Graham S Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 I've been on a mission to learn the ways of the shoot-em-up in the last month or two. I find that any one shoot em up isn't enough for the shit player, as later levels become punishingly difficult, so I flit batween the early sections of them all like a mayfly. Most of them have been played on a modded Xbox, so that's not a bad place to try them out if you have the kit. I was enjoying Sexy Parodius last night: it has bags of character. Even more fun was a sequel AllYourBase recommended to me in MAME: gokuparo.zip (Gokujyou paradius). Most fun I've had has been with all the R-Types (1,2, and leo on MAME, 3 on SNES, Delta on PS1 and Final on PS2). The latter features some much easier difficulty settings (and you keep your powerups when you die on them) so could be recommended to a beginner. It looks great, but it's maybe not the best of the series: there are some dull bits in early levels. Haven't played Gradius V yet: a little bit underwhelmed with the others in the series as they get quite tricky quite fast and you lose pwerups on death. I enjoyed the GBA version for a while. As for the vertical shooters I probably enjoyed Ikaruga the most, due to the quality of graphics and sound. It's not representative of the other games in the genre, but if you're not trying to chain you can get through the first couple of levels OK as a beginner. rRootage (modded Xbox or PC) is a good training ground for bullet dodging. The other vertical shooters (from the current Japanese lots of bullets to dodge genre) blend into one for me. They get tricky quickly too, but its nice trying the first part of each of them for a while. Donpachi was a bit easier, so not a bad starting place, although the graphics are ropey. *edit* special mentions for the Raidens and also the very lovely 1942. Apologies to shooter experts, but I though the perspective of an enthusiastic beginner might be helpful to Laine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Ace Posted July 26, 2004 Author Share Posted July 26, 2004 No, what that was was a "joke". Look it up. Okay. It says here in my trusty Oxford English Dictionary that a 'joke' is a 'statement or short story told in order to cause amusement'. Given that I was thoroughly unamused by your 'joke', we can hereby conclude, using ACTUAL SCIENCE that your 'joke' was in fact not a joke, but was in fact 'bollocks'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laine Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Thanks Graham. I really need to mod my Xbox don't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelyman Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Back on topic.... I got back from France yesterday and have till weds off work. To my joy, Gradius V popped through the letterbox today. But I took my PS2 RGB cable to France as my Girlfriend's little brother had his PS2 and I'm an RGB snob... And I left it there So before I could play it I trekked up to game, woolies and HMV before going all the way over to the other side of town to the retail park to Currys for an RGB cable before I could play it Anyway. I've had 3 goes now - no continues. got up to the boss on stage 1 first go, second time up to where the trapdoor shuts after the blobs with eyes on stage 2 and third go to what I assume is the stage 2 boss - it appears suddenly after you have killed the little 'destroy the core' thingy. WOW! This game is amazing. Pure old school, AMAZING graphics and boss design and brilliant twist on the option theme. Maybe Irem should have contracted R-Type Final to Treasure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledge Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I am up to the end of level 6 now and I think the levels just get better and better through the game. Level 6's design is just such a great premise. With the bosses you are never sure when they are going to end. You thinkn you have don well not to lose a life killing and then an even larger more complex one appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirtle Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Laine, play Bangai-o! It's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laine Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Laine, play Bangai-o! It's great! Is it stupidly cute? I keep meaning to buy a copy when it was £2.99 in Game, but didn't. I played Paradious this weekend, I really liked it. I want the even more silly sounding Sexy Paradious though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vemsie Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelyman Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Thanks. This game deserves more pages than DRIV3R! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirtle Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Is it stupidly cute? I keep meaning to buy a copy when it was £2.99 in Game, but didn't.I played Paradious this weekend, I really liked it. I want the even more silly sounding Sexy Paradious though. Stupidly cute, yes. Have you seen JCAFarley's avatar? That's part of the game over screen. It's fucking mental as Manson was. It's really funny and just bizarre and when stuff blows up it turns into fruit. It also has one of the best risk/reward structures I've ever seen. The more bullets and enemies of screen the more power you get on your super move. Inspired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan_Kerr Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Ikaruga or Gradius V or that RType Final? PAL only answers tho'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham S Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I think Ikaruga > R-Type Final. Both were Edge 8's and Gradius is a 9. When is Gradius out on PAL? Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_S_H_24 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Apparently 21st September 2004... ...although thats a tuesday so... Amazon says the 24th, which is more likely i suppose. Anyway hopefully end of September not too far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimahoo Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I dunno. Ikaruga - Gradius, then R-type but TBH, i love the visual assault Gradius gives your Retnas. Ikaruga is a puzzle-shuemp really. Many levels have you changing shade to move through bullet storms, or fast flipping to avoid being shot. Gradius is pure candy. The end of level 2 where the game celebrates the heritage of the series by having motherships from various eras (even one from Salamander) is great. Even the musics remixed. And those Boss explosions are the best effect Treasure has ever done, and certainly the best representation of a large explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 i really can't wait for this game. i remember fondly a few years of my youth spent in the arcades playing through (and learning to do it on one 10p) nemesis, then salamander, then vulcan venture. lovely games the lot. so, this being gradius v, did i miss the fourth instalment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimahoo Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Yes. Gradius III and IV are available on PS2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Ace Posted August 2, 2004 Author Share Posted August 2, 2004 It's far from the fifth, though - it's more like the fifteenth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelyman Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 But Gradius IV is pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyhwuhx Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Even the musics remixed. .::: While some of the boss themes are remixed, I can't recognize anything else. I was especially dissapointed not hearing anything remotely connected to Burning Heat (which because of it's Gradius connection was one of my favourite DDR tracks). I like the 'intermezzo' theme which was also used in the trailer, but sadly there seems to be only one song of that caliber. The rest is a bit meh. Still going to get the game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabreman Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I only need one piece of information: PAL release - 60hz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyhwuhx Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I only need one piece of information:PAL release - 60hz? .::: Very good chance. Konami has been doing pretty well in the 60Hz department ime. If Castlevania LoI can have one, then why the fuck wouldn't Gradius V have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelyman Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I only need one piece of information:PAL release - 60hz? No, you need THIS information: IT'S FUCKING BEST THAN EVERY OTHER GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rllmuk Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 played this last night for a little bit. looks fantastic and plays just as well. i was actually enjoying myself as well playing this, whereas ikaruga seemed like a struggle the first time i played it. bodes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 I've never played a shmup in my life, and I want one. What should I start with, bearing in mind if I die a lot i'll get very angry? I want ESPgaluda or whatever it's called, the box art is lovely. Reccomend me something please. I guess this should be a new topic, but i'm having a lazy day. Thanks! Id' go for UN Squadron. Get the SNES version on EMU. It's brilliant, varied, and not that hard! Or why not the first Gradius? It's still a game par excellance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelyman Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Id' go for UN Squadron. Get the SNES version on EMU. It's brilliant, varied, and not that hard!Or why not the first Gradius? It's still a game par excellance! UN Squadron is SOODINGLY hard especially for someone not used to shmups. R-Type is pretty easy until you get to the annoying dots level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelyman Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Oh yeah - How's everyone doing with Gradious V on one credit then? I'm up to stage 3 and the bit where you get chased by the mini-bosses down the corridors. I tried that bit on stage select this morning and did it quite easily though so I'm expecting to get onto stage 4 tonight, since the spider boss seems a doddle once you get the way the boxes drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 UN Squadron is SOODINGLY hard especially for someone not used to shmups.R-Type is pretty easy until you get to the annoying dots level... I'm sure it can't be. I've always been really crap at Shoot em ups, and I completed it. I don't even really like Shoot em ups but I loved the game. I'm sure it's not that hard - and can't you stick it on "easy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelyman Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Oh yeah - How's everyone doing with Gradious V on one credit then?I'm up to stage 3 and the bit where you get chased by the mini-bosses down the corridors. I tried that bit on stage select this morning and did it quite easily though so I'm expecting to get onto stage 4 tonight, since the spider boss seems a doddle once you get the way the boxes drop. Nice to see this gem is holding the forum's attention like Driv3r I'm still struggling doing stage 2 without dying. Need more practice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rllmuk Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 i'm finding it pretty hard. harder than ikaruga despite my earlier comments. can do 1st stage on one credit but past that it's mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham S Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 i'm finding it pretty hard. harder than ikaruga despite my earlier comments. can do 1st stage on one credit but past that it's mad. Are you playing on the easiest setting? Hard games make me cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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