Jump to content
IGNORED

Arsenal

cubeadvance

By cubeadvance
in Sport

 Share

Recommended Posts

CandyBob

CandyBob

Posted
Posted

While it was a gutting result, I can't see where we can possibly be classed as shit. Before the game started we knew we weren't as good as ManU and Chelsea. Maybe the expectations are too high? I also think the press made a meal of the disparity between the teams. We were awful for their goals, but probably had more chances to score.

Before the season started we were the one's who had been written off for a top four finish and tbh, a lot of the Arsenal fans also seemed to be feeling this way. We are better off than we were at the same stage last season and still in the CL. I can understand Liverpool fans gripping, but we are complaining when we have seen an improvement overall since last season. It just seems all a bit bizarre to me.

It was pretty sad to see people leaving as early as they were as well. But then, I've sat there when we've been playing champagne football, 3-4 goals up, and people around me have been talking about work and what they are having for dinner, with barely a cheer when we score a goal.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Daley

Daley

Posted
Posted
By the way, I've got a contact at Arsenal who spends every day with the players (he's not the chef) and goes to all the games too (or the bus driver) and says that it's a fairly open secret that Cesc is leaving in the summer. Who can blame the kid? The figure quoted there is just about right too. Remember we get utterly bummed when selling to anyone but City.

Is your source reliable?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CandyBob

CandyBob

Posted
Posted
Yeah, people wanting to win things are weird.

That also goes for a fair few other teams in the PL, doesn't mean it'll happen. I was of course talking about the way people have responded to the defeat though by saying we are shit. The current PL table says otherwise.

Realistically you could count the teams that will win the big honours on one hand. Chelsea or ManU for the PL and either of those two or Barca for the CL. Chelsea are taking the FA Cup pretty seriously and so they would have to be big favourites there as they have the squad to be able to do that.

Financial disparity means that we should never be expecting to win anything as things currently stand. If all of the stars align for us and Chelsea and ManU under-perform for a long period of time then maybe, but its unlikely to happen.

I want us to win things but I just think realistically, where we are is about where we should be.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Rev

Rev

Posted
Posted

That's crap. It's constantly about wanting to get to the next stage. Relegation candidates want to play for safety, mid-table want to push for Europe, top-half want to push for the Champions League. Arsenal want to stay where they are because "it's alright, really".

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CandyBob

CandyBob

Posted
Posted
That's crap. It's constantly about wanting to get to the next stage. Relegation candidates want to play for safety, mid-table want to push for Europe, top-half want to push for the Champions League. Arsenal want to stay where they are because "it's alright, really".

I never said they wanted to stand still or that I wanted them to, just that current circumstances dictate thats how things are at the moment. English football is dominated by two teams with everyone else chasing their heels.

With respect to the other PL teams its also a much much tougher job de-throning both ManU and Chelsea from the top.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
hauk

hauk

Posted
Posted

As depressing as losing to Man U was, I really felt like all this 10 match unbeaten run stuff was making us seem much better than we were and this was a reality check. Let’s face it, we haven’t played particularly well since Van Persie got injured. Before he got injured I think we were playing some of the best football we have since Flamini/Hleb left, but since then it’s really been like our performances at the end of last season, but with added Song.

It’s annoying that Wenger is unwilling to bring in replacements for some of the fringe players who don’t seem good enough, like Denilson. I mean I can understand him saying that he can’t find anyone that much better than a fully fit Bendtner (or maybe can’t afford them), but surely there’s a DM out there who’s better than Denilson (Flamini perhaps?).

Having said all that, if you look at some of the players in the past few years who most people thought were shit/ok, only to turn out good (Song, Flamini, Adebayor, Hleb), you can only guess that the same thing may happen with Denilson, Diaby, Walcott etc.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
carlito

carlito

Posted
Posted
There's no money. This £30m "war chest" is a pack of lies. We are fucked for the first 10 years or so of the new stadium, hence why we buy only when absolutely necessary. Just to clarify, we don't have a pot to piss in.

Wenger is paid very well for not spending transfer money.

That's not strictly true. The financial statements are public and we are in pretty healthy shape considering.

I am absolutely certain that we have money to spend on players, but unsurprisingly the players we wanted weren't available.

It's a shame that it panned out that way, but I would rather have the money to invest in the summer than waste it on a player that doesn't fit in.

That said we are going to need to spend big bucks over the summer if we want to be taken seriously. Obviously it is still possible to do it this season, but after this w/e it will be out of our hands.

We need at least a striker and a centre-back to cover in the short term and to replace Gallas in the (slightly) longer term. Also we need to resolve the keeper situation, if Fabianski is good enough then get him in now - let him get used to first team football, if not then we need to get shopping because Almunia is probably the weakest keeper in the top half of the table at the moment.

