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before I do this does this look like the definitove list?

1 Flag CTF Zanzibar

CTF Classic Colossus

1 Bomb Fast Assault Burial Mounds

Team Crazy King Ascension

Neutral Bomb Assault Coagulation

Team Ball Lockout

Team Ball Colossus

Single Bomb Assault Zanzibar

Neutral Bomb Assault Midship

3 Plots (Territories) Midship

3 Plots (Territories) Lockout

Team Slayer Ivory Tower

Team Slayer Lockout

1 Flag CTF Fast Ivory Tower

1 Flag CTF Fast Burial Mounds

CTF Classic Beaver Creek

Team Slayer Colossus

CTF Classic Midship

CTF Shotguns Midship

1 Flag CTF Fast Lockout

1 Bomb Fast Assault Ivory Tower

3 Plots (Territories) Colossus

3 Plots (Territories) Ascension

1 Flag CTF Fast Ascension

If not linkage please...

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I don't know how this is going to be enforced. I don't know anywhere to grab weapons/flags through walls, and I don't really care.

Can't we have some kind of gentleman's agreement not to grab stuff through walls?

But what is a wall, thats what needs the clarification. The gate on Zanzibar? The window on Waterworks?

Probably loads more.

If Bungie has said that you are supposed to be able to take the ball through the roof on Lockout then what about that as it's part of the game?

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The interpretation of Bungie's web post is bizarre.

"Currently you can perform these glitches. We're not currently able to track them. Some of them are less than ideal - eg. the Coag. flag one, the Zanizbar one. You won't be banned for cheating if you use them." <> "These glitches form part of the Marquis of Queensbury rules."

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The tournament will be better if we agree not to use these cheap tactics. People who have played the game less won't know about them, and will find it annoying and confusing.

Bungie have said it's acceptable so they don't have to fix it or start dishing out contentious bans.

Anything that is physically nonsensical (such as pulling a bomb through the floor or passing a flag through a shatter-proof window) should be avoided. Grabbing the flag through the gate on Zanzibar, however, makes sense - even if you've never played the game before.

Maybe if a team consistently exploits these bugs, they should be expelled from the tournament.

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So long as we play as we would be played by, we can't complain.

Like I say, I don't personally think stealing stuff through walls and floors is bad. Anyone can do it. Sometimes by accident.

What I don't want to see is stuff like hiding the bomb/ball in impossible to reach places and so on. Basically, using geometry glitches to your advantage should be acceptable. Using them to make it actually impossible for your opponents to win should not.

That's my feeling.

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Basically, using geometry glitches to your advantage should be acceptable. Using them to make it actually impossible for your opponents to win should not.

I just think that there's a conflict there that can only be resolved by a direct ban on using any geometry glitches.

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your list still appears to be wrong. minor clan is all team slayer (total 17) plus all team skirmish (total 25) meaning there are 42 game types total. your list is only 24 long from memory.

a couple of things: maybe game types for the group stage should be such, that once a gametype has been drawn, it stays off the roster. since there are 42 game types, and at most 35 games to be played, this would mean we'd get to play most in the course of the tournament.

for the play-offs, maybe we do a random draw of five from the complete list each time. and maybe play over 7 legs instead of 5? best of 9 for the final?

also i believe that bungie actually have some kind of weighting system so that certain maps get played more than others (so team phantoms is rare, team slayer colossus is common).

of course this can be decided later, the main thing is getting the initial list right so you can do the draw ...

this is what i think the list should be:

