Amiga Emulator For Dreamcast

[nausea]

.. it is sure great news. the development has just started and it looks great already. they also got a very near perfect Atari ST emulator going..

the cute little white box refuses to die

Amiga emulator UAE4ALL

Other DC emulators

- Amiga500 with 1MB RAM.

- Frameskip 1 close to real speed.

- Menu System: select frameskip, sound, throttle...

- Filemanager (load and reload floppy images).

- Virtual Keyboard.

- Emulate joysticks and mouse.

- Preliminar Sound (not clean and slow a bit).

TO DO:

- Speed up.

- Error handling.

- Add Options Menus.

- Clean sound.

[DarhkFox]

wow, nice news... ill have to try it out when it gets a bit faster.

[darkwave]

Does this have support for four players?

If not, how hard would that sort of functionality be to add?

There wouldn't be any code in UAE for this already to port across, but that would make for a killer feature.

Sound great already though, I'll be giving it a go over the next few days!

[nausea]

it is still very early days and the games run slow and it's buggy.. but hopefully they will continue to work on it. they have done a great job so far, considering there hasn't been a good emulation of SNES yet on the DC. an Amiga is even harder to emulate.

haven't tried the ST emulator yet, but it is supposed to be very very good. these guys are talanted.

the DC homebrew scene is great.

[ianwuk]

It would be great to see SWOS on the Dreamcast as well as all other Amiga classics such as Hired Guns, Flashback, Lemmings, Lotus Trilogy, and such.

[matt0]

Hmm... Didn't realise they had an ST emulator (last DC homebrew stuff I downloaded was NesterDC about three years ago...).

Both emulators sound pretty cool... HEY! Crazy random thought! Would it be possible to add CD32 support? So you could just stick an Amiga CD game in there and play it!? CD32 used your bog-standard CD format didn't it? That would be pretty cool.

Darkwave:

It shouldn't be too hard to emulate 4 players. All the games used a parrallel port adapter, so it shouldn't really be any different to writing code for emulating the joystick ports or keyboard input (I think... not an expert...).

Ianwk:

I remember getting all excited about running the SNES Sensible Soccer on my DC and then seeing how slow the emulator ran... Grr... SWOS on DC would be...

[alan cummings]

Both emulators sound pretty cool... HEY! Crazy random thought! Would it be possible to add CD32 support? So you could just stick an Amiga CD game in there and play it!? CD32 used your bog-standard CD format didn't it? That would be pretty cool.

well it says it emulates an A500 with 1mb slowly ( at the moment) and as a CD32 is basically an a1200 with 2mb, presumably it would be a lot trickier. although i guess it will happen at some point if the project is kept alive.

playing sensi soccer or the chaos engine with my arcade stick would be a novel experience.

[matt0]

well it says it emulates an A500 with 1mb slowly ( at the moment) and as a CD32 is basically an a1200 with 2mb, presumably it would be a lot trickier. although i guess it will happen at some point if the project is kept alive.

playing sensi soccer or the chaos engine with my arcade stick would be a novel experience.

Ah! Fair point, I got a bit carried away there.

Just had another random thought:

Walker, with mouse support mapped to the analogue stick, triggers to fire, movement on the A,B,X,Y buttons .

[nausea]

Both emulators sound pretty cool... HEY! Crazy random thought! Would it be possible to add CD32 support? So you could just stick an Amiga CD game in there and play it!? CD32 used your bog-standard CD format didn't it? That would be pretty cool.

as a very good Neo Geo CD emulator exists and works great with Neo Geo CD's it shouldn't be impossible to do..

Link to the Neo Geo CD emulator

[Couch Corpse]

Nausea my good man, you seem to know your stuff here, and I'm interested. What emu do you rec getting first, based on ease of setting up, speed, etc. Cheers.

Oh, btw, didn't you say the ST emu was good, didn't SWOS come out on the ST.

[Pistol]

Amiga on the DC! Very good news. If I hadn't moved up to the Xbox for emulation, I'd have a play with this myself!

[nausea]

Nausea my good man, you seem to know your stuff here, and I'm interested. What emu do you rec getting first, based on ease of setting up, speed, etc. Cheers.

Oh, btw, didn't you say the ST emu was good, didn't SWOS come out on the ST.

well i'm certainly no expert at all, i just like the homebrew/emulation scene on the DC it's fun tryin out some of the great stuff.

both NesterDC and SMEG works perfect in my opinion (full speed, full compability) and are easy to set up, especially if you use a tool like DC Factory. It's a tool which you use to put all the roms and the emu on one disc. NesterDC supports Game Genie too.

check out DC Emulation , it's one of the best sites for DC emulation, there are lots and lots of great stuff there and a messageboard. the NeoGeoCD emulator looks very promising, but sadly some of the other stuff has been abandoned.

[df0notfound]

as a very good Neo Geo CD emulator exists and works great with Neo Geo CD's it shouldn't be impossible to do..

Link to the Neo Geo CD emulator

Well yeah a totally different system with totally different internals/requirements and quirks runs okish THEN IT MUST BE POSSIBLE!!!!

knowing the dc community this will be given up on in a week an be left a half arsed waste of time not worth the cd its printed on. That community is so worthless they can never stick anything through till its a half decent program.