Another central midfielder wouldn't go a miss. I am happy with Diaby when he plays although he's got a fair bit of learning to do, but he is pretty injury prone for a big lad and once he is out we are desperately short of presence in the midfield.

We can also cut some chaff, there are players who shouldn't ever be in consideration for a first team place. Silvestre is one of these - he should not be an option - I'd rather we promote a youth teamer over him, get Nordveit back and get him blooded maybe. Denilson is another - he has had plenty of opportunity, he has no place in the team, maybe he will blossom into a decent little player but we can't afford to give him the time to do it here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
carlito

carlito

Posted
Posted
Having said all that, if you look at some of the players in the past few years who most people thought were shit/ok, only to turn out good (Song, Flamini, Adebayor, Hleb), you can only guess that the same thing may happen with Denilson, Diaby, Walcott etc.

Diaby has shown how he can add something different with his power and height, not to mention his skill on the ball.

Walcott has pace and there is the hope that his decision making and final ball will improve with more time on the pitch.

Denilson adds nothing and, for me, gives no hint of anything he might add in future.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
hauk

hauk

Posted
Posted
Diaby has shown how he can add something different with his power and height, not to mention his skill on the ball.

Walcott has pace and there is the hope that his decision making and final ball will improve with more time on the pitch.

Denilson adds nothing and, for me, gives no hint of anything he might add in future.

I agree. While both Diaby and Walcott have been plagued by injuries and not had a decent run in the team to establish themselves, Denilson has had plenty of time to prove himself and has come up short time and time again.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BlinkyBear

BlinkyBear

Posted
Posted

There's no way Cesc is definitely off:

He's only going to Barce if he goes, but I don't see how could have signed anything as a guarantee given that there'll be a new President (who will use the signing of Cesc as his ticket to the position) and that Pep might not even be the manager.

That and as much as we always get shafted (Man City aside) on transfers, the Club aren't stupid enough to accept a figure of £xx million, knowing full well that if he has a good season you can easily add £X million on it. Similarly, if he had had a shocker or a monster injury, Barce would want the fee reduced by £x million.

Not saying it won't happen, but there's no way it's already agreed.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
hercules

hercules

Posted
Posted

Diaby has been proving himself all season, i feel he has established himself as a first teamer and a big player and i hope he is back for the chelsea game. A for walcott, given a string of games together he'll easily get back to the player he was before the stoke injury last season, he makes an impact for us even though ppl don't see it. The problem is that he is so fast that he gets hacked constantly without much protection, even denilson is a decent squad player though he shouldn't be starting when most of our squad is fit.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dude Ranch

Dude Ranch

Posted
Posted
A for walcott, given a string of games together he'll easily get back to the player he was before the stoke injury last season, he makes an impact for us even though ppl don't see it. The problem is that he is so fast that he gets hacked constantly without much protection

Hold on. THEO Walcott? The waif who plays for us? He's fucking shit mate, honestly. I always say this.. How many times has he come of the pitch and you've thought he'd had a really, genuinely good 90 minutes? How about none? I don't care if it's him or the system we play, he just doesn't do it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
carlito

carlito

Posted
Posted
Hold on. THEO Walcott? The waif who plays for us? He's fucking shit mate, honestly. I always say this.. How many times has he come of the pitch and you've thought he'd had a really, genuinely good 90 minutes? How about none? I don't care if it's him or the system we play, he just doesn't do it.

The boy deserves time. He came from Saints before he was ready and he's had some pretty bad injuries.

He's had his moments and I would personally like to see him get a really good pre-season in and start 2010/11 running. I think is pretty harsh to judge him before then.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dude Ranch

Dude Ranch

Posted
Posted
Half decent piece on Walcott here on gunnerblog

.

.

You want evidence? I’ll give you evidence.

Four clips. Four individual incidents in a truly forgettable Arsenal career. About a minute of decent play.

At the moment, I’m not sure even a fully fit Walcott would make the best Arsenal XI.

Not sure? He'd be nowhere near it. I'd play Eboue before I played Walcott.

If Wenger believes Walcott will come good, I’m prepared to trust him.

I think we've all fallen for that one. Are we all prepared to give the same grace to Bendtner, Denilson etc.?

I genuinely want him to make it but how long can we wait? We're all fed up of trusting and waiting to see, aren't we?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mop

mop

Posted
Posted

He does make the point that those four clips span his whole time with us...

And yet these make up a handful of moments in what is now four years of Walcott’s Arsenal career.

Perhaps he has hope where he shouldn't but overall I thought it a half decent piece. He makes the point that Walcott hads been pretty shit and dissapionting for us when you take into account all the fuss when we signed him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Use of this website is subject to our Privacy Policy, Terms of Use, and Guidelines.

  I accept