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To be fair, regeneration was to replace an actor, so it needed some kind of explanation, but it was never going to be bullet proof (why only 12? Why come back as an old man, like Jon Pertwee?). But it led to some fantastic plot lines, like the Master using up all his regenerations and turning into a walking rotting corpse until he figured out how to basically steal someone else's body.

Does the Doctor get stupider as he get's older? The Hartnell incarnation, if this is belived to be his 1st, must have lived a long time before getting the chop. nowadays he's going through bodies at super speed in comparison!

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Does the Doctor get stupider as he get's older? The Hartnell incarnation, if this is belived to be his 1st, must have lived a long time before getting the chop. nowadays he's going through bodies at super speed in comparison!

That's what working for the BBC does for you.

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The Cybermen started off so hard, much like the Borg in concept. By the time they got to later Cybermen stories they were just rubbish gangster robots, and could pretty much be killed just by hearing about gold.

The Tomb of the Cybermen with Patrick Troughton was the best cyberman story for me.

It was great though in 'The Five Doctors' where that assasain robot rampaged through about 10 cybermen with all his arrows and blades and stuff. Did Pertwee ever meet them? During his reign that is.

Ah I loved Dr Who as a kid.

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The Tomb of the Cybermen with Patrick Troughton was the best cyberman story for me.

It was great though in 'The Five Doctors' where that assasain robot rampaged through about 10 cybermen with all his arrows and blades and stuff.  Did Pertwee ever meet them?  During his reign that is.

Ah I love Dr Who.

Ah, the Raston warrior robot. Now that sadly has not aged well :P stick to the book.

Don't think Pertwee ever did meet the Cybermen, but then he was exiled to earth most of the time he was the Doctor.

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Ah, the Raston warrior robot. Now that sadly has not aged well :( stick to the book.

It would a be a great one to bring back with some fancy effects, the concept is brilliant - scared me shitless as a kid. And the shots of him decapitating and chopping the limbs off cybermen is one of the most visceral Who moments I can remember (I have it on video but dont want to spoil the nostalgia :P).

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Does the Doctor get stupider as he get's older? The Hartnell incarnation, if this is belived to be his 1st, must have lived a long time before getting the chop. nowadays he's going through bodies at super speed in comparison!

Depends. He may well go galavanting between - or even during - stories. He could easily dash into the TARDIS, do loads of stuff for years of his own time, then dash back out again, seconds after he went in.

Some seasons of the show linked the stories together, and he was without time travel for most of the Pertwee years, but most of the time he could easily have done loads of other stuff. In fact, he did age several hundred years between Hartnell and Baker. Presumably there were loads of untelevised adventures (or perhaps just a very long untelevised beach holiday).

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Some questions:

Can any one explain what was reffered to when the Doctor talks to the Autons about when they unviel the TARDIS and go mental?

Secondly: I thought the TARDIS was supposed to be broke. I only ever read a few of the books but I thought the Doctor couldn't control where the TARDIS went. I also remember it being explained that the TARDIS had become stuck as a police box. It was supposed to be able to change its exterior based on where it travels to.

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Can someone tell me the name of a Dr Who monster - I think they were disguised as humans, during Tom Bakers stint, but when they removed their masks they were like green slim with a single eye in the head. I think I remember a scene where one is sitting at a dressing table and it takes its human face off. I think it wore a cravat.

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I thought it was great.

I was never a huge Who fan but grew up in the 70s and remember enjoying the Baker years. I lost interest when Davidson came along though.

So I didn't have any great expectations about the new series and I was very pleasantly surprised. I thought Ecclestone was great, the perfect combination of gravitas and eccentricity, and he reminded me a lot of Tom Baker in that respect. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the series especially given that there's an episode by one of the League of Gentlemen and one by Stephen Moffat who wrote Coupling and Joking Apart - so that will be intricately plotted and building up to a stupendous final five minutes (I confidently predict).

I can understand why Davros, Linkster et al who are huge fans of the original run might be disappointed but as a near neutral I'm perfectly happy with it.

Oh, and I used to have nightmares about the sea monsters, for some reason.

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I have a Dr. Who story I heard today.

Sylvester McCoy was at some Dr Who celebration thing a few years back, and he was looking at a wallmounted gallery of all the doctors.

And then Tom Baker came up, pished, and put an arm around him.

"Lets face it, we shit all over these other cunts," he said.

And that's a true story.

THE END.

Also, I pure mental wanted to bang Ace until her tights exploded.

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And Peri? Christ almighty. She did me in, that American fox. And look at her now! She looks fucking great!

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Look over Nicola Bryant's shoulder in that pic.

Fucking nWo merchandise!!! I LOVE HER!