[Couch Corpse]

Thanks for that my man. I've been having a look, didn't see the ST emu there. Gonna join the forum to see how all this works, not that I'm new to emu but it would be nice to bring the DC around the mates houses for some retro goodness and easier then bringing my PC.

[matt0]

Well yeah a totally different system with totally different internals/requirements and quirks runs okish THEN IT MUST BE POSSIBLE!!!!

knowing the dc community this will be given up on in a week an be left a half arsed waste of time not worth the cd its printed on. That community is so worthless they can never stick anything through till its a half decent program.

When was the last time you made a homebrew emulator for a non-open source video game console?

As someone who in the past two years has managed to scrape together a half finished asteroids clone and a half finished robotron clone in Blitz Basic I have nothing but respect for these folks. Even if they don't always finish what they start. And why should they? I'm guessing they just do it for fun.

[df0notfound]

Yeah but clearly your just a bit shit, 2 years for asteroids and robotron in a hand holding language like Blitz Basic please

[matt0]

Yeah but clearly your just a bit shit, 2 years for asteroids and robotron in a hand holding language like Blitz Basic please

I don't claim to be any good, I do it for fun.

And my point still stands, making something as technical as an emulator on a closed format is something I think is a pretty cool achievement. I wouldn't know where to begin and I suspect you wouldn't either.

[df0notfound]

I understand its hard but I disagree with their attitude, starting loads of projects and never seeing one through is the worst thing possible for the dreamcast scene. Once someone does that then it reduces the chances by miles of someone else starting an emulator and seeing it through to the end "because it already has one".

But seriously the "when was the last time" anti-criticism speech is bullshit, I mean by that logic I can't say that 'The Village' was a predictable pile of tired garbage simply because I personally never wrote stared and directed a horror film of that style, which is pure bollocks.

So yes even though I have better things to do with my time than program dreamcast emus and games it doesn't mean I can't say "well that was a shit port of noiz"

[matt0]

I understand its hard but I disagree with their attitude, starting loads of projects and never seeing one through is the worst thing possible for the dreamcast scene. Once someone does that then it reduces the chances by miles of someone else starting an emulator and seeing it through to the end "because it already has one".

But seriously the "when was the last time" anti-criticism speech is bullshit, I mean by that logic I can't say that 'The Village' was a predictable pile of tired garbage simply because I personally never wrote stared and directed a horror film of that style, which is pure bollocks.

So yes even though I have better things to do with my time than program dreamcast emus and games it doesn't mean I can't say "well that was a shit port of noiz"

I take your point about the "when was the last time" thing to an extent, but I think there's a difference between laying into a professional film-maker for producing a shitty movie with a big studio backing him and people putting stuff out in their spare time off their own back.

Namely that nobody short of a professional film-maker with funding can make a period drama/horror film with an extended cast and on-location shooting - and with the resources and supposed talent available you'd expect a certain level of quality. Whereas with a small scale homebrew project I think you have to respect the limitations that people are working under - and again, before having a go at someone elses contribution ask yourself what you've actually done (because unlike with a big budget movie there is nothing to stop you starting your own project, bar your own abilities).

I do take your point about existing projects maybe putting off other people from starting their own, and I can see how it might in terms of people wanting to be the first to emulate console X on console Y. Just as an aside though this didn't really deter people in the PC emulation scene even when there were near perfect MD (Genecyst), NES (Nesticle) and SNES (Snes 9X, Zsnes) emulators from making their own projects.

And with DC emulation you can also ask whether an emulator is half finished or whether the DC actually has the horsepower to emulate something at full speed.

I guess I might seem a bit up myself and self righteous and I apologise for that, but it does wind me up that for every person who spends hours of their spare time developing something for other peoples enjoyment there are another 100 people who can spend 30 seconds slagging them off by posting on a forum, message board or whatever.

[roadkill]

I know someone personally responsible for one of the first on DC-emus.

It actually works, but the amount of random abuse he gets emailed to him along the lines of "your work SUXXXxxx!" means that he doesn't actually promote any of the decent newer stuff he's done.

[ianwuk]

I think the DC emulators are great. How can people complain about an emulator that has been created if they cannot do any better themselves?. I think the DC homebrew scene is very good and keeps the console alive, after all, it is a decent console.

[roadkill]

Yeah, I think prior to the XBox the DC has had the best homebrew scene of any console.

[nausea]

I think the DC emulators are great. How can people complain about an emulator that has been created if they cannot do any better themselves?. I think the DC homebrew scene is very good and keeps the console alive, after all, it is a decent console.

yeah, how can anyone complain about something that's completely free. i have the greatest respect for the people who made NesterDC, SMEG, MAMED, the NeoGeoCD emulator and all the other great emu's. made on their spare time, and freely available. i think it's a good thing that people are trying to do some cool homebrew stuff on the DC, i see nothing wrong with this. so what if they all aren't 100%. and if you complainers are so ELITE - programme it yourself.

[ianwuk]

Completely agree with you Nausea.