Inside Man Steven Moffat BBC drama

[Stanley]

I’ve watched all four episodes now and I’d rate it as perhaps the most stupid thing I’ve ever watched. Honestly it was so bad I had to watch it all just to see how on earth he managed an ending. Answer, he didn’t. Not really anyway. 
 

The cast are fine, great even (apart from the actor who plays Ben, who I believe is Moffat’s son), it’s just so, so bad. I mean there are so many things wrong about it I don’t even know where to begin.

 

Anyone else subjected themselves to it? 

[Timmo]

I enjoyed it for the most part, but I basically treated it like a pantomime, a pantomime with themes of child porn and murder. I find David Tennant pretty good value in everything he’s in.

 

It was more entertaining than most of the detective shows the BBC and ITV shit out at a rapid rate (that I nonetheless continue to subject myself to), in any case. 

[Mawdlin]

This suffered from faulty logic, unbelievable scenarios and more plot holes than a rusty sheet of corrugated iron. I really enjoyed it.

 

As mentioned, so much better than the generic police/terrorism dramas the BBC spew out.

 

The daftest bit:

 

Spoiler

The door to the cellar having magical sound proofing properties.

 

[McFly]

The guy in prison solving crimes was pretty interesting and has legs for a series if done right.

 

The other half, with "fucking vicar" and his bullshit situation was so daft. That tutor woman was so annoying I'd have killed her anyway, and the whole peado protection thing was madness. It was like some short story in a People's Friend or Take A Break

[Flanders]

I watched it in patches as wife watched it the whole way too, both of us equally as horrified as you were Stanley. 
 

It’s basically like Moffat hit the tipping point where a creator who always had lots of irritating tics even when he was good just fell off the edge completely.
 

He’d been heading that way for a while - later Sherlock and Dracula were not very good - but this was a total abomination. It’s his equivalent of M. Night Shyamalan’s The Happening. Like you can’t figure out how people saw this script written down and thought it was acceptable to film it.

[multi]

I watched the first one of this bollocks because Stanley Tucci is a wonderful man who'd never pick something shit to act in

 

This was was borderline terrible though but I thought that might just be a case of first episode syndrome, so I tried the second one too.

 

No, utter shit. Stick to cooking and swanning around Italy please Stanley*

 

*Tucci, not you @Stanley

[Stanley]

It was like every single moment of the vicar storyline was designed to have you screaming at the TV, so it succeeded in that sense I suppose. 
 

The very first scene on the train. 
 

Spoiler

Why wouldn’t any one of the passengers just tell that irritating streak of piss harassing the journalist to fuck off? No let’s film him instead that will show him. 

 

But the vicar, supposedly a compassionate, learned man. Surely there must be more to his relationship with the troubled verger he’s giving up his life to protect, to the point he’s prepared to commit murder? But no, nothing. 
 

It wasn’t just his keys or memory stick he threw into the bowl in the hallway, it was his brain along with them. 

[FishyFish]

I watched the first two episodes with my wife and then, about twenty minutes into the third we just decided we were not engaged whatsoever and just watching for the sake of it, so packed it in.

 

Maybe it could have worked as a lighthearted farce / comedy of errors-type thing, but the nature of the subject matter meant it had no chance of that.

[Fierce Poodle]

Moffatt is a terrible, smug, arrogant writer so it doesn’t surprise me to hear this is cat shit.

[Jammy]

I think we’ve watched three, and every 5 minutes the show was punctured by me exclaiming “This is just fucking stupid” for various reasons. The whole vicar storyline is like the most annoying farce - just fucking tell the truth Tennant !

[memories]

Wife and I are 2 episodes in and loving it.

 

Everything everyone is saying is totally true, it's just so utterly ridiculous and nonsensical that it's almost a comedy show.

 

It's terrible 

[KartoffelKopf]

The 2 episodes we watched were abominable. The nonchalance with which Tennant let the woman take the thumb drive was a believability red flag and from there it just went downhill. Tucci should be ashamed of himself. His mate from the prison was supposed to be some serial killer and rapist but had a cuddly stand-up comedian persona.

 

Utter dog shit.

[Stanley]

Yeah the way women are depicted and treated is pretty dodgy throughout. 

[Festoon]

This is astonishingly incompetent. And nepotistic too!

[Uncle Mike]

I quite like that anyone interviewing Moffat always phrases the complaints with his style as him being too clever, when it always seems like the problem is that the plots are too stupid. Not that I've watched this.

[Jammy]

1 hour ago, Festoon said:

This is astonishingly incompetent. And nepotistic too!

In many ways ! I didn’t know the son was his actual son, but obviously he’s used David Tennant before, and Dolly Wells in that Dracula thing on the BBC a few Christmases ago.