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Can someone tell me the name of a Dr Who monster - I think they were disguised as humans, during Tom Bakers stint, but when they removed their masks they were like green slim with a single eye in the head.  I think I remember a scene where one is sitting at a dressing table and it takes its human face off.  I think it wore a cravat.

That's in "City of Death" and it's the last of the Jaggaroth (sp?). I only know this because it was on UK Gold the other day.

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Some questions:

Can any one explain what was reffered to when the Doctor talks to the Autons about when they unviel the TARDIS and go mental?

No. It's very common in Dr Who stories for him to refer to stories which have never been portrayed in the series or as books. The line Ecclestone came out with there reminded me of another Who story, Talons of Weng Chiang, when he refers to being with an army during an earth world war during the year 5000.

Off at a slight tangent, but it kind of bugged me in the lines leading up to that scene with all that talk of the Shadow Convention, like there's some rule of combat to which the galaxy must defer. Although it is mentioned in older stories (Cyberbombs being illegal for example), it's a bit Star Trek for me.

Secondly: I thought the TARDIS was supposed to be broke. I only ever read a few of the books but I thought the Doctor couldn't control where the TARDIS went.

It's broken insofar as it provides a handy narrative device for random stories. the Doctor often plays dumb in that he expects to go somewhere but gets it wrong. nonsense really, he's a traveller and an adventurer so puts on the pretence just so he can go somewhere new. If he ever really *needs* to get somewhere, he gets there, proving he knows what he's doing & the TARDIS will obey.

I also remember it being explained that the TARDIS had become stuck as a police box. It was supposed to be able to change its exterior based on where it travels to.

That is true. The chameleon circuit which broke on a visit to earth and he "never got around to fixing." One of my fave lines in the new one is "It's a disguise". Yeah, it was in 1950 :)

He has an enemy called The Master who has the only other Type 40 TARDIS still in operation with a perfectly functioning chameleon circuit & does manage to disguise itself wherever it goes.

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Can someone tell me the name of a Dr Who monster - I think they were disguised as humans, during Tom Bakers stint, but when they removed their masks they were like green slim with a single eye in the head.  I think I remember a scene where one is sitting at a dressing table and it takes its human face off.  I think it wore a cravat.

Skaroth, last of the Jagaroth (from City of Death):

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You saw the creature inside the Dalek in Genesis of the Daleks (possibly in other stories too).

Fishy

EDIT: Oops! Linkster got there before me.

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And to answer the earlier "Why doesn't he recognise himself/choose his regenerations" question (which I don't think has been answered -- but I'm tired, so you'll just have to unleash the mind probe on me if I'm wrong), the basic working of it suggests that Time Lords *can* choose their bodies if they regenerate by choice, or if a body naturally wears out -- which is why Romana could flick through bodies as she does in "Destiny of the Daleks". In the doctor's case, in all but the first two instances, he's not given the choice because his body's essentially been poisoned/fallen off a tower/poisoned (again!)/crashlanded Tardis (weak) or brutally gunned down by LA gangsters. I wish I was kidding about that last one. Hopefully we'll find out the circumstances surrounding Ecclestone's regeneration, although not a scene, as they haven't seemingly hired Sylvester McCoy back for anything.

(the two exceptions would be the first two -- Troughton, as mentioned, gets lots of choices, but rejects them all, basically because he's, well, Pat Troughton and therefore the f'n MAN.... and so gets stuck with Pertwee when the Time Lords choose for him. And Hartnell doesn't actually get done in by the Cybermen in 10th Planet, he just mumbles some rubbish about his body wearing out (which, sadly, Hartnell's actual body and brain were doing right around then) -- so presumably if he'd remembered his body was due for its 700 year checkup, he could have chosen faces at will. Perhaps he did pick Troughton, at least partially)

Yes, I'm a Who nerd. And probably on the wrong forum. Then again, having known plenty of Who nerds, I don't always feel safe in their company. Or my own, come to think of it.

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I've enjoyed reading this thread about Doctor Who more than watching that episode on saturday night.

Also some of you seem to be saying this is the best British TV in years, for which you want twatting in the face with your own deluded opinions. The Government Inspector, on a few weeks ago, for example, was absolutely stunning TV and a lot better than some chav getting "eaten" by a sub-'92- cgi wheelie bin.

I suppose you might be referring to me with some of this. I'll qualify and simplify my explanation for you to make things easier. Firstly, I said it was the best British drama in years, although really I should have added 'original' to that. You then go on to cite The Government Inspector, a dramatisation of recent current affairs made to entertain people who have no interest in following the news. This is the sort of programming I like to call 'news lite', all the pertinent facts hidden and obscured by 'emotion' and 'character'.

