Formula One - 2022 - Rllmuk League is live

[rafaqat]

17 minutes ago, Blue said:

 

F1 is a vehicle for selling energy drinks, for RB. Sorry to break it to you so bluntly.

 

you seem quite upset.  

[mexos]

I’ve always liked Johnny but… I find myself automatically turning the volume down when he appears on screen. Time to go son.

[Blue]

5 minutes ago, rafaqat said:

you seem quite upset.  

Why on earth would I be upset? 

[rafaqat]

2 minutes ago, Blue said:

Why on earth would I be upset? 

How the hell should I know?  You just come across as upset.  It’s fine. Just my faulty reading I guess! 

[Blue]

1 minute ago, rafaqat said:

Just my faulty reading I guess! 

Yeah, definitely. No worries.

[ryodi]

33 minutes ago, mexos said:

He’s really doing everything he can to keep that seat.

 

Helmut Marko has said Red Bull don't don't want to lose Gasly which is probably to keep Perez on his toes because there is no chance Gasly will ever return to the main team. Unless he falls off a cliff there's no way Perez is losing that seat and from the season so far it's Sainz who should be worried when it comes to drives at the top three teams. 

50 minutes ago, mexos said:

I’m very impressed with Merc being able to run that fast in the race.

 

Apparently Lewis was running 1.5kg of sensors all over the car this weekend to try and work out what is going on. 
 

No idea what will come but that was some decent damage limitation.

 

 

 

I think Red Bull's tyre issues made it look closer than it was. Max was still well up the road and Perez easily overtook both Mercedes cars.

[Blue]

29 minutes ago, mexos said:

Fucking hell Ted 

I hope he's already had covid.

[rafaqat]

2 minutes ago, ryodi said:

 

 

 

I think Red Bull's tyre issues made it look closer than it was. Max was still well up the road and Perez easily overtook both Mercedes cars.

yeah another lucky day for the Mercs.  They’d have been 5th and sixth if not for DNF’s.  Think the results are very flattering for them at the moment. 

[jonathanhoey]

2 hours ago, mexos said:

Fucking hell Ted 

 

2 hours ago, Blue said:

I hope he's already had covid.

 

What happened? As usual I had to go and walk the dog after the race finished so I didn't get to see much of the post-race stuff. 

[grounded_dreams]

5 minutes ago, jonathanhoey said:

 

 

What happened? As usual I had to go and walk the dog after the race finished so I didn't get to see much of the post-race stuff. 

 

I assume them are referring to this:

 

 

[kiroquai]

Superb drive by Albon, I thought. Peddling that Williams quick enough on race-old hards so he could get out of the pits in 10th was great.

[rafaqat]

So. With Ferarri also seen to be porpoising it seems to still be good enough to set pole laps.   Looks like Red Bull have it handled.

Merc still has plenty of other deficits I think.  Could this be like when Mclaren explained away their poor performance on the engine being poo and then the following season it was discovered that actualy the aero was shit too and being covered by the engine problems. 

 

 

 

[wev]

 

 

Pundits on both channels talking like we're half way through the season and not at the very start still, talking about rivalries for the ages, using phrases like "all year long" and that kind of thing.

 

What year was it that Newey designed Raikkonens McLaren that was ridiculously fast but also really unreliable? Was it the MP4-20? Is this his Red Bull equivalent? 

 

Ended up watching on Channel 4, I set my alarm to watch on Sky but when push came to shove I couldn't be arsed getting out of bed. DC sounds utterly deflated when they discuss Red Bull and reliability

[wev]

Oh and I'm glad they've clamped down on Max's harrying at restarts, whilst it made things exciting, it always felt like he was stepping over the mark a bit too much and always made me nervous there'd be a big crash like Mugello.

[SeanR]

Very proud dad.

 

the boy slept on the sofa,with a 0555 alarm, to get up for the race. 

 

i slept through… and watched the rerun later this morning.

 

Hes not very talkative about it.

 

 

and he’s got his redbull shirt on under that max hoodie.

