Formula One - 2022 - Rllmuk League is live

[ryodi]

I missed the cool down room after the race and didn’t see Lewis telling Charles what happened to Carilos

 

 

[kiroquai]

Man  the guy’s just totally shattered. That glorious Monaco win a few years back seems like an age ago.

 

 

 

[layten]

Celebrities should stay the fuck away from the Grid if they don't want anyone talking to them.

Brundle with a brutal murder of FOM lickspittle. 

[bear]

 

 

 

Confirming the Sauber rumour maybe? 

 

[layten]

 

[NexivRed]

That’s amazing to watch. Utterly nail biting. 

[ryodi]

 

Confirmed. 2026 is such a long time away I won’t believe it’s actually happening until I see an Audi branded Sauber in pre season testing. 

[Sidewaysbob]

I'd rather see them back in the WEC but whatever. They'll have enough money accountants to get the front in a year or two of entry.

[morcs]

[mexos]

7 hours ago, Sidewaysbob said:

They'll have enough money accountants to get the front in a year or two of entry.

Whenever that actually is. 

[marsh]

17 hours ago, mexos said:

Whenever that actually is. 

 

[mexos]

Tomorrow then.

 

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-aston-martin-agree-f1-cost-cap-breach-deals-with-fia/10391176/

 

If RB have agreed it it that says to be it’s going to be pretty lightweight. 
 

I’ll guess at something pathetic like a £1m fine and a 3% wind tunnel or CFD time reduction.

[wev]

The punishment will be Adrian Newey has to design Mohammed bin Sulayem's new yacht

[layten]

So now Red Bull have admitted they were cheating. Is Horner going to publicly apologise to Toto for threating to sue him?

[ryodi]

1 hour ago, mexos said:

Tomorrow then.

 

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-aston-martin-agree-f1-cost-cap-breach-deals-with-fia/10391176/

 

If RB have agreed it it that says to be it’s going to be pretty lightweight. 
 

I’ll guess at something pathetic like a £1m fine and a 3% wind tunnel or CFD time reduction.

That would be my guess as well. Such a small reduction in win tunnel time is meaningless when they’re so far ahead. The FIA might ban them from a couple of free practice sessions next season as well just to make it look like a serious punishment.

[Pug]

I'm hoping to be surprised and the given a retroactive points deduction. Unlikely.

 

It really needs to be a deterrent though, no good having teams weighing up whether it's worth them going over the cap. The punishment needs to be severe enough to be crippling.

 

Braun will look a fool if it's a light punishment that doesn't have 'bite'.

[Shimmyhill]

Hopefully it will be really weak and bring on a Truss style backlash and collapse - a few U turns later and an actual penalty will be imposed.

 

The worst case (and most likely) scenario is a penalty that doesn’t really cost Redbull anything but looks good in the press - 100 point deduction and 100m fine that doesn’t come out of cost cap, utterly meaningless but looks harsh.

[SeanR]

On 24/10/2022 at 22:21, layten said:

Celebrities should stay the fuck away from the Grid if they don't want anyone talking to them.

Brundle with a brutal murder of FOM lickspittle. 

 

[ryodi]

 

Some good news before Red Bull get a slap on the wrist. 

[Blue]

Lewis Hamilton has revealed he plans to sign a new "multi-year" contract with Mercedes that will see the seven-time world champion race into his forties.

The 37-year-old said earlier in his career that he did not envisage racing to such an age, but after losing out to Red Bull's Max Verstappen on two successive drivers' titles, insists Mercedes "have a championship that we need to get back".

 

Let's hope it doesn't end in a vettel-style slide in performance.

[mexos]

1 hour ago, Blue said:

Let's hope it doesn't end in a vettel-style slide in performance.

Indeed. I do think from what he’s said in the past that when he feels it, he’ll call time. Harder obvs if that comes before an 8th mind.

[davidcotton]

I’d imagine there are clauses with regard to the car. Can’t imagine the next one will be as bad. 

[mexos]

14 minutes ago, davidcotton said:

I’d imagine there are clauses with regard to the car. Can’t imagine the next one will be as bad. 

[Sidewaysbob]

It's taken him sixth months, but the Lewis of old is back. 

[Shimmyhill]

Just now, Sidewaysbob said:

It's taken him sixth months, but the Lewis of old is back. 

 

Did he ever go away? I think he will have know the second the team knew the car wasnt going to be fixed this season so he took on all the testing / new parts etc that affected his practice sessions / quali and even race results - of late he has comfortably out performed George from the outside looking at quali / race results etc but not sure thats down to Lewis being ‘back’ or just circumstances of earlier results being down to different approach to improve the car for the long term.

[mexos]

Speaking of things that are never going away:

 

 

Everyone assuming (correctly) that RB are going to get off pretty much scot free is just dragging it all up again. 

 

 

17.30 is apparently when we'll see what they've cooked up.

 

[davidcotton]

“Red Bull have been hit with a $7m (£6.07m) fine and a 10% reduction in permitted aerodynamic research for breaking Formula 1's budget cap.

Governing body the FIA said that Red Bull had overspent by £1.86m in 2021.”

[Blue]

Apparently the FIA found that RB had not taken up a tax subsidy that they were allowed which would have cut 1.4M off the overspend, making it a 0.37% overspend, which has figured into their consideration of the penalty.

The FIA statement reads "There is no accusation or evidence that RB racing has sought at any time to act in bad faith, dishonestly or in a fraudulent manner, nor has it willfully concealed any information from the cost cap administration."

[ryodi]

So their original submission was $5m under, the FIA checked and found them $1.8m over and even taking into account their tax rebate they’d still be $400k over the cost cap. I’m struggling to believe Red Bull acted in good faith or that they left $5m unspent after all their complaining about Silverstone and Hungary. The $7m is meaningless because it doesn’t apply to the cost cap and isn’t going to harm them financially in anyway and even the 10% reduction only takes them from 70% to 63% because they are constructors champions. 

[layten]

Not a bad result for being a bunch of cheats.