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stir fry

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I think edge will give big scores to something which appears a bit novel or impactfully different in noticeable ways. Like they gave Bayonetta 3 a 9, a very uneven game with lots of problems but, crucially, it really is flexing its systems with a completely new combat system (which polarised people, but it was still something very new). My goty fwiw, liked it a ton in spite of those problems

 

Makes me wonder what they gave Nioh 2 actually now that someone brought that game up, another fairly iterative title that improves over the original. Just checked now and it says

 

As the game strays further from this core fantasy, its charms are dulled. Nioh 2 is a rather conservative sequel. [Issue#346, p.96] 7

 

So yeah, they don't really like iterative stuff that much. 

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I'm playing Sonic Frontiers at the moment, and while I'm enjoying it I think I can easily see why it could score a 3. I could also see why it could score a 7. It's such a weird mix of good and bad stuff, and sometimes the bad stuff becomes sort of good when it adds a layer of jank to take into account and master.

 

The only thing I think its unequivocally bad so far is the story, which is not only dull but also weirdly vague. I feel like I could skip all the dialogue and lose nothing from the experience.

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I'm surprised at the down to earth score for GoW Ragnarok. It's the kind of game that ends up on everyone's goty lists on production values and hype alone.

 

I'm enjoying my time with it, it looks amazing and the story is fun, but man is it ever Videogame: The Videogame, moreso even than your average Ubisoft collectathon. Every standardized element from the cinematic third-person action genre Sony does so well, distilled and polished into a single blockbuster experience.

 

If we take 5 as average (which we fucking always should) then it's the most 7 a videogame can be.

 

Also Pentiment 9, this month's edge has really good taste :)

 

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Mogster

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4 minutes ago, Hanzo the Razor said:

 

Because Sonic games are well known for their sprawling narratives?

Obviously not, but that doesn't stop this one being particularly bad. It's not like I was expecting a good story from the game, but what's there is both inane and bizarrely vague.

 

The best "story" I've seen in a Sonic game was probably Sonic 3, which got across a few simple beats without any dialogue and without ever getting in the way.

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3 minutes ago, Popo said:

Sonic got a 3 but Balan Worderworld got a 5?

 

That's exceedingly harsh.

 

Ah but Balan was made by the guy who made Bumblo Scrimblo, a formative experience I played as a kid and look back on fondly, that it is a total turd is secondary.

 

The quality of games is directly equivalent to how much they pander to me, a 90s kid.

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2 hours ago, stir fry said:

I think edge will give big scores to something which appears a bit novel or impactfully different in noticeable ways. Like they gave Bayonetta 3 a 9, a very uneven game with lots of problems but, crucially, it really is flexing its systems with a completely new combat system (which polarised people, but it was still something very new). My goty fwiw, liked it a ton in spite of those problems

 

Makes me wonder what they gave Nioh 2 actually now that someone brought that game up, another fairly iterative title that improves over the original. Just checked now and it says

 

As the game strays further from this core fantasy, its charms are dulled. Nioh 2 is a rather conservative sequel. [Issue#346, p.96] 7

 

So yeah, they don't really like iterative stuff that much. 

 

I think the logic you are following is right but they're definitely not as consistent with it as they should be. Bayonetta 2 getting a 10, for example, when it was similar to the first.

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14 minutes ago, Popo said:

Sonic got a 3 but Balan Worderworld got a 5?

 

That's exceedingly harsh.

I know Edge have their reasons for not putting the reviewers names on reviews (maybe to keep them safe from Kevvy?) but this is one of the times I'd love to know if the reviews were be the same person. 

 

 

Like Balan and Sonic might as well be a pair of 2/10s as I'll probably never play either of them but Balan sounded like it had structural issues which were outright vicious towards the player. 

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stir fry

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7 minutes ago, Timmo said:

 

I think the logic you are following is right but they're definitely not as consistent with it as they should be. Bayonetta 2 getting a 10, for example, when it was similar to the first. 

