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So you think less limitation in somethings means it just has to make it easier?

Do you not get it?

Checkpoints, you are limited as to where you save.

Quicksave, you aren't limited to where you save. From the loss of that LIMITATION you then have the CHOICE/SELECTION of deciding to make the game easier or harder for yourself.

By your weird defination I couldn't CHOOSE to make it harder to drive home blind-folded because choice is freedom, and freedom is less limitation.

Me having the freedom to drive home blind-folded will make it easier then?

After all...

Choice = less limitation.

Limitation = difficulty.

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The choice is making it harder, not the quicksave itself. Do you understand the difference?

Exactly!

And quicksave gives you that choice. Without quicksave you'd have NO choice but checkpoints.

So again, why is it a bad thing?

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Seriously, don't roll your eyes. Correct me on things I've said.

You said "I never said it was in itself a 'bad' thing." so is quicksave a good thing?

and clear this up while you're at it...

Because it doesn't mean that.

Choice is freedom, freedom is less limitation not more limitation.

I didn't make the definitions up myself, or anything.

So if you have freedom, you can make things easier for yourself, but not harder?

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Seriously, don't roll your eyes. Correct me on things I've said.

I really can't be arsed any more.

You said "I never said it was in itself a 'bad' thing." so is quicksave a good thing?

No, it is neither.

So if you have freedom, you can make things easier for yourself, but not harder?

You can make things harder as a result of choice. Just like by putting oven mitts on or closing your eyes, etc. This is not a result of quicksave, however.

My point was, quicksave in itself, as it stands alone wihtout external forces, is a way of lessening difficulty.

That is all.

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So you agree with me that quicksave isn't a bad thing, good good.

And you agree that "unfair lazy death sections" are in no way the fault of quicksave but the fault of the developers. OK.

And do you agree that choice may well equal freedom and that might well mean less limitation but that does not necessarily mean less difficulty? I hope you agree on that point.

And do you agree that a game doesn't have to be challenging. Let's not forget a lot of cheats remove all challenges from a game but that doesn't mean it is no longer a game...

The only point I'd like to correct you on is this...

"My point was, quicksave in itself, as it stands alone wihtout external forces, is a way of lessening difficulty."

You could see it that way, I'd rather see it as...

"My point was, quicksave in itself, as it stands alone wihtout external forces, is a way of giving the player more choice."

Simple YES/NO answers will do.

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Getting away from quicksaves for a moment, from playing the demo I feel this game is the natural successor to Half-Life. I know there are no islands in Half-Life but something feels similar. Maybe it is just the all round perfectly polished package.

What the hell has that to do with quick saves? :P

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So you're saying the more choice/freedom you get, the less limitations you have, meaning the easier something gets?

So even with more choice/freedom and less limitation you still can't ever make something harder?

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Could of sworn this topic was about Far Cry's review?

Getting away from quicksaves for a moment, from playing the demo I feel this game is the natural successor to Half-Life. I know there are no islands in Half-Life but something feels similar. Maybe it is just the all round perfectly polished package.

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But everyone just quicksaves after every kill on a hard bit. U should manage a run thro an area, iinstead it ends up kill enemy with 88 life, save, lose 2 more hlth on another enemy..save...etc etc finish the area with 50 life. stop start stop start. if u only get pockets of time to play a game then play a little game on sky tv or something dont waste bloody Far Cry.

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Im saying people save before fighting every single enemy and everything ends up stop-start.

Oh and congrats on being another moron on the internet, the world always needs more of those. You could of just said 'what?' at my slightly rambling sentence. No need to be like that. Offensive replies on a forum..whatever next.

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Im saying people save before fighting every single enemy and everything ends up stop-start.

Oh and congrats on being another moron on the internet, the world always needs more of those. You could of just said 'what?' at my slightly rambling sentence. No need to be like that. Offensive replies on a forum..whatever next.

To be fair, your first post didn't make sense.

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Not only did it not really make sense but he's also saying that people who can't sit and play games all day shouldn't actually play games but instead should "play a little game on sky tv or something".

But most of all "dont waste bloody Far Cry".

After all, if you don't play Far Cry for 3 days solid you're wasting it?

And he calls ME offensive?

And at the start of his posts he's just being dumb by saying EVERYONE would just quicksave - stop, start, stop, start. Not REALISING that a quicksave in Far Cry would just be an OPTION to those that CHOOSE to use it WHEN and WHERE they WANT.

And I'll react to people however they deserve to be reacted to :P Ner ner ner.

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