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When does this happen exactly?

I think he's talking about when the main girl is directing her flashlight around an early cave, it lingers briefly on an odd shaped rock on an overhang. When she directs the flashlight there again a few seconds later, its gone. That bit really freaked me up.

Unless its another bit, in which case I completely missed it.

one thing that I was dissapointed in...

was that we never got a resolution on the 'childrens laughter' the 'hero' heard at certain points. It could be, i guess is, just that she was going mad, but she heard it long before she started going obviously mad and it was inferred it was an actual sound that only she was hearing.

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I loved this film, but I am not sure I could take the stress of watching it again at home  :angry:

Agreed. I think the only way to tackle it is a 'get pished with mates and do your best to take the mickey out of it then stay up all night' dealy :(

Watched this last night. A real shame I missed it at the cinema. Very enjoyable indeed.

It was definitely a bizzare shared experience, that's for sure. Everyone (and I mean everyone) left the theatre visibly shaken, not a lot of movies can say they did that.

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I saw it wasted with some friends a couple of months ago and thought it was the best Western horror film I'd seen in years. Finally got the DVD this afternoon and thought it was even better sober.

The slow beginning just heightens the tension and it's interesting to spot the portents of doom (a repeated bit of dialogue is "I'll live"/"Don't worry, I'll survive", etc.) early on. I don't have any criticisms; even the character I can't stand, Holly, adds to the film because you see her façade fall away when she realises what she's gotten herself into and the entire cast descends into panic.

I still think the most frightening scene is early in the expedition when Sarah gets stuck in a tight passage. It's so uncomfortable, it's almost unwatchable.

I'd love to read more about the evolution of the albinos. Hopefully one of the special features has some more info.

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I still think the most frightening scene is early in the expedition when Sarah gets stuck in a tight passage. It's so uncomfortable, it's almost unwatchable.

Seconded. The great thing about the film is that it's fascinating even before the shit hits the fan, as it were.

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It's a great film, I tried watching it again on the plane back from the US in September, but it was just too light in the cabin to bother. Will have to get it out on DVD soon.

The weirdest thing about it for me, though, is that the two names I use online are Holly and Juno. I've gotten so used to being called them, and neither of them are names you hear an awful lot, so it was very odd to hear someone else using them for the whole length of the film. Especially Juno, I've never come across anyone else with that name.

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Hey there.

"20th Century Fox need to give Neil Marshall the next movie in the Alien franchise, take it back to its horror roots."

I kind hope that's the last thing they ever do. I dont think either of his first two flicks have been that GREAT. But I do think the guy has talent and is one of our brightest hopes at the moment.

Rather than see him jump on the holywood bandwagon and have him do sequels I would ather him make more original movies.

I would rather him make this generations ALIEN as apose to this years sequel to alien.

The guy seems to be full of big ideas and his next flick DOOMSDAY sounds intresting it's about Britain in in the future in which Scotland is ficked up my some plague and walled off from England.

I heard it descibed as "a futuristic action thriller with some politics involved, the movie is to be set here in the United Kingdom. The movie is said to be in the vein of "Mad Max" and will focus on a small group of people who try to stop an impending disaster."

I just hope the guy keeps making movies and they get better and better.

Despin out.

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Hey there.

"20th Century Fox need to give Neil Marshall the next movie in the Alien franchise, take it back to its horror roots."

I kind hope that's the last thing they ever do. I dont think either of his first two flicks have been that GREAT. But I do think the guy has talent and is one of our brightest hopes at the moment.

Rather than see him jump on the holywood bandwagon and have him do sequels I would ather him make more original movies.

I would rather him make this generations ALIEN as apose to this years sequel to alien.

The guy seems to be full of big ideas and his next flick DOOMSDAY sounds intresting it's about  Britain in in the future in which Scotland is ficked up my some plague and walled off from England.

I heard it descibed as "a futuristic action thriller with some politics involved, the movie is to be set here in the United Kingdom. The movie is said to be in the vein of "Mad Max" and will focus on a small group of people who try to stop an impending disaster."

I just hope the guy keeps making movies and they get better and better.

Despin out.

Why can't a sequel to Alien be "this generation's Alien" though? There's not much originality in The Descent, save for the all female cast and downbeat tone.

I'm all for him doing his own original material but would love to see the Alien franchise rejuvanted and he seems the ideal candidate.

By getting a major Hollywood franchie installment under his belt, he may be afforded even more oppurtunities to do the films he really wants. Nothing wrong in playing the Hollywood game once in a while, if it means even more freedom later down the line.

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Hey there.

"Why can't a sequel to Alien be "this generation's Alien" though?"

Because that would be sad as fuck and pretty much sum up the film industry... Because the original Alien was ORIGINAL and fresh and came out of nowhere and created a new standard. And had so much more of an impact because of that.

I love movies sequel or not. If I dig it I dig it. But we dont seem to be creating many new ICONIC genre movies these days. Where are this generations Aliens, Terminators and Preditors?

I would take a fresh new great ORIGINAL genre movie from Marshal than the greatest Alien sequel ever made.

"There's not much originality in The Descent, save for the all female cast and downbeat tone."

I know....

Despin out.

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Hey there.

"Why can't a sequel to Alien be "this generation's Alien" though?"

Because that would be sad as fuck and pretty much sum up the film industry... Because the original Alien was ORIGINAL and fresh and came out of nowhere and created a new standard. And had so much more of an impact because of that.

I love movies sequel or not. If I dig it I dig it. But we dont seem to be creating many new ICONIC genre movies these days. Where are this generations Aliens, Terminators and Preditors?

