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17 minutes ago, Sidewaysbob said:

And he's going to have to do a lot of fighting to get anywhere near the fight in an Aston

Maybe he fell for the same empty promises they made Seb. Although a non-cynic might say they do have real aspirations. They have been spending a lot of money.

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35 minutes ago, Blue said:

Maybe he fell for the same empty promises they made Seb. Although a non-cynic might say they do have real aspirations. They have been spending a lot of money.

Problem is though, when was the last time a team that wasn't the Favoured "works" team of an engine supplier won a championship?

 

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Constructors: Brawn in 2009. Ok slightly more recently than I thought. But before that it was Williams in 1981. For Drivers, 2009 again and I think you can make a case for Schumi in 1995.

 

To get up to that top step, realistally A-M need one of the engine manufacturers to decide not to also have a works team. 

 

Red Bull are going to be 50% bought by Porsche / VW group,  Renault have Enstone and Ferrari are Ferrari. Merc have Brackley and seem happy (and have had an unbroken status as a factory engine supplier for nearly 30 years now)

 

A-M aren't going to build their own F1 Engines. The only way I could see them getting to the top-step is Mercedes selling Brackley and appointing A-M as works-supported team. Which seems unlikely.

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5 minutes ago, RFT said:

Problem is though, when was the last time a team that wasn't the Favoured "works" team of an engine supplier won a championship

 

Ha, no, I don't imagine they have hopes of winning any titles in the short to medium term, but Alpine are fighting for 4th in the constructors while AM are flopping about in 9th.

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46 minutes ago, mexos said:

 

As AM nail 23 and he romps to a third title. No? 


They’re more likely to withdraw from F1 in December this year now that Alonso’s done an Alonso. 

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Maybe a move to Aston is now seen as the glide path out of F1. Since the likes of Minardi and Campos have gone, the old pros have nowhere to slum it for a few years filling up the grid and the bank balance. A couple of seasons listening to Lance whine about how its all so unfair and he's not really rubbish, fleece Daddy of a good few Million euros. Mentor a promising but ultimately shit son of someone famous and then retire to a life of making up outrageous quotes for click bait sites. 

 

And try to win the Indy 500 again.

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Aren't Aston about to outspend/ out-facility Renault Apline so it does make sense to some degree, they also have a tight bond with Mercedes as an engine partner within and outside F1 so its not a huge leap to think AM could do a Mercedes and propel themselves up the ranks…

 

Until they took on the cursed one, Ocon for champion next year :o 

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Aston have never looked like a team that can innovate themselves to the top of the pile. They are a middle order team at best, with maybe flash podium if the front runners all hit trouble. A team that buys its engines, can never design their car from the ground up, they will always have to compromise on their design and essentially follow what Mercedes are doing. 

And Mercedes are not going to tell them what their design philosophy is because they don't want to be beaten. So you end up with an engine that'd designed to be slim and have no sidepod cooling on a rock solid floor, in a car with Redbulls sidepods. 

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What’s interesting is apparently Szafnauer said they’re fighting with McLaren to put Piastri in their car. That seems to indirectly confirm for me that Ricciardo is being sacked. 

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Absolutely nothing from the Pisatri side confirming this.. I love a good F1 conspiracy theory :lol:

 

Imagine if he wakes up like U WOT M8? and just announces he's signed somewhere else (like McLaren)

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How many drivers has Zak Brown contracted for 2023? Danny Ric is about to go back to Alpine with a big payoff from McLaren for the last year of his contract.

 

At the same time Piastri tweeted

 

 

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