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Perez, Stroll, Schumacher, Russell, Ricciardo and Ocon are under investigation for communicating during the formation lap. KMag and Grosjean got a 10 second penalty for doing it in Hungary in 2020 but with so many drivers doing it I expect the stewards to bottle giving them a penalty.

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30 minutes ago, Blue said:

You must have missed Checo going from 13th to 5th, Charles and Carlos swapping places a couple of times and some other overtakes and battles. 

 

Checo did that on the start in a car that had over a sec a lap advantage and drivers jumping out of the way…. it wasn’t even shown on the main feed as nothing happened for the passes! 

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1 hour ago, mexos said:


That is Benson level analysis.

 

OK it's Obvious/10 but there's a decent observation in there about Mercedes' chances tomorrow. The thing just doesn't go in a straight line, does it? We saw it last week at Silverstone when Hamilton kept diving down the inside of the Ferraris, he would get ahead and then they would simply drive back past him on corner exit/down the next straight. 

 

And there was a bit of that with Hamilton vs MSC again today. The Ferrari powertrain is evidently just a rocket. 

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1 hour ago, GwiDan said:

What if they forced them to start the Grand Prix on the tyres they finished the sprint with? You’d have a bit of a compromise between wanting to score the points in the sprint, and the optimal strategy in the GP, possibly with people not scoring points putting during the sprint to start the Grand Prix on better tyres. 

 

I like the idea, but I think they really want to try and pretend it isn't just stint 1 of a 4-stint Grand Prix with a red flag. I suspect you'd get everyone taking the GP start and then diving for the pits at the end of lap 1, which would make the organisers look a bit silly. 

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19 minutes ago, jonathanhoey said:

 

OK it's Obvious/10 but there's a decent observation in there about Mercedes' chances tomorrow. The thing just doesn't go in a straight line, does it? We saw it last week at Silverstone when Hamilton kept diving down the inside of the Ferraris, he would get ahead and then they would simply drive back past him on corner exit/down the next straight. 

 

And there was a bit of that with Hamilton vs MSC again today. The Ferrari powertrain is evidently just a rocket. 

 

Totto said that George didnt have the right wing on but a ‘barn door’ so was slow, Lewis was in a DRS train with cars in low drag and Ferrari engine - their car isnt slow the format and circuit prevent overtaking when you hit train.

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12 hours ago, jonathanhoey said:

 

OK it's Obvious/10 but there's a decent observation in there about Mercedes' chances tomorrow. The thing just doesn't go in a straight line, does it? We saw it last week at Silverstone when Hamilton kept diving down the inside of the Ferraris, he would get ahead and then they would simply drive back past him on corner exit/down the next straight. 

 

And there was a bit of that with Hamilton vs MSC again today. The Ferrari powertrain is evidently just a rocket. 


Exactly that. When Lewis went up the inside of both the Ferrari and Red Bull at Club, he exited the corner onto the pit straight with more speed than either of them, yet by turn 1 Perez was alongside him again

 

 Maybe they’re running a lot of wing to make up for lack of ground effect?

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10 minutes ago, morcs said:

Maybe they’re running a lot of wing to make up for lack of ground effect?

They're running a lot of rear wing because they both crashed out in quali and the only spare wings they had were higher downforce ones. They won't have the correct ones for the race either. 

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Formula 1 are investigating racist and sexist behaviour by fans aimed at other spectators, alot of the comments of people who are there are saying it's predominantly coming from the Max stand 

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34 minutes ago, wev said:

Formula 1 are investigating racist and sexist behaviour by fans aimed at other spectators, alot of the comments of people who are there are saying it's predominantly coming from the Max stand 

 

That's really surprising 😐

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2 hours ago, wev said:

Formula 1 are investigating racist and sexist behaviour by fans aimed at other spectators, alot of the comments of people who are there are saying it's predominantly coming from the Max stand 

 

Just their culture tho init…

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The level of extreme partisanship present in today's F1 is sickening. It's for every true F1 fan to do their bit to discourage it rather than fan the flames and to call out those who help to perpetuate it.

No doubt it was Max supporters who cheered Lewis' crash in qualifying. No doubt it was Lewis fans booing Max at Silverstone. No doubt it was Lewis fans cheering Max' crash at Silverstone last year and no doubt it is Max fans making racist and sexist comments in Austria this year. The drivers themselves are not responsible for this.

This is hate, and every example of it contributes to an escalation of hate. People in this very thread who will be quick to decry cheering at Lewis's crash are more than happy to LOL it up when max has a mishap and examples of hate are depressingly common here. You're part of the problem. Similarly, you don't have to look hard to find extreme viewpoints, behaviour and hate speech directed at Lewis in the comments sections of F1 articles and videos or at the track. These people are scumbags who have allowed their support of a driver or team or country to go well beyond healthy levels. I'm certain the drivers themselves just want to turn up and drive cars. 

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3 minutes ago, Blue said:

This is hate, and every example of it contributes to an escalation of hate. People in this very thread who will be quick to decry cheering at Lewis's crash are more than happy to LOL it up when max has a mishap and examples of hate are depressingly common here

 

There's a big difference between laughing because Max picked up some damage that caused her car to go a little slower and cheering as Hamilton's car is buried in the wall. 

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2 minutes ago, ryodi said:

 

There's a big difference between laughing because Max picked up some damage that caused her car to go a little slower and cheering as Hamilton's car is buried in the wall. 

Interesting examples you've chosen there. I take it you've forgotten the comments here within seconds of Max hitting the wall at Silverstone last year, or the cheers of the crowd. Don't make excuses for such people on any side.

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17 minutes ago, Blue said:

Interesting examples you've chosen there. I take it you've forgotten the comments here within seconds of Max hitting the wall at Silverstone last year, or the cheers of the crowd. Don't make excuses for such people on any side.

 

You only mention one examples with Max I notice, you can hear the crowd oohing and cheering at Monza as well when Max parked his car on Hamiltons head.  F1 is a sport of rivalries, they might be more apparent now due to social media and Drive to Survive but the crowd actions are nothing new. They cheered when Schumacher crashed in 1999 before they found out he broke his leg. Cheering a crash is always wrong but F1 and its fans acting like they are above booing particular teams and drivers is ridiculous.  It's always happened and always will happen. You'd think this had just started in 2021 the way people are acting. 
 

I’m surprised Herta is the one getting the test when he’s hasn’t won an IndyCar title and hasn’t had a great season so far.

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15 minutes ago, Graham S said:

I think hoping some sports star loses and cheering when they do is a world apart from racist and homophobic abuse and it’s not right to conflate them.

 

Agreed. I also don't think it's right to conflate cheering when a sports star loses with cheering when they hit the wall at 180mph or hate speech directed at anyone. 

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