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Bought a load of comics the other day, here is what I thought (BECAUSE YOU CARE):

Iron and the Maiden #1 - of interest because its what Jason Rubin of Naughty Dog (Jax and Dexter etc) went off to do after games. Featuring character designs (but not art) by Joe Madiera. And its shit. Laughably bad writing and character names. Stick to games Rubin.

Powers #25 - been a while since I picked an issue of this up, so I'm out the loop on a lot of the story arc. But handily for me, this issue takes place months after the events of the last issue. And, its... kind of boring. And I have to wonder what the fuck happened to all the characters. Its not clear. And now I want to go and buy all the trade paperbacks to catch up. Damn you Bendis.

X-men 200 - Cable... gene disease... rogue... gambit... mutants fighting.. omg x-traitor... blah blah blah. Yeah its another boring x-men comic, but I'm a sucker for Bachallos art, which although monstrously watered down from his insane overly detailed work on Steampunk, is still kind of nice. But yeah... x-rubbish.

Wolverine ??? - the one with Jeph Loeb's name on the cover. The only reason I bought this in fact - Jeph Loeb writing wolverine, I had to see what he did. It was ok. I guess.

Batman 667 - A set up issue for a new story line. Seemed kind of pedestrian compared to the earlier issues in Morrisons run, but still... has potential.

Batman: Ego and Other Tales - a graphic novel/trade paperback collecting a load of stories by some artist whose name escapes me. Only read Ego and one other story in the book so far. Ego was pretty good. Has promise.

Hmm there were a couple of other comics also, but seeing as I cant even remember them, they must have been shit. AVOID. ;-)

But really, does anyone make good superhero comics any more apart from Grant Morrison?

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Mike Wieringo has died. :rolleyes:

I remember when the Marvel UK kids' reprint comic "Spectacular Spider-Man Adventures" reprinted one of his stories - that was the first time I saw an artist draw Spider-Man in the "skinny" style, and I loved it instantly. I also enjoyed the few issues of his Fantastic Four run I read, but unfortunately I don't think I've read many other full comics by him.

A lot of people on the tribute threads at various forums are talking about how he was one of the friendliest artists they spoke to at conventions. :rolleyes:

Instead of posting any one picture by him, I'll link to his DeviantArt page:

http://wieringo.deviantart.com/

Aw man :(

EDIT: Astilius, is this it? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B-P-R-D-THE-UNIVERSA...VQQcmdZViewItem

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But really, does anyone make good superhero comics any more apart from Grant Morrison?

Ellis's recent run on Thunderbolts has been the shit, Immortal Iron Fist by Matt Fraction is also decent. Not sure if you picked up Nextwave yet but you should.

Booster Gold #1 was quite good aswell, despite being written by Geoff 'shithouse' Johns

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The Programme seems pretty good. I got the first two issues the other day and hope to hang on for the full thing.

You tried The Runaways yet? I managed to nab the TPB of Vol 1 last week and its a cracker, even if Superheroes arent usually your bag.

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I've been trying to get into some Marvel stuff. Any recommendations to start me off?

I read Marvel Zombies, which was decent. And now I am grabbing all the DC Vs Marvel Crossovers.

You see I generally don't know much about comics. There are too many to know where to start.

I do own a pile of old random ones (mostly marvel) which I bought because they were dirt cheap in a comic shop and I liked the look of their covers.

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Frank Miller's Daredevil, Garth Ennis' Punisher, Grant Morrison's X-men (New X-Men) (you should be able to find the trades on amazon or in in your local). Nextwave by Warren Ellis is also great fun, a comedy spin on some obscure Marvel heros.

Most recent stuff is pretty well toilet, lots of sneaky film tie-ins and horrible 'events' that span every comic released in a month without actually telling a worthwhile story :)

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I'm not massively into the whole thing but the Marvel stuff that I've read and really enjoyed, and usually stand on their own pretty well arrre:

Ultimate Spider-Man: although it takes a wee bit to get going I think.

The Ultimates 1 & 2: Looks lovely, and really good fun. It's like the comic of a big budget action movie version of a comic.

Iron Man: Extremis: Looks lovely, has a good bit of origin stuff in it, stands on its own pretty damn well, and asks interesting questions about the character.

Nextwave rocks too but I must admit a few bits flew right over my head until I spent an afternoon going through wikipedia trying to get all the references.

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Right, what have I bought in the past couple of months? Think, man.

Well, I got Joe Matt's latest, Spent. I don't know if it's a collection of previously published stuff or a completely new work, but it's the story of his porn obsession and its effect on his life (or vice-versa, perhaps). It's pretty much typical Joe Matt stuff, so if you like him generally you'll like Spent. I found Peep Show a bit too autobiographical for its own good after a while, but I think this is some of his best work. The cartooning is tight (better than the initial Peep Shows) and the story is kind of joyously tragic. It's like he's transcended being self-consciously unflinching and now records the whole sorry mess with calm detachment.

