Formula One - 2022 - Rllmuk League is live

[jonathanhoey]

23 hours ago, fragglerock said:

 

It seems pretty obvious to me that if any part of the wheel is on the outside of the line then that line has been crossed, but not in the wild world of F1 regs.

 

 

In the immortal words of Daniel Ricciardo: "Put a fucking wall there, then they won't do it." 

 

I'm not necessarily saying the pit exit line should be a physical wall. But conceptually it should be treated like one, and plainly isn't. 

[ryodi]

1 hour ago, Blue said:

I too missed the race live. Was it explained why the last restart was a rolling rather than a standing start? I thought it had been ruled that a standing restart was to be the norm now and the track was basically dry by that point. It would have made for a more exciting restart.

There was a power failure that meant the start lights mechanism didn’t work at the start of the race. It was apparently fixed but they weren’t confident that it would work so they decided to do a rolling start just to be safe.

[Blue]

15 minutes ago, ryodi said:

There was a power failure that meant the start lights mechanism didn’t work at the start of the race. It was apparently fixed but they weren’t confident that it would work so they decided to do a rolling start just to be safe.

Ah yes, I did see something about that in Ted's notebook, thank you. So it probably would have been a standing start if the lights weren't playing up? Another part of the Leclerc Monaco curse as he'd have at least had a chance to make up a place from a standing start.

[kiroquai]

Jos V has apparently had a moan that Red Bull's strategy favoured Checo in Monaco.

 

Am guessing he wasn't watching what happened in Spain, then.

 

 

 

 

[Count Buffalos]

2 hours ago, jonathanhoey said:

 

In the immortal words of Daniel Ricciardo: "Put a fucking wall there, then they won't do it." 

 

I'm not necessarily saying the pit exit line should be a physical wall. But conceptually it should be treated like one, and plainly isn't. 

Would that be the same for the white lines demarcating the course? I presume that no one is suggesting that a driver isn’t permitted to put any part of their wheel over those. As usual, it’s a lack of clarity in the rules.

[milko]

Cricket - foot/bat on the line isn't enough, you have to be past it

Football/Tennis - the whole ball has to be over the line to count

Rugby union - the ball can be in the air over the line but if the player's feet are not over the line then it's not out

Rugby league - same but if the player's feet touch the line it's out

 

I guess car wheels can also be whatever the rule-makers want as long as they're consistent.

 

[wev]

42 minutes ago, kiroquai said:

Jos V has apparently had a moan that Red Bull's strategy favoured Checo in Monaco.

 

Am guessing he wasn't watching what happened in Spain, then.

 

 

 

 

Spain was fine, it favoured his son/Red Bulls golden child

[Blue]

He has a point. Even with no team orders, Checo has no chance of fighting for the championship, so they may well have made a mistake in not promoting Max ahead of him in Monaco. Could prove costly at the end of the season. As Ted so eloquently put it after Sergio's complaints at Spain, "It seems Checo is the last person on God's green Earth to discover that he is the No.2 driver at Red bull."

[ryodi]

Checo has signed a new two year deal with Red Bull keeping him there until the end of 2024. If he’s ahead of Max without anyone behind him like Sainz was at Monaco I expect him to be moving over a few more times this season.

[Blue]

He will indeed, although it's unlikely he'll find himself ahead of Max often anyway.

[spatular]

about crossing the white lines, i thought the point of the pit lane line rule is (you'd assume) to avoid collisions with cars that could be on the other side of the line, so it would be important not to cross it at all. unlike the track limits rule which is to stop people taking advantage to gain lap time, and is done based on the whole car not being past the line, not just one tire. i think the FIA just messed that one up and are sticking to their guns.

[Sidewaysbob]

You sound surprised ?

[spatular]

good point.

[milko]

Forgot another sport with very important line-crossing rules. Touching the lane is a foul in this one.

[kiroquai]

 

[Sidewaysbob]

He must just bring a whole shed load of cash to Williams, its the only answer.

[jonathanhoey]

56 minutes ago, Sidewaysbob said:

He must just bring a whole shed load of cash to Williams, its the only answer.

 

Someone funnier than me once phrased it as "Williams has two sponsors and Latifi is both of them."

 

(Sofina and Lavazza - one of which is owned by Père Latifi and the other is Nicholas' personal sponsor). 

 

Of course they have a few others but it looks like those are the two that bring the big dollars. 

[layten]

www.hassainzcrashedyet.com

 

[fragglerock]

F1 Executive Director Peter Bayer gets the boot

 

https://www.fia.com/news/fia-announces-departure-peter-bayer-and-interim-appointment-shaila-ann-rao

 

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-confirm-departure-of-long-term-top-official/

 

 

[JohnC]

Who?

[Corranga]

On 31/05/2022 at 08:42, Blue said:

I too missed the race live. Was it explained why the last restart was a rolling rather than a standing start? I thought it had been ruled that a standing restart was to be the norm now and the track was basically dry by that point. It would have made for a more exciting restart.

 

It was discussed in the commentary during the race - I watched the live race, just recorded, rather than highlights.

They were talking about how there was a dry line, but how it'd be a clear and obvious disadvantage to those on the wet line.

I'm pretty sure Crofty said something about having asked in the past, following *insert the last rolling start we had here*

Basically, what it came down to, was if they thought there was additional danger of a standing start, they'd mandate a rolling one.

 

I think Monaco is certainly one of those situations.  Having cars on slicks and half of the grid starting on wet road is recipe for disaster.

[fragglerock]

27 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Who?

He did the investigation into last years fiascos and designed the 2 race director stuff we have now.

[Sidewaysbob]

Hmm this can't be a coincidence can it 

 

Quote

Shaila-Ann Rao previously held the position of FIA Legal Director from mid-2016 to end 2018, before spending the past three and a half years with Mercedes Grand Prix Limited as consecutively General Counsel and then Special Advisor to their CEO & Team Principal Toto Wolff.

 

I mean, that has to be fishy

[RFT]

Wait till you hear who the last president used to work for...

[GwiDan]

Albon apparently went through 18 blue flags without letting Leclerc through. How on Earth was that not penalised harshly?

[layten]

A brave call on the McLaren lineup.

 

[Blue]

If I close my eyes, I can see Zak tearing Ric's 2023 contract up in front of his face. If he lasts until the end of this season though, there has to be a good chance of some other team taking him on.

[mexos]

If it’s not Gas in the Mclaren I’ll be amazed.

[Blue]

3 minutes ago, mexos said:

If it’s not Gas in the Mclaren I’ll be amazed.

 

I suspect you'll be amazed.

Colton Herta is the fast track to big U.S sponsorship money and Zak can't stop talking about him.

[mexos]

1 minute ago, Blue said:

 

I suspect you'll be amazed.

Colton Herta is the fast track to big U.S sponsorship money and Zak can't stop talking about him.

Mclaren and American rookies… two don’t mix well.