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Mr. Gerbik

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5 minutes ago, Ry said:

Why would anyone pay the extra for storage (and its a fair increase) when you can buy SD cards for buttons these days?

 

In 75% in for one. Need more details. 

Have you ever compared the speed of an NVMe SSD to that of an SD card? 

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Jamie John

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I don't think it looks to bad. It looks about what I'd expect a handheld PC to look like. Shame the screen isn't OLED.

 

Could you potentially get the Epic Games Store running in this, then? All of those free games I've never touched...

 

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1 minute ago, Jamie John said:

I don't think it looks to bad. It looks about what I'd expect a handheld PC to look like. Shame the screen isn't OLED.

 

Could you potentially get the Epic Games Store running in this, then? All of those free games I've never touched...

 

It's a PC, you can run anything you want on it

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10 minutes ago, ImmaculateClump said:

 

The higher capacity storage versions use NVMe SSD's. I also noticed that the most expensive unit is the only one that has a none reflective matte screen :lol: That should be standard for every model.


I wonder if you could get the 64Gb model and open it up and replace the nvme ssd with something bigger, like a 970 Pro 1TB?

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You can pay extra for fast SD cards, although I don't know if they're anywhere near NVMe speeds. Maybe put smaller/less consequential games on the SD card.

 

I've bought Android tablets and a Surface over the years to pretty much do what this thing does, and I'd be all over this if I were still looking for that. Bet it'll be utterly bonkers for emulation, too.

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2 minutes ago, Mystacon said:

I wonder if you could get the 64Gb model and open it up and replace the nvme ssd with something bigger, like a 970 Pro 1TB?


It's something I'd like to know myself - neither eMMC, SSDs or Micro SD cards are notably reliable storage, so being able to open these things up and replace the storage when you start getting bad sectors is going to be a deal breaker.

I'll hold off any comfort comments until I've heard impressions. I'm certain I'll be able to get my hands on one or read impressions before my reservation gets called up.

Which, in turn, is one thing I'll praise Valve for right off the bat - actually being able to pre-order with a manufacturer directly and just sit tight for a unit instead of retail bollocks. Extremely welcome.

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I think I’m definitely in for this. It’s like a Switch with proper horse power, plus the games are cheaper than on consoles. This is where I’ll be playing my indie and retro stuff going forward. Really into it, and I’ve never been a PC gamer.

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30 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

Valve must have been hooting with laughter over the reaction to the Switch Pro rumours and the eventual end result. It’s like Nintendo whipped up an audience for them.

 
Nintendo didn't start those rumours though.

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The initial price might appear slightly high (especially for ones with more storage) but given how cheap so many PC games are (especially indies), all other game launchers, ability to mod games, retro stuff... it starts to sound really appealing. 

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10 minutes ago, TehStu said:

I've bought Android tablets and a Surface over the years to pretty much do what this thing does, and I'd be all over this if I were still looking for that. Bet it'll be utterly bonkers for emulation, too.


If it's anywhere near the Aya Neo, absolutely:
 


Note the Aya Neo is 6c6t @ 4Ghz, so compared to this the Steam Deck (4c8t @ 3.5) will probably struggle a little with Switch and PS3 emulation. Although you can argue that Switch and PS3 emulation is simply nowhere mature enough yet - Yuzu just recently had a private test update that ups frame rate up to a third.

It'll smash PS2/Saturn/Wii U, though. And with Saturn emulation, you get the bonus of imagining you're holding a brand new Sega Nomad:
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And this time, the handles are equally shaped!

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It's running SteamOS (Linux) out of the box, game compatibility will be poor. It's also only WiFi 802.11ac, not WiFi6, so not ideal for Streaming..

 

The AYA NEO seems the better product out of the box (apart from the digital triggers!).

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Jamie John

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I wouldn't use this for the latest games (or even stuff like Control and Fallen Order, which they show in the trailer), but for most indie games, as well as my back catalogue of last gen and 360 gen games, it looks perfect, not to mention Xbox remote play, it looks pretty perfect.

 

Pre-orders go live tomorrow at 5pm (I think). You have to pay £4 to reserve. Hopefully it's not a scalper's paradise.

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1 minute ago, AlexM said:

It's running SteamOS (Linux) out of the box, game compatibility will be poor. It's also only WiFi 802.11ac, not WiFi6, so not ideal for Streaming..

 

The AYA NEO seems the better product out of the box (apart from the digital triggers!).

 

"On the software side of things, the Steam Deck runs what Valve is calling ‘a new version of SteamOS,’ that its optimized for the handheld’s mobile form factor. But the actual OS is based on Linux, and will utilize Proton as a compatibility layer to allow Windows-based games to run without requiring that developers specifically port them for the Steam Deck."

 

The first 48 hours of preorders are only open to Steam accounts that have bought a game on Steam before June, so that's hopefully going to help a little. 

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4 minutes ago, Radish said:

 

"On the software side of things, the Steam Deck runs what Valve is calling ‘a new version of SteamOS,’ that its optimized for the handheld’s mobile form factor. But the actual OS is based on Linux, and will utilize Proton as a compatibility layer to allow Windows-based games to run without requiring that developers specifically port them for the Steam Deck."

Don't get too excited about that.

 

https://github.com/kozec/proton-compatibility-list/blob/master/compatibility-list.md#

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love a great handheld gaming device to play all of my PC games, but this doesn't look to be it (without far more tinkering than I'd be prepared to do).

 

Seeing the posts above about playing Game Pass games, Epic Store, etc., don't expect that to work out of the box, that's all.

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6 minutes ago, AlexM said:

Don't get too excited about that.

 

https://github.com/kozec/proton-compatibility-list/blob/master/compatibility-list.md#

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love a great handheld gaming device to play all of my PC games, but this doesn't look to be it (without far more tinkering than I'd be prepared to do).

 

Seeing the posts above about playing Game Pass games, Epic Store, etc., don't expect that to work out of the box, that's all.

 

I think that list is a bit outdated, look at https://www.protondb.com/

 

More concerned with how well the controls work.

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