Misery Loves Comedy by Ivan Brunetti, which is mostly a collection of his comic Schizo. I knew what to expect with this, but even so, JESUS CHRIST. Say you've got someone coming to dinner that you don't particularly like, and you want to offend them. Well, no matter who they are or what they do for a living, just leave this lying on the coffee table and don't bother defrosting the dessert. Needless to say it's great.

The Black Diamond Detective Agency by Eddie Campbell, which is a nicely painted adaptation of an unused screenplay by, I don't know, someone else. It's nice to see Campbell working though a whole book in colour and he does a great job, as you'd expect, but I can't say the story particularly did much for me, so I preferred The Fate of the Artist.

More James Kochalka stuff, Perfect Planet, Tiny Bubbles, Magic Boy & Robot Elf and the second Monkey vs. Robot book, probably a couple more. All fantastic, I can't fault him at all.

There are probably more, I can't remember. I've been reading loads of old stuff while moving bookshelves around, so it all blurs into one.

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Is One Piece any good? Being a maniac I bought the first book over in Japan and have no idea what it's like. Cue me, the book, my DS and a lot of kanji/word look up to be able to understand what is going on.

Gantz on the otherhand is pretty straightforward. People in black suits busting shit up. :)

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I've just got into Star Wars graphic novels, the Empire series in particular. Much darker than my girlfriend's Marvel comics and the stories are surprisingly profound, dealing with free will, loyalty, priviledge and morality. It's largely written from the imperial perspective (or rebels who start off in the imperial military) and set in the era of the original films. Empire volume 1 is a great little story about a cabal of imperial officers and governers trying to overthrow what they see as a two man theocracy.

Batman graphic novels also appeal. Can anyone recommend a good place to start? I've heard Frank Miller's Year One(?) and Killing Joke are big influences on the current films but are they any good?

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Batman graphic novels also appeal. Can anyone recommend a good place to start? I've heard Frank Miller's Year One(?) and Killing Joke are big influences on the current films but are they any good?

Killing Joke is excellent, as is Year One. I'd probably recommend Year One start with, but The Dark Knight Returns by the same author is even better. I started with that one, (I think it was an earlier work of Miller's, but that doesn't really matter). Also, I've only read it once, but I also quite liked The Long Halloween by Jeph Loeb - which had some influence on Batman Begins.

I really like Fables, but Jack of Fables is pretty disposable so far.

cheers. I'll try the first trade and see what I think then.

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Nextwave rocks too but I must admit a few bits flew right over my head until I spent an afternoon going through wikipedia trying to get all the references.

heh.

someone asked Warren Ellis on his forum if he'd been reading lots of old and obscure marvel books for research when he was starting Thunderbolts. his response was something along the lines of 'did I fuck, it's all from wikipedia' ;)

I'm quite enjoying Runaways now, especially since the wee manga-sized trades for girls (or whatever) are incredibly cheap.

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Killing Joke is excellent, as is Year One. I'd probably recommend Year One start with, but The Dark Knight Returns by the same author is even better. I started with that one, (I think it was an earlier work of Miller's, but that doesn't really matter). Also, I've only read it once, but I also quite liked The Long Halloween by Jeph Loeb - which had some influence on Batman Begins.

cheers. I'll try the first trade and see what I think then.

Thanks, I'll see if I can find Year One.

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Tell me some good british comics then. What about 2000ad?

2000ad have started doing collection reprints of major characters starting right at the beginning. The Dredd Case Files and Strontium Dog Agency Files are well worth picking up, as are The Rogue Trooper TPB's. I'm not sure about the Nemesis and ABC Warriors ones, you may need to ask Stilly. I do enjoy Sinister Dexter and Nikolai Dante though.

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That's what your looking for :D

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I'm not sure about the Nemesis and ABC Warriors ones

They're MAGNIFICENT! Easily my favourite 2000AD stories after Dredd. I think books 3 & 4 are the really good Nemesis ones? I may be wrong. You want the ones with Kevin O'Neill on pencil patrol though.

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The dark night returns or Year One.

Bought Year One on Saturday. Overall, I was impressed. The story was very grounded - Batman sure wasn't bullet-proof - but the story was more about Gordon, which I liked. The art wasn't very detailed. I guess it makes sense keeping it dark and a bit vague. The bonus strips were great and showed why Miller was exactly the right man to reboot Batman. Quite a bargain at £10.

The comic store owner also recommended The Dark Knight Returns. Should get that soon (or The Man Who Laughs or even The Long Halloween).

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