Old Boy

[StephenM]

Ahhhh, thankyou!

Wow!

As for the hammer scene - It is impressive, or was, but because so many people mention it, along with the octopus scene, it will loses its impact (like anything that's infamous)

But although people always make big things of those two parts, for me the two best scenes were the part with Oh Deasu (spelling?) walking around the school seeing his young self and that, and also the scene right near the end when

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we are close up on the hand of the 'baddie' as he remembers dropping his sister off of the dam, and then his hand makes a gun shape, we hear it cock, and then BANG.

Both brilliant bits. I must say if I judge a film on three factors - the story, the audio, and the visual effects - this won out on all three.

Now just need to see if I can manage to get a place ushering it at my local indie in January, else I'll have to - *gulp* pay to see it at the cinema.

[Andy_Why]

I went to see this on Saturday. Incredible film, though its one of those movies that its hard to recommend to some people as you can't be too sure what they'd make of it. I gave my sister a quick plot synopsis and she thought it sounded horrible. Still recommended however...

[Davros sock drawer]

Borrowed a double DVD set of this from my mate a few weeks ago. Looking forward to watching it when I get time.

[Dimahoo]

Not that he could tell her anyway, with his lack of tongue...

He could still write.

That coulda carried that out to its logical gory conclusion and cut all his fingers off.

[biglime]

Interestingly he can't solve the mystery of the missing quote button.

[StephenM]

Not that he could tell her anyway, with his lack of tongue...

He could still write.

That coulda carried that out to its logical gory conclusion and cut all his fingers off.

Fair.

I would've rather, as someone said someplace, they just left it how it was, but it ended at the point where

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Woojin kills himself

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[Sabreman]

Well, I did end up missing this at the cinema but I bought it from CDWow and just finished watching it.

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A very solid film indeed, and completely unreadable. I find these kind of films highly entertaining - the ones that are just one step ahead of you... realisation dawning moments before things are made clear. I loved the fact that hypnosis brings such an ambiguity to the characters' motivations - especially when you consider that the core romantic relationship in the film is essentially a fabrication. The ending is not exactly happy, but it is agreeably fresh and ballsy

I liked the scrappy, almost half-arsed brawl that was the main fight scene. I also liked very much that Dae-Su didn't come steaming out of his prison on a roaring rampage of revenge

[Old Dear's Menu]

Watched this the other day and thought it was great apart from the shitty villain-tells-the-hero-why-he-is-doing-what-he-is-doing reveal scene. I cannot express how out of place it felt amongst the rest of movie's phenomenal brilliance... A cheesy, evil-laughing villain was the last thing I was expecting...

And I also didn't like how the story was neatly wrapped up and every question was pretty much answered and very little was left to the imagination. If this final act exposition was dropped, so we had to piece together what is instead lazily told to us by the dumb-ass villain, then I might have found it a bit deeper...

Of course, Min-Sik Choi's (sp?) acting is ace throughout and glosses over most of my grumblings. He effectively polishes the turd that is the final act into something quite exhilarating (even if the subject matter is handled pretty poorly, imo...)

Still enjoyed it a lot, like.

[Darragh]

I'm fucking dying to see this. Any word on a R2 release?

[shogun2k]

Watched this the other day and thought it was great apart from the shitty villain-tells-the-hero-why-he-is-doing-what-he-is-doing reveal scene. I cannot express how out of place it felt amongst the rest of movie's phenomenal brilliance... A cheesy, evil-laughing villain was the last thing I was expecting...

And I also didn't like how the story was neatly wrapped up and every question was pretty much answered and very little was left to the imagination. If this final act exposition was dropped, so we had to piece together what is instead lazily told to us by the dumb-ass villain, then I might have found it a bit deeper...

Of course, Min-Sik Choi's (sp?) acting is ace throughout and glosses over most of my grumblings. He effectively polishes the turd that is the final act into something quite exhilarating (even if the subject matter is handled pretty poorly, imo...)

Still enjoyed it a lot, like.

Probably some light spoilers -

Did you consider whether he had seen what you see, whether what he tells his friend was what happened or whether it was purely the rumour. Was there a relationship , even though woojin confirms it, did she jump or was she pushed... lots of stuff that doesnt neatly tie up, there are 3 individuals running in the school scene with young and old duesu etc. You could say the exposition is fairly heavily layed but you must remember that for us films with subs require 100% attention, to someone half watching the film.. or missing bits when watched in their mother tongue it is necessary to ensure everyone can catch up by the end!

Similarily the end scene is tottally unnatural, it is not cliche..he reveals some things but alot is still left to the imagination, also it is fantastically well done. The acting of deusu in that last scene is top notch when looking at the film as a whole, Woojin shooting the assasin to stop him killing deusu is fairly inventive. Did you like when he finally presses the button to kill woojin and it just plays the rather unsavoury soundtrack.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DEUSU!!, etc.

I watched it for the 5th time yesterday, he gets his glasses from the woman in the elevator . The whole "I set up the ID to trap you" bit is always lost on me, I still dont get what goes on there.

[MDK]

Yeah it's a film that you won't forget in a hurry, I love it when I have absolutely no idea what's going to happen in a film, although I guessed what was going on at the end before it was made obvious.

The ending I found really sick, I was totally enjoying it up to then, well apart from the dentistry scene. I do believe it was a happy ending, either that or the music was extremely ironic. I thought the soundtrack was one of the best things about the film, it's a dark and disturbing film with a soundtrack that you'd expect from a romantic drama or something and yet it doesn't feel out of place.

Oh and the hammer fight scene is terrific. Totally what I wanted to see after the glut of balletic violence-on-speed brought about by the Matrix films.

[stephen129]

Saw this today, and it made me realise just what a pussy assed mofo of a movie Saw was. Fucking brilliant, even if it does leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Anyone seen it?

Really want to watch this, but its an 18 isn't?

I will just have to wait for the DVD

[stephen129]

Haven't seen it yet, and to be honest if I hadn't switched onto Film '04 yesterday, I'd most likely never have hear anything about it. But by god, it's a stylish piece of work.

It is available on R3 DVD at 'YesAsia' if anyone's interested, but as it's only DTS, I've had to pass. Which pisses me off no end. Still, if I can track down a cinema which is showing it, I'll have to go and see it.

Whats DTS?

And is Yesasia a good site?

I was recommemended it by a Chinese friend of mine.

[Old Dear's Menu]

DTS = Digital Theather Systems

(it's a sound thing...)

[Dork Knight]

And is Yesasia a good site?

I was recommemended it by a Chinese friend of mine.

Never had an issue with YesAsia, pretty good, iirc no customs charges if you order over a certain value - STRANGE

[Dork Knight]

Really want to watch this, but its an 18 isn't?

I will just have to wait for the DVD

DVD's been out for month's - Top Film

I got it from CD-Wow, and a mate got his from YesAsia

[Davros sock drawer]

Watched it last night. Thought it was great but felt really grimmed out afterwards. I find that as I get older I reflect on things like this long after I've finished watching.

Will be watching the documentary at some point.