Team Slayer Burial Mounds

Team Slayer Ivory Tower

Team Slayer Ascension

Team Slayer Colossus

Team Slayer Beaver Creek

Team Slayer Zanzibar

Team Slayer Midship

Team Slayer Foundation

Team Slayer Coagulation

Fiesta Team Slayer Ascension

Fiesta Team Slayer Beaver Creek

Team Rockets Ivory Tower

Team Swords Lockout

Team Swords Beaver Creek

Team Shotguns Midship

Team Phantoms Lockout

Team Phantoms Midship

1 Flag CTF Zanzibar

1 Flag CTF Fast Ivory Tower

1 Flag CTF Fast Burial Mounds

Assault Zanzibar

Assault Burial Mounds

Rapid Assault Ivory Tower

Neutral Assault Coagulation

Multi Flag CTF Colossus

1 Flag CTF Fast Lockout

Neutral Bomb Fast Beaver Creek

Neutral Bomb Fast Midship

Classic CTF Midship

1 Flag CTF Coagulation

Neutral Bomb Fast Foundation

Shotgun CTF Midship

3 Plots Lockout

Team Ball Lockout

Team Crazy King Ascension

3 Plots Midship

3 Plots Ascension

Team Ball Colossus

Team Ball Ivory Tower

Team Ball Foundation

Team Crazy King Beaver Creek

Team Crazy King Ivory Tower

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new draw as posted in the other thread.

week 1 (fixture a)

3 Plots (Territories) Lockout

Team Slayer Colossus

1 Flag CTF Fast Ivory Tower

CTF Classic Colossus

3 Plots (Territories) Midship

week 1 (fixture B)

Team Slayer Lockout

3 Plots (Territories) Colossus

3 Plots (Territories) Midship

3 Plots (Territories) Colossus

Team Slayer Colossus

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Wow, 3 Plots wasnt drawn much was it? :)

The curse of randomness Im afraid.

There is a duplicated gametype on the second fixture sheet. I am willing to do another. It is getting a bit farcical though, but we can make it if we get two the same (map and gametype) I hit the button again until for that fixture group until we get them all different.

That said matchmaking often throws the same thing up in a row, and now I can see why.

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new draw as posted in the other thread.

week 1 (fixture a)

3 Plots (Territories) Lockout

Team Slayer Colossus

1 Flag CTF Fast Ivory Tower

CTF Classic Colossus

3 Plots (Territories) Midship

week 1 (fixture B)

Team Slayer Lockout

3 Plots (Territories) Colossus

3 Plots (Territories) Midship

3 Plots (Territories) Colossus

Team Slayer Colossus

Is fixture a the first one played, or the first one on the fixture list?

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The curse of randomness Im afraid.

There is a duplicated gametype on the second fixture sheet. I am willing to do another. It is getting a bit farcical though, but we can make it if we get two the same (map and gametype) I hit the button again until for that fixture group until we get them all different.

That said matchmaking often throws the same thing up in a row, and now I can see why.

Yeah, change it. And change it for the future too.

It's not even a good game type in this case. Once is fair, twice is dull.

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The curse of randomness Im afraid.

There is a duplicated gametype on the second fixture sheet. I am willing to do another. It is getting a bit farcical though, but we can make it if we get two the same (map and gametype) I hit the button again until for that fixture group until we get them all different.

That said matchmaking often throws the same thing up in a row, and now I can see why.

Jesus tittyfucking christ - how hard is it to put the gametypes into a random generator which excludes the ones already selected. Number 3 doesnt come up six times in a row in the lottery does it?

Getting the same gametype 4 times in a row on matchmaking makes me want to cry.

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IMPORTANT

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Draw re-done, no duplicate numbers.

Its not gonna be your favourite list, cause its random.

If you dont like any of the game, blame bungie.

Any disucssion towards new gametypes will be considered and actioned for the following week. Take this list as FINAL, sorry for previous confusions.

fixture (a)

Game type Map

CTF Shotguns Midship

CTF Classic Colossus

3 Plots (Territories) Ascension

Team Slayer Lockout

1 Flag CTF Fast Ascension

Fixture b

Game type Map

Team Ball Lockout

CTF Classic Beaver Creek

Neutral Bomb Assault Coagulation

1 Bomb Fast Assault Ivory Tower

1 Bomb Fast Assault Burial Mounds

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