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[Stanley]

1 hour ago, Uncle Mike said:

I quite like that anyone interviewing Moffat always phrases the complaints with his style as him being too clever, when it always seems like the problem is that the plots are too stupid. Not that I've watched this.

I watched an interview with him and the whole cast recently, and he just really comes across as someone who believes his own hype, just no self awareness. 
 

He was asked a question about violence towards women, or the responsibility of the writer, or something like that. And honestly his answer was just bizarre, going on about how men are more physically powerful and how that weighs heavy on him. In a show where a women was kept handcuffed in the basement, beaten and bloodied, and in which the men all act superior. So err, yeah 

[Davros sock drawer]

On 09/10/2022 at 14:54, Stanley said:

I’ve watched all four episodes now and I’d rate it as perhaps the most stupid thing I’ve ever watched. Honestly it was so bad I had to watch it all just to see how on earth he managed an ending. Answer, he didn’t. Not really anyway. 
 

The cast are fine, great even (apart from the actor who plays Ben, who I believe is Moffat’s son), it’s just so, so bad. I mean there are so many things wrong about it I don’t even know where to begin.

 

Anyone else subjected themselves to it? 

I nearly started a post on it, but decided it had wasted too much of my time already.

 

It was riddled with faulty logic and  clichés (including the least surprising “oh she’s been hit by a truck” moment ever) but in particular the central premise was all a bit dodgy to me. Moffat seems to be saying “Well obviously the Vicar is conflicted because he doesn’t want to get the verger into trouble with the police, we can all understand that, and as a result all of this unfolds”. But no Steven - nobody would see a USB stick full of child porn and not immediately call the police, because those children could be at risk. So either you think that’s a relatable reason why someone could be conflicted or…what?
 

It was all pretty horrible really. I think it must have been Dolly Wells who kept me engaged, she was good. But really I was just hate watching. I think it’s the most I’ve shouted at the TV in years.

[Stanley]

Hate watching, that’s a brilliant way of describing it. 

[PeteJ]

The decisions Tennant's character makes in the first episode were amongst the most implausible I've seen on television or film. 

 

Couldn't face watching episode 2, the first was terrible. 

[cassidy]

@Stanley there's at least two Star Trek threads full of us watching with hate. 

 

I think in our Eutopian afterlife we get cheese plants. Gronda gronda gronda. 

[Flanders]

13 hours ago, KartoffelKopf said:

The 2 episodes we watched were abominable. The nonchalance with which Tennant let the woman take the thumb drive was a believability red flag and from there it just went downhill. Tucci should be ashamed of himself. His mate from the prison was supposed to be some serial killer and rapist but had a cuddly stand-up comedian persona.

 

Utter dog shit.

I’m glad to see someone else say this - I’m not particularly dramatic about this sort of thing but I just felt it was really off to have that kind of serial killer character portrayed in that kind of jokey way in 2022.

 

I also thought it was massively inappropriate to use child porn as a bizarre macguffin without ever really delving into the notion that child porn is bad. 

[memories]

Finished this last night.

 

Spent half the last episode laughing at it, are we sure this isn't supposed to be a comedy?

 

It's just utter shite.

[PaB]

28 minutes ago, memories said:

Finished this last night.

 

Spent half the last episode laughing at it, are we sure this isn't supposed to be a comedy?

 

It's just utter shite.

Welll it’s clearly a black comedy in places . Certainly the last couple of episodes seemed to veer more and more  towards that

some of the pearl  clutching in here is definitely comedy . 

 

i thought it was alright . Full of holes and the basic premise was of course, nonsense . But it was watchable  . Overall 5/10. 

 

 

[Oaf]

Tucci and his companion made quite a double act, although “the rapist” conundrum was quite poor. The whole vicar part of the series was pure cringe.

 

The biggest plot hole was the wife drove an electric car, yet the garage didn’t have a charging point. I found that to be a massive oversight 😃

[Mawdlin]

If the instigating incident with the flash drive had been handled much better then what followed would have been swallowed more readily. I defy anyone not to watch that scene without shouting out "what the fuck, as if!"

 

I did enjoy Tennant's desperation to find a route out and only digging himself a bigger hole as things escalated. But gee, you definitely had to leave your suspension of disbelief in the cellar.

 

 

[Stanley]

I don’t see how they could have done that though without rewriting the entire story. It seemed to me as though Moffat was uneasy with the whole paedophile story, as he should have been, but it was as though he was scared of going down a darker route with the script. As such it was completely inept writing. 

[iknowgungfu]

Watched two episodes and I can’t believe I wasted my time with this. Dreadful. Gone back to Star Trek BNW

[iknowgungfu]

Well…was pursuaded to watch another. Still shit but the wide lines to fall asleep to it apparently.