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Burai

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Online gaming will likely never be a success unless broadband connections become as easily available and cheap as electricity.

It's just too much hassle right now. Maybe this'll change in the future, but it's not gonna change any time soon. Ironically whenever "industry analysts" talk about Nintendo's future being bleak, they always bring up online gaming as being one of their potential saviours. But in reality, an Xbox Live/PlayOnline scheme right now would be a pointlessly expensive exercise in the current market and one which would kill Nintendo even faster than any perceived failures they've suffered so far.

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I think Ubisoft has the best way of developing online games at the moment: a high quality singleplayer experience with kick-ass multiplayer components. Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six and Splinter Cell all offer this. Nintendo could reap the benefits of this by offering an online architecture and let the developers do the hard stuff.

Yeah man, god knows how they came up with the "doing everything well" concept. I can imagine the meeting:

Plucky designer bloke: Hey - I've just come up with a fantastic idea: what if we make all the bits of our games really good?

Head honcho: But where will the bad bits go?

PDB: That's just it. There are no bad bits.

HH: But we can't make games that aren't at least partially bad!

PDB: Why not?

HH: Oh... my... god.

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Major Britten

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I'll have to say. must of you are stuck in the british marked.Take a look at what's going on elsewhere, we have lots of broadband.

1Mb download 256kb upload is very cheap in norway.

In Japan we have 100Mb connections at good prices (lower than a 1Mb connection in the UK), I am on a 70Mb connection myself :lol:

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In Japan we have 100Mb connections at good prices (lower than a 1Mb connection in the UK), I am on a 70Mb connection myself :(

why the fuck do you need a 70MB connection? it's insane. or is that like the cheapest option :lol:

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MS have cash reservers in the region of $50b.

The X box is a very major part of MS's plan for home dominance. Maybe not this iteration, but MS WILL (or at least give it a bloody good try) own the device that sits in the living room and acts as a central system for playing game, watching dvd's etc.

There was a leaked email a couple of years back from one of the members on MS's executive bord, going on about all this anti trust malarky, that basically outlined MS's plan for home domination.

X box and Live! are just the start.

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PopeSmokesDope

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As noted above, the wholesale price is £20 (ish), so let's say they're making at least £10 on each pack. That's £8 million.

Now think about all the people who have LIVE, who will now buy Xbox games that have LIVE with them, or be more encouraged because they can play them on LIVE...

It all adds up.

Don't forget about subscription costs, of which, all the cash (bar VAT) goes straight into MS's coffers.

With reagards to the cost of running the service, I would imagine, that a large chunk of that is sorted out by the publishers.

Some of the games rely on peer to peer hosting , with MS just acting as the intermidiary.

The revenue streams for the service (Customers and publishers both pay to use the service) seem pretty impressive.

Once the uptake escalates intot he millions it will be a prwtty nice cash stream for MS.

Incidently, I don't think the losses MS make on each X Box are quite as large as some of you belive. Component prices come down and MS buyers are constantly changing suppliers to get cheaper parts and drive the manufacturing cost as far down as possible.

Still, I also doubt they are anywhere near Nintendos profitability on the hardware side.

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In Japan we have 100Mb connections at good prices (lower than a 1Mb connection in the UK), I am on a 70Mb connection myself :lol:

You appear to have not read the forum rules. If you have a faster connection than me then you are to shut up about it.

Ban request.

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Major Britten

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why the fuck do you need a 70MB connection? it's insane. or is that like the cheapest option 

I dont pay for it at all, it comes free in the guest house I am staying in :(

I want to get work in japan. cheap super broadband and some fiiine looking girls.. w00ha! 

Only one of those things are correct, I have grown to hate most of the women here (in Tokyo at least) because most of them are whores and are very stupid (Japan has a huge STD crisis at the moment because the women fuck too many jap men with no protection, these jap man are usually the ones that go to places like Tailand/phillopenes and get all sorts of nasty stuff from hookers and Japanese women believe all STDs are a western thing and japanese men cant get it :P )

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Major Britten

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But then your watermelons are price at some insanley high price.

You get cheap Uber fast BB, we get cheap water melons.

RESULT!

All the fucking food here is expensive, why do you think you dont see too many fat japanese (not counting Sumo's)? its because the food is too fucking expensive :P

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Incidently, I don't think the losses MS make on each X Box are quite as large as some of you belive. Component prices come down and MS buyers are constantly changing suppliers to get cheaper parts and drive the manufacturing cost as far down as possible.

Wrong. If a manufacturer drives down the cost of parts, it's going to keep the money for itself - not pass that on to MS. All of the key manufacturers signed agreements which set the prices in stone for XBox supply. It's one of the main reasons we won't be seeing backwards compatibility in Xenon - MS tried to go back on a pricing agreement it struck and got given the finger.

It's the main drawback of the off-the-shelf nature of the XBox.

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* Why would a French magazine get the exclusive on a Nintendo of America development?

* Most of the games come from Japan, yes...? So why would they be developed with online capabilities that won't work in Japan? The only way AC2 etc. will be online is if Japan gets its GCs online, not America, surely?

* Official tunnelling software - I don't think so. Nintendo strike me as the sort of company that leave things the way they made them in the first place. If their games weren't designed to be online, I don't think we'll ever see them (officially) online.

* Wireless headset - cinches it as a fake for me. Why wireless? It would push the price right up.

Naah, I reckon it's fake. Be nice if it wasn't, but we'd see it come out of Japan for sure.

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