I would take a fresh new great ORIGINAL genre movie from Marshal than the greatest Alien sequel ever made.

"There's not much originality in The Descent, save for the all female cast and downbeat tone."

I know....

Despin out.

Still, do you not agree that by working on an already established IP, he can make more of a name for himself in Hollywood, and then go on to creating his own material?

It may not be ideal, but that's the way it works in modern cinema.

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Hey there.

"Still, do you not agree that by working on an already established IP, he can make more of a name for himself in Hollywood, and then go on to creating his own material?

It may not be ideal, but that's the way it works in modern cinema."

Maybe. But I will have much more respect for the guy if he keeps making his own movies over here (even if half the time the money isnt from here and they dont even shoot them here...). Sure he could take the money and run and try and raise his stock by being a hired gun for hollywood but I just think it would be so much cooler if he stays in the uk and keeps making his own little movies AND THEY MAKE MONEY. Enough at least to let him make his next movie.. Imean it seems to be working for him so far... His last two films made fuck all in the scheme of things but he is getting his scripts greenlit.

I would like to see him as the GENRE Shane Meadows. I think Shane Meadows is one of the best filmmakers working in the UK today. He has had offers to go to the US and shoot "BIG" (comared to the productions he's used to) movies for lots of money. But he wants to stay here and keep telling his own stories and telling them well.. I dunno.. I respect that a lot.

And sure if Marshal wants to make a 100 million dollar science ficiton epic he may have to go the route you suggest.. But I reckon he can still make a lot of intresting movies of here for a lower budget an still have a half decent scope to them.

I guess the only way our own industry can grow is by people making movies with our own money and them finding an audience..

Despin out.

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I have decided I am going to watch this again.  Not sure why, some sort of sick perverted desire  :)

wish me luck!

man, I so wish movies freaked me that much :o remember leaving my mates after a good giggle at Nightmare on Elm Street and he didn't want to be left alone, was so jealous.

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man, I so wish movies freaked me that much ;) remember leaving my mates after a good giggle at Nightmare on Elm Street and he didn't want to be left alone, was so jealous.

I used to get very freaked when I was younger

Indeed I watched the first nightmare on Elm street on my own while my parents where in bed, while I was watching it I could of swore I seen the back door handle move as if someone was trying to get in, but Im sure it must of been Iwas so scared.

anyway. Descent is the first film to do that to me for a long while. I let out audible yelps a good few times during the film in the cinema. You do do get a nice buzz of relief as you leave the cinema though.

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Hey there.

"Still, do you not agree that by working on an already established IP, he can make more of a name for himself in Hollywood, and then go on to creating his own material?

It may not be ideal, but that's the way it works in modern cinema."

Maybe. But I will have much more respect for the guy if he keeps making his own movies over here (even if half the time the money isnt from here and they dont even shoot them here...). Sure he could take the money and run and try and raise his stock by being a hired gun for hollywood but I just think it would be so much cooler if he stays in the uk and keeps making his own little movies AND THEY MAKE MONEY. Enough at least to let him make his next movie.. Imean it seems to be working for him so far... His last two films made fuck all in the scheme of things but he is getting his scripts greenlit.

I would like to see him as the GENRE Shane Meadows. I think Shane Meadows is one of the best filmmakers working in the UK today. He has had offers to go to the US and shoot "BIG" (comared to the productions he's used to) movies for lots of money. But he wants to stay here and keep telling his own stories and telling them well.. I dunno.. I respect that a lot.

And sure if Marshal wants to make a 100 million dollar science ficiton epic he may have to go the route you suggest.. But I reckon he can still make a lot of intresting movies of here for a lower budget an still have a half decent scope to them.

I guess the only way our own industry can grow is by people making movies with our own money and them finding an audience..

Despin out.

I hear what your saying and agree to an extent. Originality is always good, it's just harder to be completely original today. I do believe Marshall has plenty of new ideas in him and I have a lot of faith in him. Thing is, I don't see the British industry changing a great deal without Hollywood. What's stopping Neil Marshall setting up his own production company like the Ridley and Tony Scott? I appreciate your respect for Shane Meadows but the thing is, his movies aren't exactly Hollywood so it's natural for him to turn down big budget stuff, his stuff is very much character driven. A genre director would be foolish to turn his nose up at Hollywood. I'm not saying they should sell out and make huge compromises, merely play the game a little so in the long term they can accumulate more power and hold.

Also, you asked earlier where is this generation's Alien and Predator but some would argue that films such as Pitch Black and Dog Soldiers respectively are the modern equivalent. Of course, you and I may not think that, but remember, we're talking this generation, tastes and markets have changed.

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The weirdest thing about it for me, though, is that the two names I use online are Holly and Juno.  I've gotten so used to being called them, and neither of them are names you hear an awful lot, so it was very odd to hear someone else using them for the whole length of the film.  Especially Juno, I've never come across anyone else with that name.

Wasn't the caseworker in Beetlejuice called Juno?

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So, are there any fairly decent horrors of late then, apart from The Descent? I fucking loved this, and I'm itching for more, but I know a lot of it is utter shit.

i was thinking of this too, i'd love to have another experience similar to that watching The Descent.

I'm not too sure how well it was received generally (the people i went with to see it weren't as enthusiastic as i was) but i thought Wolf Creek was a good horror movie, and certainly had me on edge. If i ever go to Australia it'll take a good deal of convincing to make me venture outside the city.

I can't think of many other recent horrors i enjoyed. There was that British one set in the railway underground, that was ok and would probably be next on the list, but nothing recent really to rival The Descent. Wolf Creek comes nearest though imo. And as you say, a lot horrors are tripe, films like The Descent are gems

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