In fact, a programme like The Government Inspector totally baffles me. I can understand a dramatisation of something that happened a long time ago but to go 'behind the scenes of a scandal which nearly brought down a government' that those of us with an interest actually thought about at the time, when it mattered, is almost meaningless. Except perhaps as a piece of pro media propaganda designed to stir the pot in the run up to an inpending election. I respect the fact that you think that this is 'stunning TV' but I suspect that you are easily stunned and easily lead.

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I suppose you might be referring to me with some of this.  I'll qualify and simplify my explanation for you to make things easier.  Firstly, I said it was the best British drama in years, although really I should have added 'original' to that.  You then go on to cite The Government Inspector, a dramatisation of recent current affairs made to entertain people who have no interest in following the news. This is the sort of programming I like to call 'news lite', all the pertinent facts hidden and obscured by 'emotion' and 'character'.

In fact, a programme like The Government Inspector totally baffles me.  I can understand a dramatisation of something that happened a long time ago but to go 'behind the scenes of a scandal which nearly brought down a government'  that those of us with an interest actually thought about at the time, when it mattered, is almost meaningless.  Except perhaps as a piece of pro media propaganda designed to stir the pot in the run up to an inpending election.  I respect the fact that you think that this is 'stunning TV' but I suspect that you are easily stunned and easily lead.

I started a reply along those very lines but you've said it far better than I was managing to.

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Next week's episode looks to guest star a bunch of Space Precinct and Farscape rejects

Oi - Farscape had FANTASTIC visual and creature effects - easily among the best produced for TV (or film for that matter).

At least they TRY to make different looking aliens, not just the standard Trek bumpy headed humans.

so though I kinda like the idea behind it ('Get your tickets to the End of the World!'),

I wonder if they serve food? - kinda like a Restaurant at the End of the Universe...

Oh, and I found the incidental music really rather horrible. Better to have no score at all than that rubbish.

Heh you should hear some of the stuff they used to have :P - this is a several hundred percent improvement!

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Oi - Farscape had FANTASTIC visual and creature effects - easily among the best produced for TV (or film for that matter).

At least they TRY to make different looking aliens, not just the standard Trek bumpy headed humans.

I wonder if they serve food? - kinda like a Restaurant at the End of the Universe...

Heh you should hear some of the stuff they used to have  :D  - this is a several hundred percent improvement!

Just read Jason Arnopps review of episode 3 The unquiet Dead.

This is the episode with Charles Dickens in BTW with gaseous monsters possessing the dead :D

heres some of his comments

I honestly think it's up there with Weng Chiang, which is a good comparison in terms of atmosphere. I would have to give it a ten, because I'm darned if I can think of anything that's wrong with it.

As much as I love Rose and The End Of The World, this one's my favourite. Sorry Russell! But congratulations Mr Gatiss.

I think the kids'll love it in a 'Sweet Jesus, I won't be able to sleep with the lights off for years' kinda way. It's not excessively horrific, but I know it would have really frightened me as a kid. Why, it frightened me while I was watching it, I tells ya. The first few minutes are chill-tastic.

The Doctor's reassuringly cheerful presence will hopefully be comforting to the younger viewer... there are some great gags in there too, so it's not all morbid.

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Oi - Farscape had FANTASTIC visual and creature effects - easily among the best produced for TV (or film for that matter).

I saw the first episode of this the other day. The production value is pretty high but the show itself seemed a bit crap. It's like the illegitimate child of Blakes 7 and the Muppet Show (with all the humour removed).

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I saw the first episode of this the other day.  The production value is pretty high but the show itself seemed a bit crap.  It's like the illegitimate child of Blakes 7 and  the Muppet Show (with all the humour removed).

Everyone makes the Muppet Show crack :D - well it is a Henson's production - but the creatures really are fantastically well done, with the two regular 'cast' Rygel and especially Pilot, you do forget they're just a mass of wires and latex.

As with anything it takes a few episodes to find it's feet - the first half dozen maybe are a bit pants, but once the main plotlines start to kick in it's fantastic!

The relationship between the two leads is handled incredibly well and doesn't become vomit inducing or dull once the 'will they? won't they?' stuff is done with.

It's a total breath of fresh air from po-faced sci fi. It's totally irreverent, often WAY out there and just fun.

There aren't many series that push their main character to the brink of madness over the course of a couple of seasons in the course of furthering the plot.

There's little or no technobable - there's often pisstaking that something isn't scientifically explainable.

And it is in the main - very funny, once the cast and writers hit their stride.

Please give it a chance!

Actually (back to Who for a minute) the irreverence, fast hyperactive main character and esp the new Tardis set struck me as being VERY Farscapey :D

Hopefully a good sign.

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