B2 came out at a time when those types of Japanese action games were in decline a bit tho. DMC got rebooted to be more western around then. DmC's own qualities notwithstanding, it seemed to be a bit of an acknowledgement that these types of games didn't seem to have much of a future at the time. So Bayo 2 could be seen around that time as taking the vacated spot by DMC for a bit in the more hardcore japanese stylish-action game genre

 

Tho imo B2 is the weakest entry out of the three. But I think ratings like that are a bit of positive reinforcement by Edge, in a "more of this sort of thing" kinda way

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10 minutes ago, bear said:

I know Edge have their reasons for not putting the reviewers names on reviews (maybe to keep them safe from Kevvy?) but this is one of the times I'd love to know if the reviews were be the same person. 

 

 

Like Balan and Sonic might as well be a pair of 2/10s as I'll probably never play either of them but Balan sounded like it had structural issues which were outright vicious towards the player. 

 

I'm in the same position, but I played Sonic at EGX for what would in no way constitute an extended play time, but it seemed fine.  Balan, which I haven't played, but I did read reviews of, sounded like it was broken and unfinished.

 

You know whoever did the review quietly chuckled to themselves as they uploaded it to the CMS.  They knew what they were doing. :D

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Edge reviews are irrelevant (along with most other reviews these days) and have been for years. Used to buy a copy every month and still have huge stacks of them stored away somewhere. The scores and a good review from them used to mean something back in the day. Those days are loooooong gone.

 

No idea how a game (Somerville) which is basically just a worse version of Limbo and Inside, and has the worst screen tearing ever, framerate issues, control issues, characters getting stuck in scenery requiring restarts, glitches and bugs, largely derivative gameplay that for chunks of it doesn’t really work, that totally drops off a cliff 2/3rds of the game in, has an abysmal non-story and 100% feels like it’s been released before it’s fully finished etc manages to score 7/10.
 

Yet a game (God of War), that feels like a landmark for incredible production values, story telling and manages to bridge Blockbuster films with video games, in a way that is above anything else ever released, and does what it does incredibly well, with very few real flaws - 7/10.

 

And they haven’t even bothered to review the latest version of one of the best driving games going.........again. 😂 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

I'm surprised at the down to earth score for GoW Ragnarok. It's the kind of game that ends up on everyone's goty lists on production values and hype alone.

 

I'm enjoying my time with it, it looks amazing and the story is fun, but man is it ever Videogame: The Videogame, moreso even than your average Ubisoft collectathon. Every standardized element from the cinematic third-person action genre Sony does so well, distilled and polished into a single blockbuster experience.

 

If we take 5 as average (which we fucking always should) then it's the most 7 a videogame can be.

 

Also Pentiment 9, this month's edge has really good taste :)

 


Not sure either of those scores are remotely surprising. Pentiment has looked like Edge-bait since it was first revealed.

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25 minutes ago, CrichStand said:

Edge reviews are irrelevant

 

The 1200 views and 50+ replies in this thread (including your own) would suggest otherwise.

 

They have gotten people talking since the mag started and it's still the case. 

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stir fry

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imo a bit more diversity in critical response should be welcomed in the industry, I don't understand why it's an expectation that big AAA games like Ragnarök should always be 8s, 9s and 10s. It's not like it's going to hit like that for everyone, certainly for me Ragnarök is a 7 anyway, so the Edge review speaks to me better than a lot of the other ones. Still had a decent time with it

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For the first few years Edge was great. It treated videogames in a grownup way, had really well written content and before the Internet was a really great way of finding out about interesting games early. Probably instrumental in me getting a launch xbox.

 

At some point it seemed to re-invent itself as a very "serious" critic of gaming treating them in a very wine snob way.

 

As time had gone it's become less and less relevant struggling for its place in the world.

 

It seems to randomly use some reviews/scores to do it's best Elon Musk of video games impression.

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