[GwiDan]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wolff-says-masi-had-become-a-liability-for-f1/9805552/
 

This… isn’t a good look for Toto. The guy doesn’t have a platform to respond

[jonathanhoey]

19 hours ago, wev said:

Oh and I'm glad they've clamped down on Max's harrying at restarts, whilst it made things exciting, it always felt like he was stepping over the mark a bit too much and always made me nervous there'd be a big crash like Mugello.

 

I'm glad we have competent race directors this year who know the rules and are willing to remind the teams and drivers of them. 

 

I don't like Max's style for a lot of reasons but it's not just about him.

 

For what it's worth, for example, I'm completely in favour of drivers being instructed to remove jewellery and piercings before each race. That's basic safety stuff in any physical pursuit with any risk - for example I had to take out my piercings to get harnessed up to go climbing while I was on holiday, and that was all on rigging so safe they were letting children do it. 

 

There are people trying to portray it as an "anti-Lewis rule" which is obviously absurd. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, GwiDan said:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wolff-says-masi-had-become-a-liability-for-f1/9805552/
 

This… isn’t a good look for Toto. The guy doesn’t have a platform to respond

 

I see your point but don't agree. Masi could give interviews if he wanted. Motorsport.com, AMuS, BBC, Sky - any of them would certainly feature him if he wanted to speak. 

 

I feel a little sorry for Masi to the extent that I don't think he did anything maliciously, nor that he was knowingly corrupt. The job was too big for him, the pressure too great, and he didn't handle it especially well.

 

Jonathan Wheatley getting inside his head will always be the biggest thing because it ultimately swung the WDC, but there were plenty of instances all season long of race control simply losing control of the races. Often in RBR's favour but absolutely not always. 

[wev]

I think the focus on Hamilton and his jewelry is probably more down to the media wanting to get hits, they know certain people will get in a tizz over anything that could be linked to Hamilton being perceived as thinking he deserves special treatment. Its not a new rule, I think I read its from 2005? Has Hamilton even commented on it?

[Picasso Of Pain]

Not sure a team boss and the race director having lunch in the week of a race is a good look for the sport 

[Blue]

48 minutes ago, jonathanhoey said:

Masi could give interviews if he wanted. Motorsport.com, AMuS, BBC, Sky - any of them would certainly feature him if he wanted to speak. 

That might not be true. I suspect that a condition of remaining employed within the FIA may have been not discussing the situation.

Whilst it's true that Masi doesn't have a platform to respond and that may be somewhat unfair, I wouldn't necessarily criticise Toto giving his thoughts on the matter when asked.

[jonathanhoey]

8 minutes ago, Blue said:

That might not be true. I suspect that a condition of remaining employed within the FIA may have been not discussing the situation.

 

 

Fair enough, I didn't think of that. 

[jonathanhoey]

30 minutes ago, wev said:

 Its not a new rule, I think I read its from 2005? Has Hamilton even commented on it?

 

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24181/12587990/lewis-hamilton-defying-formula-1s-jewellery-ban-as-he-refuses-to-get-earrings-chopped-off

 

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Questioned after he finished fourth in Melbourne, Hamilton said: "I don't have any plans on removing them.  I feel they are personal things. You should be able to be who you are. There's stuff that I can't move.  I literally can't take these out [pointing to piercings on his right ear]. They're literally welded on so I'd have to get them chopped off or something. So they'll be staying."

 

[...]

 

Hamilton could theoretically be fined or docked points if he breaks the sporting code. However, Sky Sports understands there will be a "grace period" for drivers, with the FIA waiting to see if Hamilton's stance will change over the coming races before determining whether action is required.

 

[Blue]

I can't really see how earings/nose piercings are a safety hazard when you're wearing a helmet. It's not like they can become snagged on anything and if the helmet is breached, there would be bigger problems to deal with. The issue of wearing the fire-proof underwear, which it seems someone might not be adhering to, is a different matter.

[jonathanhoey]

Perhaps not earrings. It's not like any of them wear big Pat Butcher hoops. 

