Amiga 500 Mini - £119.99, due 2022

[Lorfarius]

No point, I bought a Pi400 and loaded it with a full Pi Amiga WB setup. 128GB of glorious Amiganess.

[Stoppy2000]

The main problem is that not a lot of Amiga games are still worth playing. £120 is also far too much. 

[the_debaser]

Really needs a Quickshot Maverick joystick. 

[gingerling]

Hmm. I don't like the look of the pad. I wonder if USB joysticks would work. I'd be tempted to get the best joystick of all time the Competition Pro. Obviously the Zip Stick was the poor option 😜

[Gabe]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

Wouldn't a working keyboard be pointless? Unless you actually want to type on it with the aid of a toothpick. It'd be far too small to use, surely?

I haven't looked at the specs to see just how 'mini' mini is, to be fair.

 

1 hour ago, Avuncular said:

You can use a USB keyboard.

That, to me, would rob the appeal of the device to me. I would want a working mini system, not some shell that I'd need to add things to to get the full experience. I didn't know the C64mini keyboard didn't work either (again, never actually seen one in videos or anything), so I've learned something from this thread at least.

[Lorfarius]

1 hour ago, Stoppy2000 said:

The main problem is that not a lot of Amiga games are still worth playing. 

 

You could say that about any system, try working your way through the Wii library and not tearing your hair out 

[Stoppy2000]

2 minutes ago, Lorfarius said:

 

You could say that about any system, try working your way through the Wii library and not tearing your hair out 

I mean the Wii still has some games worth playing - probably more than the Amiga. Don't get me wrong I was an Amiga owner and used to love mine - but those games are mostly better left in the past. 

[Lorfarius]

12 minutes ago, Stoppy2000 said:

I mean the Wii still has some games worth playing - probably more than the Amiga. Don't get me wrong I was an Amiga owner and used to love mine - but those games are mostly better left in the past. 

 

I ran a weekly Amiga podcast for over 2 years covering each games history and reviewing over a 100 games, there were certainly way more than you think worth playing. Loads still hold up today and its a fantastic system to go back to. Things like the music still stand up incredibly as well.

 

 

[LaveDisco]

As a kid owning an Amiga I remember playing Alien Breed 3D on it, whilst magazines and teletext and Mr Biffo were shitting all over it and telling me it was worthless and dead. They were right, but they were killjoys. 
 

im glad rllmuks here to recreate that experience for the mini. 

[SqueakyG]

I haven't needed any of the mini consoles -- full romsets and appropriate emulators do the job fine.

 

But I've still bought all the mini consoles! Can't help myself, they're lovely. A good excuse to actually play the games on them, and then a nice shelf ornament afterwards.

 

The price of this one is concerning. This should be £70, with a full-size replica with working keyboard for £120, much like TheC64. And only 25 games? I know you'll be able to sideload WHDLoad files, but 25 built in games is meagre. Alien Breed 3D but not... you know... Alien Breed? Oh dear. It's also a shame that they can't get the Amiga or Commodore branding.

 

I've pre-ordered, but will cancel if the price doesn't come down or it continues to raise red flags.

[matt0]

There was a thread in the retro folder where a few of us did a rundown of all the Amiga games we felt were still worth playing and it turned out to be way more than I first thought, there were loads I'd forgotten. The problem is how many of those were based on licensed IP which has lapsed, or the IP is lost in the ether or unlikely to be licensed out (I don't see the Monkey Islands or any Ultima games ending up on this thing but you never know...).

[gingerling]

I’m looking forward to play some top down racing games. The Amiga had some excellent ones. Skid Marks, Super Cars 2 and Indie 500 off the top of my head.

They may not hold up well but it’ll be a great trip down memory lane. 

[gingerling]

Also surely  IK+ still stands up today! 

[Yoshimax]

7 hours ago, neoELITE said:

Chaos Engine was brilliant. I loved that game. 

The list of games is a bit sparse. This is going to sell about four units. Who would buy it?

 

That K guy?

[Escape]

9 hours ago, matt0 said:

I'd pay through the nose for an Analogue style FGPA Amiga.

 

Not this though.

 

FPGA with VGA-out for £120, absolutely. Then we'd all scoot on Gumtree for local CRTs.

