours ago, Ork1927 said:

Watford have home games against relegation rivals.

 

We've picked up 7 points at home all season. 3 were on the first day of the season and 3 were against Man Utd in Ole's farcical swansong. There's no advantage there unfortunately.

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21 hours ago, Stoppy2000 said:

Lampard has never been any good as a manager. He's now doing his best to shift all the blame on to Benitez. Classic Frank. 

It's a bit like Man U.  When do you stop blaming managers and start blaming the players for being so shit.

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What’s Lampard’s plan for Everton btw? I was thinking about this earlier, but at Chelsea he got by by having lots of really good players. At Derby he got by by loaning players from Chelsea (Mason Mount and Fikayo Tomori were regulars in the Derby team) but at Everton he’s actually got to work for a living. I can’t see them going down, even if its just because interesting things tend not to happen in football, but where will Lampard be in two years? On the television  punditry circuit? 

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16 hours ago, Naysonymous said:

What’s Lampard’s plan for Everton btw? I was thinking about this earlier, but at Chelsea he got by by having lots of really good players. At Derby he got by by loaning players from Chelsea (Mason Mount and Fikayo Tomori were regulars in the Derby team) but at Everton he’s actually got to work for a living. I can’t see them going down, even if its just because interesting things tend not to happen in football, but where will Lampard be in two years? On the television  punditry circuit? 

 

Yep, everyone overstates how good he was at Derby, he had three high quality Prem standard players carrying him.

 

For a lot of our wins we'd play like shit only for Harry Wilson to bang one in from 35 yards.

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It would be pretty crazy if he gets sacked before the end of the season, with PSG 13 points clear in the league, and ends up having spent nearly two years at PSG having only won the French Cup.

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Always can enjoy performances, though it's sad to see Messi not be in attacking areas. There was a memorable moment when he was dribbling towards the half way line on a break and Modric chased him and cleanly tackled him, the tumble seemed rough but Messi just rolled and got up like a weary old boxer used to it, a kind of stern look on his face, you see the ruthless competitiveness in players like Messi in moments like that, not looking back like 'who was that, what happened there'. No appreciation shown to old foe Modric. It was an early indication of how Modric would influence the game changing to a Madrid win, it's interesting for narratives like that, big players whose quality just endures, who shouldn't have the legs to do what they're doing. People were iffy about his Ballon d'Or a few years ago but his main quality that puts him above most other midfielders in history i think, doing whatever his team needs in defence or attack in the right moment was shown here, the chasing back tackle and the surging run, then the pass to Benzema.Also a very close shot. He has the engine and commitment to do it, and his decision making is spot on. At 36 after winning 4 Champions Leagues for Madrid, at a point in a game where Madrid are still expected to accept losing, can a player be neccessarily bothered to wrestle the game in their team's favour.

 

obviously haha psg etc no one cares, but listening to espn, they're railing about Neymar not chasing back here when he loses the ball:

 

 

He does, but is it half arsed, i can't tell. He ought to be quicker than 36 year old Modric (age must be repeated) and maybe he ought to just take him out, but i think he's genuine about his lunge. Verrati doesn't think Modric will keep running and adjusts his position right to close off a pass allowing him a keep going and so has zero positive influence in preventing that goal despite being Psg's key midfielder.

 

I get that football at the highest level is so fast none of us would cope, that we take for granted the skill these guys have in controlling any pinged pass, or their awareness in evading being pressed, that they have moments hardwired into them from playing since they were 5 years old and the ball control to react in fractions of a second. That on the pitch the game must be a frenzy of players moving. When more players are added in 5 a side after playing it for years i find it bewildering, like from 5 to 8 it's so different. But however frenzied it is surely for the opposition to score they need to reduce their passing to just a few, that for all the frenzy there are just a few moves defenders need to be wary of. Like i dunno, Vinicius endlessly getting in behind on Psg's right.

 

As soon as Modric picks up the ball he's thinking to pass to Vincius and Psg ought to be like; we're high here, that guy's a danger in behind. And then just leaving Benzema entirely alone for Modric to pick him out. There are Psg bodies everywhere and it's like Benzema is invisible. No.5 Marquinhos genuinely appears like he can't see Benzema. No.25 Nuno Mendes appears to run back to follow Benzema but then just casually walks past him into a nowhere space for no reason. Marquinhos meanwhile looks for some reason back to his right when Modric receives the ball, for any possible pass square on the edge of the box but he knows there are two defenders behind him and one marking Vinicius. He is closest to the main danger, the striker who just scored, if he gets goal side Benzema doesn't score another. Obviously haha etc and if defenders didn't forget strikers are there fewer goals would be scored and that wouldn't create great games like that. Maybe it's just watching Man United being shite is getting to me. tldr i don't think defending is that difficult when mistakes boil down to literally ignoring the best players in the world in the box.

 

And also yeah Verrati, what is the point of his contribution in sprinting back to press Vinicius when he can't shoot with 3 bodies blocking him and there's no outlet for him. The only danger is..Modric left entirely alone outside the box, Vincius knowing as soon as he passes a considerable distance across and outside of the box all the Psg defenders will shift and create new gaps. Psg's defenders ball watched like mad in that second half. On the plus side if i'd prefer Ten Hag for Man United...not that falling apart isn't specific to Psg before Pochettino was there, but it's still a knock on him how it happened again.

 

I'd honestly pay probably about £10 to watch a reaction video of Julien Laurens watching that game last night. I don't hate him..i'm just saying i would.

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Abramovich sanctioned and assets frozen. But the government are granting Chelsea a special licence to allow the club to operate as normal, just without him having any benefit.

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"Today's sanctions obviously have a direct impact on Chlesea and its fans. We have been working hard to ensure the club and the national game are not unnecessarily harmed by these important sanctions," Ms Dorries posted on Twitter.

 

"To ensure the club can continue to compete and operate we are issuing a special licence that will allow fixtures to be fulfilled, staff to be paid and existing ticket holders to attend matches while, crucially, depriving Abramovich of benefiting from his ownership of the club.

 

"I know this brings some uncertainty, but the government will work with the league and clubs to keep football being played while ensuring sanctions hit those intended. Football clubs are cultural assets and the bedrock of our communities. We're committed to protecting them."

 

 

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