 

I can imagine other facial piercings potentially getting in the way if a driver were, say, severely injured and needing to be intubated at trackside. 

 

Necklaces/chains could get snagged on things or impede removal of the driver's uniform in an emergency. 

 

And finger rings can cause degloving of the finger, which is not something you want to Google. 

 

All of these risks are probably one in a million - but I can certainly see a case for all-or-nothing enforcement rather than selective interpretation of the rules. It isn't a problem until it is. 

 

 

[Corranga]

2 hours ago, jonathanhoey said:

 

Questioned after he finished fourth in Melbourne, Hamilton said: "I don't have any plans on removing them.  I feel they are personal things. You should be able to be who you are. There's stuff that I can't move.  I literally can't take these out [pointing to piercings on his right ear]. They're literally welded on so I'd have to get them chopped off or something. So they'll be staying."

 

[...]

 

Hamilton could theoretically be fined or docked points if he breaks the sporting code. However, Sky Sports understands there will be a "grace period" for drivers, with the FIA waiting to see if Hamilton's stance will change over the coming races before determining whether action is required.

 

I was going to suggest that it could be due to the potential use of a defibrillator and the chance that it could burn (probably more likely chains around the neck than earrings of course) but as they are "literally welded on" he'll already have burns there.

 

The "you should be able to be who you are" argument is utter bollocks too.  You can be who ever you like until it's dangerous, or out ruled. 

If you're not willing to abide by the rules, you should be reprimanded and banned.  Of course as always seems to be the case, the issue here isn't so much with Hamilton, as it is with the FIA being inconsistent and not upholding their own rules.  Lewis didn't rush out and get all his jewellery / piercings overnight!

 

 

[SeanR]

2 hours ago, Blue said:

I can't really see how earings/nose piercings are a safety hazard when you're wearing a helmet. It's not like they can become snagged on anything and if the helmet is breached, there would be bigger problems to deal with. The issue of wearing the fire-proof underwear, which it seems someone might not be adhering to, is a different matter.

someone has a cocking…

[Blue]

1 hour ago, Corranga said:

but as they are "literally welded on" he'll already have burns there.

[Sidewaysbob]

Do you really think any driver is wearing a chain or any chunky jewellery in a race! All the teams are struggling to get the cars down to the minimum weights, no one has anything heavy on. A nose stud and some earrings are going to be the limit here, maybe a St Christopher. 

 

As Ted said in the post race notebook. There's something else going on here, and it's not a move against Lewis, but he is the most high profile wearer of jewellery. 

[Shimmyhill]

6 hours ago, Corranga said:

 

I was going to suggest that it could be due to the potential use of a defibrillator and the chance that it could burn (probably more likely chains around the neck than earrings of course) but as they are "literally welded on" he'll already have burns there.

 

The "you should be able to be who you are" argument is utter bollocks too.  You can be who ever you like until it's dangerous, or out ruled. 

If you're not willing to abide by the rules, you should be reprimanded and banned.  Of course as always seems to be the case, the issue here isn't so much with Hamilton, as it is with the FIA being inconsistent and not upholding their own rules.  Lewis didn't rush out and get all his jewellery / piercings overnight!

 

 

I imagine Lewis can claim ‘squatter’s rights’ by now as it hasn’t be enforced for getting on for two decades… 

[wev]

7 minutes ago, Sidewaysbob said:

Do you really think any driver is wearing a chain or any chunky jewellery in a race! All the teams are struggling to get the cars down to the minimum weights, no one has anything heavy on. A nose stud and some earrings are going to be the limit here, maybe a St Christopher. 

 

As Ted said in the post race notebook. There's something else going on here, and it's not a move against Lewis, but he is the most high profile wearer of jewellery. 

Apparently a few have been known to still wear watches, bracelets and yes necklaces, Lewis is just the obvious example and the guy the media like to make it look like he thinks he's above everyone else.

 

But this is more about the new Race Director making a point that "rules will be followed".