 

Amiga emulation coupled with modern displays over HDMI has crippling input lag. RoboCod's one of the easier platformers from its era, but when I played it on my laptop I found several parts incredibly difficult. I'd never have had the patience without quicksaves, when natively it's quite a relaxing game.

[stan]

if the Settlers is on this (and it can handle size 8 maps) this is worth ten times the asking price

[TurningMonster]

Clearly this was the best controller

 

 

 

[krenzler]

Where's all the Cinemaware titles?

[GamesGamesGames]

In another life I'd grab this and a zipstick, and wander the globe as an itinerant Kick Off 2 hustler.

[womblingfree]

£120?

 

[Not Thread Owner]

16 hours ago, Vimster said:

16 hours ago, Number 28 said:

 

ROMs are a moot point. A lot of stuff is probably fine but there are others that are debateable. Obviously with these Mini consoles they've negotiated being able to include the games, but if this Amiga one is like TheC64 it'll let you play your own ROMs somehow, although that would be trickier.

Have they even said you can change the ROMs though? If you can then legally you’re supposed to dump them yourself got licence them from Cloanto (I think they still own them). Unless it supports that free alternative or you don’t care on the legality

 

More than that, some of the games shown seem to be A1200 games so presumably it does KS3.x already, so not sure there’s a need to change ROMs at all.

 

Maybe it includes 1.3, 2.x and 3.x as it is. Would make sense for game compatibility if they’re going to allow you to use your own disk images.

[Ninja Doctor]

Yea they have said you can run adf and hdf from usb

[Dudley]

Oh this is a new thread in normal games.

 

Ok

 

The creator harasses women online and is a long term ip troll despite being a copyright thief himself.

 

But since believe women only exists until you can pay over the odds for an emu box, do carry on.

[GamesGamesGames]

4 minutes ago, Dudley said:

But since believe women only exists until you can pay over the odds for an emu box, do carry on.

 

Had you considered, just maybe, that this wasn't common knowledge?

 

Which I appreciate you pointing out by the way - just don't care for your tone in doing so.

[Dudley]

Sorry that's fair, there's been a retro version of this thread for months and the usual "Demand proof" trope is in full effect.  So I intended to one and done this to make sure it was there.  I've given up trying to convince people.

[Marlew]

I don't know what the last sentence of your previous post is meant to say. I have zero interest in this anyway but I can't understand what I assume was a decent mic drop moment. 

[Giddas]

33 minutes ago, Dudley said:

Oh this is a new thread in normal games.

 

Ok

 

The creator harasses women online and is a long term ip troll despite being a copyright thief himself.

 

But since believe women only exists until you can pay over the odds for an emu box, do carry on.

“harasses women” 😄

 

I hope they are out of therapy now

[Uncle Mike]

What an odd way to react to that claim.

[ScouserInExile]

15 hours ago, Yoshimax said:

£120.

 

for an amiga.

 

in 2021.

 

🤣

I sold an Amiga A1200 and a stack of games for £500 earlier this year. They're pretty sought after.

 

As are these mini things. They sell out pretty fast. I bought myself a The C64 when they came out because I have a lot of nostalgia for it, but really couldn't be arsed with buying and setting up a real one. I pre-ordered well in advance, but still nearly didn't get one. I didn't like the idea of the Mini, because you need a keyboard with a micro. I also found emulation a bit awkward, again because the keyboard layout is different. The C64 essentially solved all those issues - it's plug and play on modern displays and it has the proper keyboard.

 

Which then brings me to the problem with this mini - the keyboard doesn't work and, as I've already said, you need a keyboard with a micro. Lots of the games need mouse and keyboard* and an on-screen keyboard, or setting up buttons as certain keys for individual games, is just a faff.

 

* there's a pretty funny example in Commodore's past of why not having a keyboard doesn't work - the pack in game for the Commodore 64 GS, which was a "console version" of a C64 without a keyboard, was Terminator 2. When you booted the game up, you were prompted to press any key to start.

[Dudley]

20 minutes ago, Uncle Mike said:

What an odd way to react to that claim.

 

Yep, a depressingly repeating pattern, which is why I won't go on about it but this was a new thread so I thought it should be in there.

 

Will be interesting to see if a few people ever post in #metoo like threads again though.